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Talal Itani

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:59 am
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Hello,

I use Web Page Maker software to build my website. I love this product, it
works great, yet I feel I need something more powerful, especially regarding
tables. Can you please tell me what you recommend. Thanks.

T.I.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:59 am
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Talal Itani wrote:
> I use Web Page Maker software to build my website. I love this
> product, it works great, yet I feel I need something more powerful,
> especially regarding tables. Can you please tell me what you
> recommend.

Learn to code by hand. The are a number of good text editors that you
can use. I like UltraEdit.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:59 am
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> Learn to code by hand. The are a number of good text editors that you
> can use. I like UltraEdit.

I'm going to throw a good word in for the Crimson Editor.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:59 am
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On Nov 2, 2:31 am, Phil Payne <p....RemoveThis@isham-research.co.uk> wrote:
> > Learn to code by hand. The are a number of good text editors that you
> > can use. I like UltraEdit.
>
> I'm going to throw a good word in for the Crimson Editor.

Yes, I agree Crimson editor is good.
But for WYSIWYG editors, go for KompoZer, http://kompozer.net
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 11:59 am
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On Nov 2, 3:26 am, "Brian Cryer" <brian.cr... DeleteThis @127.0.0.1.ntlworld.com>
wrote:
> "Talal Itani" <tit... DeleteThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:JBlWi.2591$TO4.2429@trnddc07...
>
> > Hello,
>
> > I use Web Page Maker software to build my website. I love this product,
> > it works great, yet I feel I need something more powerful, especially
> > regarding tables. Can you please tell me what you recommend. Thanks.
>
> I've not personally come across Web Page Maker, so don't know what its
> strengths and weaknesses are. NVU seems popular (free), I use Expression Web
> (Micro$oft), both are wysiwyg tools. To be honest a lot depends on your
> budget and how much time you are willing to invest to learn a new product.
NVU is no longer in development. Kompozer is the new version.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:55 pm
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"Scott Bryce" <sbryce RemoveThis @scottbryce.com> wrote in message
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> Talal Itani wrote:
>> I use Web Page Maker software to build my website. I love this
>> product, it works great, yet I feel I need something more powerful,
>> especially regarding tables. Can you please tell me what you
>> recommend.
>
> Learn to code by hand. The are a number of good text editors that you can
> use. I like UltraEdit.
>

Agreed! Coding by hand gives you full power over everything instead of being
at the mercy of whatever assumptions were made by the software designer for
Web Page Maker (or whatever).

I've used a variety of tools and am currently using Html-Kit, which I'm
finding quite satisfactory. I'm especially enjoying the ability to
modularize things with the includeHTML plugin which gives me an HTML
preprocessor.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:59 pm
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"Talal Itani" <titani DeleteThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I use Web Page Maker software to build my website. I love this product,
> it works great, yet I feel I need something more powerful, especially
> regarding tables. Can you please tell me what you recommend. Thanks.

I've not personally come across Web Page Maker, so don't know what its
strengths and weaknesses are. NVU seems popular (free), I use Expression Web
(Micro$oft), both are wysiwyg tools. To be honest a lot depends on your
budget and how much time you are willing to invest to learn a new product.
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 3:59 pm
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"rhino" <No.offline.contact.please DeleteThis @anonymous.com> wrote:

>
>"Scott Bryce" <sbryce DeleteThis @scottbryce.com> wrote in message
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>> Talal Itani wrote:
>>> I use Web Page Maker software to build my website. I love this
>>> product, it works great, yet I feel I need something more powerful,
>>> especially regarding tables. Can you please tell me what you
>>> recommend.
>>
>> Learn to code by hand. The are a number of good text editors that you can
>> use. I like UltraEdit.
>>
>
>Agreed! Coding by hand gives you full power over everything instead of being
>at the mercy of whatever assumptions were made by the software designer for
>Web Page Maker (or whatever).

I'll third that. Code by hand. I have never in over ten years found a
WYSIWYG editor that was any good.

X
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:40 pm
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"Talal Itani" <titani.RemoveThis@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Hello,
>
> I use Web Page Maker software to build my website. I love this product,
> it works great, yet I feel I need something more powerful, especially
> regarding tables. Can you please tell me what you recommend. Thanks.
>
> T.I.
>

flame me all you like but I use Dreamweaver cs3. I can keep tight control
over the code and it has lots of neat little features. Just stay away from
the absolute positioning feature in wysywg mode!

