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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 2:18 pm
Post subject: www.mysite.com the same as mysite.com ?
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Suppose you have the domain mysite.com. Do inbound links to
www.mysite.com carry the same value as inbound links to mysite.com ?
(assume you have no subdomains).
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 2:18 pm
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Alfred Molon wrote:
> Suppose you have the domain mysite.com. Do inbound links to
> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.mysite.com" target="_blank">www.mysite.com</a> carry the same value as inbound links to mysite.com ?
> (assume you have no subdomains).
"www" *is* a subdomain.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 2:18 pm
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Alfred Molon wrote:
> Suppose you have the domain mysite.com. Do inbound links to
> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.mysite.com" target="_blank">www.mysite.com</a> carry the same value as inbound links to mysite.com ?
> (assume you have no subdomains).
No - see Toby's reply.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 2:56 pm
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William Tasso wrote:
> Alfred Molon wrote:
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>> Suppose you have the domain mysite.com. Do inbound links to
>> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.mysite.com" target="_blank">www.mysite.com</a> carry the same value as inbound links to mysite.com ?
>> (assume you have no subdomains).
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> No - see Toby's reply.
Surely "www" is a host?
(gets coat)
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 2:57 pm
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Charles Sweeney wrote:
> ...
> Surely "www" is a host?
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> (gets coat)
see you in the pub
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 3:01 pm
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Alfred Molon wrote:
> Suppose you have the domain mysite.com. Do inbound links to
> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.mysite.com" target="_blank">www.mysite.com</a> carry the same value as inbound links to mysite.com ?
> (assume you have no subdomains).
FWIW I think Google counts them seperately.
I have had a page <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.mydomain.com" target="_blank">www.mydomain.com</a> as PR5. Yet mydomain.com had PR0.
I do a redirect to one of them, so all links go there, for consistency as
much as anything else.
Of course their algorithm could have changed 5 minutes ago, so I don't get
a hang-up about it.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 4:09 pm
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In article <pan.2004.10.17.09.40.08.925362.RemoveThis@tobyinkster.co.uk>,
usenet200410.RemoveThis@tobyinkster.co.uk says...
> > Suppose you have the domain mysite.com. Do inbound links to
> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.mysite.com" target="_blank">www.mysite.com</a> carry the same value as inbound links to mysite.com ?
> > (assume you have no subdomains).
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> "www" *is* a subdomain.
That still doesn't answer my question. I have some people linking to
"www.mysite.com" - should I ask them to link to "mysite.com" ?
Is the pagerank of mysite.com higher if the inbound link goes to
"mysite.com" instead of "www.mysite.com" ?
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 4:09 pm
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Alfred Molon wrote:
> In article <pan.2004.10.17.09.40.08.925362 DeleteThis @tobyinkster.co.uk>,
> usenet200410 DeleteThis @tobyinkster.co.uk says...
>> > Suppose you have the domain mysite.com. Do inbound links to
>> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.mysite.com" target="_blank">www.mysite.com</a> carry the same value as inbound links to mysite.com ?
>> > (assume you have no subdomains).
>>
>> "www" *is* a subdomain.
>
> That still doesn't answer my question. I have some people linking to
> "www.mysite.com" - should I ask them to link to "mysite.com" ?
if you like
> Is the pagerank of mysite.com higher if the inbound link goes to
> "mysite.com" instead of "www.mysite.com" ?
pagerank will be higher if they all link to the same page
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 4:09 pm
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William Tasso wrote:
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> pagerank will be higher if they all link to the same page
sorry - that should be URL
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 4:19 pm
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Alfred Molon wrote:
> Is the pagerank of mysite.com higher if the inbound link goes to
> "mysite.com" instead of "www.mysite.com" ?
A link to mysite.com will increase the pagerank of mysite.com.
A link to <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.mysite.com" target="_blank">www.mysite.com</a> will increase the pagerank of <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.mysite.com." target="_blank">www.mysite.com.</a>
A link to foo.mysite.com will increase the pagerank of foo.mysite.com.
A link to lala.mysite.com will increase the pagerank of lala.mysite.com.
Is that hard to understand?
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:25 pm
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In article <pan.2004.10.17.12.19.56.938165.RemoveThis@tobyinkster.co.uk>, Toby
Inkster says...
> A link to mysite.com will increase the pagerank of mysite.com.
>
<font color=purple> > A link to <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.mysite.com" target="_blank">www.mysite.com</a> will increase the pagerank of <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.mysite.com.</font" target="_blank">www.mysite.com.</font</a>>
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> A link to foo.mysite.com will increase the pagerank of foo.mysite.com.
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> A link to lala.mysite.com will increase the pagerank of lala.mysite.com.
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> Is that hard to understand?
That's fine. But what is Google actually indexing - mysite.com or
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.mysite.com" target="_blank">www.mysite.com</a> ?
Is the search engine smart enough to understand that the page at
mysite.com/page.html is the same as the page at
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.mysite.com/page.html?" target="_blank">www.mysite.com/page.html?</a> Or do you have to place a 301 redirect into
your .htaccess ?
Should I tell the people who are linking to mysite.com to please all
link to mysite.com (and not <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.mysite.com" target="_blank">www.mysite.com</a>) ?
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 7:25 pm
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Hi Alfred -
On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 16:25:47 +0200, Alfred Molon
<alfred_molon RemoveThis @yahoo.comDELETE> wrote:
>Is the search engine smart enough to understand that the page at
>mysite.com/page.html is the same as the page at
>www.mysite.com/page.html?
A search engine which "understood" that would be a dumb search engine
because mysite.com/page.html and <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.mysite.com/page.html" target="_blank">www.mysite.com/page.html</a> aren't
necessarily the same page.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:07 pm
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Alfred Molon wrote:
> Should I tell the people who are linking to mysite.com to please all
> link to mysite.com (and not <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.mysite.com" target="_blank">www.mysite.com</a>) ?
You don't need to, just redirect to the preferred one.
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 8:53 pm
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Alfred Molon wrote:
> Is the search engine smart enough to understand that the page at
<font color=purple> > mysite.com/page.html is the same as the page at <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.mysite.com/page.html?</font" target="_blank">www.mysite.com/page.html?</font</a>>
Are they the same? They might be. They might not.
Just like foo.mysite.com might be the same as lala.mysite.com. But they might
not.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sun Oct 17, 2004 10:31 pm
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Alfred Molon wrote:
> Suppose you have the domain mysite.com. Do inbound links to
> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.mysite.com" target="_blank">www.mysite.com</a> carry the same value as inbound links to mysite.com ?
> (assume you have no subdomains).
They both have a value of 42.
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