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Chaddy2222

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 10:12 am
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On Nov 2, 6:40 am, "paul watt" <p... RemoveThis @NOSPAMpaulwatt.info> wrote:
> "Talal Itani" <tit... RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:JBlWi.2591$TO4.2429@trnddc07...
>
> > Hello,
>
> > I use Web Page Maker software to build my website. I love this product,
> > it works great, yet I feel I need something more powerful, especially
> > regarding tables. Can you please tell me what you recommend. Thanks.
>
> > T.I.
>
> flame me all you like but I use Dreamweaver cs3. I can keep tight control
> over the code and it has lots of neat little features. Just stay away from
> the absolute positioning feature in wysywg mode!
>
Yes, KompoZer is the same. I have the HandCoder extention for it so I
can launch Crimson editor if I need to do some sirious code editing.
It does work ok in WYSIWYG though if you know what your doing!.
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1001 Webs

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:05 pm
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On Nov 1, 8:40 pm, "paul watt" <p... RemoveThis @NOSPAMpaulwatt.info> wrote:
> "Talal Itani" <tit... RemoveThis @verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> news:JBlWi.2591$TO4.2429@trnddc07...
>
> > Hello,
>
> > I use Web Page Maker software to build my website. I love this product,
> > it works great, yet I feel I need something more powerful, especially
> > regarding tables. Can you please tell me what you recommend. Thanks.
>
> > T.I.
>
> flame me all you like but I use Dreamweaver cs3. I can keep tight control
> over the code and it has lots of neat little features. Just stay away from
> the absolute positioning feature in wysywg mode!

I do use Dreamweaver as well, but just for preliminary sketches and to
make Templates that I might change later.
And for checking for broken links sitewide because it does have the
ability to batch redirect them and to take you to the offending source
by just clicking on the error.

But I agree with the rest that a good text editor is the best tool you
can use.
I use TextWrangler for Mac and Notepad++ for Windows.
Any suggestions for Linux.?
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Nov 02, 2007 9:05 pm
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1001 Webs scribed:

>On Nov 1, 8:40 pm, "paul watt" <p....TakeThisOut@NOSPAMpaulwatt.info> wrote:
>> "Talal Itani" <tit....TakeThisOut@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
>> news:JBlWi.2591$TO4.2429@trnddc07...
>>
>> > Hello,
>>
>> > I use Web Page Maker software to build my website. I love this product,
>> > it works great, yet I feel I need something more powerful, especially
>> > regarding tables. Can you please tell me what you recommend. Thanks.
>>
>> > T.I.
>>
>> flame me all you like but I use Dreamweaver cs3. I can keep tight control
>> over the code and it has lots of neat little features. Just stay away from
>> the absolute positioning feature in wysywg mode!
>
>I do use Dreamweaver as well, but just for preliminary sketches and to
>make Templates that I might change later.
>And for checking for broken links sitewide because it does have the
>ability to batch redirect them and to take you to the offending source
>by just clicking on the error.
>
>But I agree with the rest that a good text editor is the best tool you
>can use.
>I use TextWrangler for Mac and Notepad++ for Windows.
>Any suggestions for Linux.?

A good text editor, but one with syntax coloring.

I've tried many of the editors available. I keep coming back to HomeSite 5 +
TopStyle.
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 11:10 am
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On 2007-11-02, 1001 Webs wrote:
....
> But I agree with the rest that a good text editor is the best tool you
> can use.
> I use TextWrangler for Mac and Notepad++ for Windows.
> Any suggestions for Linux.?

There are many. My preference is emacs.


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Talal Itani

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:43 pm
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You are right. Hand coding is the best route, yet I am not a professional
web designer. I cannot invest the time and resources in order to become
good at HTML coding. I am willing to sacrifice the power of hand-coding,
for the ease of WYSIWYG. I will try the tools you recommended.






"Ed Jay" <edMbj.DeleteThis@aes-intl.com> wrote in message
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> 1001 Webs scribed:
>
>>On Nov 1, 8:40 pm, "paul watt" <p....DeleteThis@NOSPAMpaulwatt.info> wrote:
>>> "Talal Itani" <tit....DeleteThis@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>
>>> news:JBlWi.2591$TO4.2429@trnddc07...
>>>
>>> > Hello,
>>>
>>> > I use Web Page Maker software to build my website. I love this
>>> > product,
>>> > it works great, yet I feel I need something more powerful, especially
>>> > regarding tables. Can you please tell me what you recommend. Thanks.
>>>
>>> > T.I.
>>>
>>> flame me all you like but I use Dreamweaver cs3. I can keep tight
>>> control
>>> over the code and it has lots of neat little features. Just stay away
>>> from
>>> the absolute positioning feature in wysywg mode!
>>
>>I do use Dreamweaver as well, but just for preliminary sketches and to
>>make Templates that I might change later.
>>And for checking for broken links sitewide because it does have the
>>ability to batch redirect them and to take you to the offending source
>>by just clicking on the error.
>>
>>But I agree with the rest that a good text editor is the best tool you
>>can use.
>>I use TextWrangler for Mac and Notepad++ for Windows.
>>Any suggestions for Linux.?
>
> A good text editor, but one with syntax coloring.
>
> I've tried many of the editors available. I keep coming back to HomeSite 5
> +
> TopStyle.
> --
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Nov 20, 2007 9:24 am
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> There are many. My preference is emacs.

VI is my friend Smile
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