Need web designer

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> Charles Sweeney <me DeleteThis @charlessweeney.com> wrote in
> news:Xns981CC41598874mecharlessweeneycom@130.133.1.4:
>
>
>> At least he/she is prepared to offer something, unlike many who are
>> always wanting something for nothing! A good opportunity for someone
>> starting out, add to their portfolio.
>>
>
> My personal favorites are on Craigslist where people are looking for
> someone to make a site for them and the compensation offer is a "split
> of the profits".
>
> One of my favorite pasttimes is replying to those posts with the
> following: "Hey, I saw your ad on craigslist and I am very interested.
> Please forward me your 5 year business plan, marketing strategy, and
> an outline on how much of your time and money will be devoted to
> ensuring this project's success"
>
> I've not yet gotten one response.

LOL, I get those, too, where someone comes to me with *really* heavy
CGI/DB needs and they don't want to pony up the cash to get it done. On
the *very* rare items where I've said "sure, we can enter a partnership
where I will have a voting say in how the business is run, since I have a
lot more experience in this online stuff than you", most of em have run
away.

One of em, I know own 100% (CanadianISP) and another one (adult toys
site) I did it more for the silly perverted fun of it than out of any
expectation of seeing real profits

The whole 'adding to your portfolio bit' - I dunno - Mind you, that's
easy for me to say, since my work can be objectively measured, rather
than subjectively, but if it were my business, I don't think I'd want to
be risking the whole public face of it on someone who's never done it
before :/

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Marc Bissonnette
Looking for a new ISP? http://www.canadianisp.com
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webmaster <omanis.TakeThisOut@net.hr> stumbled into news:alt.www.webmaster
and said:

> Hello,

How do you do?

> I'm working on one website that have some basic design but I will need
> designer that will
> design better looking web page.

Do you mean dsigner as in graphic design? Probably best to be specific.

> For your design services I will give
> you Unlimited Linux
> hosting for one year and 50$ advertise coupon for Google adwords.

That's not really a tempting offer is it? Any established designer worth
their salt will already have hosting sorted, so your offer amounts to a 50
bucks coupon. Not sure how quality much work you'd expect to get from a
designer for that.

In any event, good luck.
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> Fleeing from the madness of the http://groups.google.com jungle
> webmaster <omanis.TakeThisOut@net.hr> stumbled into news:alt.www.webmaster
> and said:
>
>> Hello,
>
> How do you do?
>
>> I'm working on one website that have some basic design but I will
>> need designer that will
>> design better looking web page.
>
> Do you mean dsigner as in graphic design? Probably best to be
> specific.
>
>> For your design services I will give
>> you Unlimited Linux
>> hosting for one year and 50$ advertise coupon for Google adwords.
>
> That's not really a tempting offer is it? Any established designer
> worth their salt will already have hosting sorted, so your offer
> amounts to a 50 bucks coupon. Not sure how quality much work you'd
> expect to get from a designer for that.
>
> In any event, good luck.

Wow, I missed that - Perfectly good opportunity to heap scorn on a silly
offer - missed! For shame on me! Must be the Friday thing, yeah, that's
it...

To the OP:

You get what you pay for. If your "unlimited Linux hosting" is sitting
somewhere on a T1 or lower - no offence, but big deal. (Same applies if
it's bandwidth-capped). What storage space are you offering ? Your Linux
hosting - is it root access or just a virtual host ? (Trust me, I'm not
offering - I'm no designer). As William said, though, 99.9% of designers
out there already have their own hosting figured out, so what you're
asking for is an overall site design for $50.

Last time I paid a designer $50, I got a few custom buttons and their
mouse-over states for it. Money well spent, IMO. For the whole site ? On
fifty dollars ? As William said: Good luck (May I add: You'll need it)


--
Marc Bissonnette
Looking for a new ISP? http://www.canadianisp.com
Largest ISP comparison site across Canada.
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Marc Bissonnette wrote

> "William Tasso" <SpamBlocked.RemoveThis@tbdata.com> altered the spacetime fabric
by
> disgorging news:op.td4ol2zmm9g4qz-wnt@tbdata.com:
>
>> Fleeing from the madness of the http://groups.google.com jungle
>> webmaster <omanis.RemoveThis@net.hr> stumbled into news:alt.www.webmaster
>> and said:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>
>> How do you do?
>>
>>> I'm working on one website that have some basic design but I will
>>> need designer that will
>>> design better looking web page.
>>
>> Do you mean dsigner as in graphic design? Probably best to be
>> specific.
>>
>>> For your design services I will give
>>> you Unlimited Linux
>>> hosting for one year and 50$ advertise coupon for Google adwords.
>>
>> That's not really a tempting offer is it? Any established designer
>> worth their salt will already have hosting sorted, so your offer
>> amounts to a 50 bucks coupon. Not sure how quality much work you'd
>> expect to get from a designer for that.
>>
>> In any event, good luck.
>
> Wow, I missed that - Perfectly good opportunity to heap scorn on a
silly
> offer - missed! For shame on me! Must be the Friday thing, yeah,
that's
> it...
>
> To the OP:
>
> You get what you pay for. If your "unlimited Linux hosting" is sitting
> somewhere on a T1 or lower - no offence, but big deal. (Same applies
if
> it's bandwidth-capped). What storage space are you offering ? Your
Linux
> hosting - is it root access or just a virtual host ? (Trust me, I'm
not
> offering - I'm no designer). As William said, though, 99.9% of
designers
> out there already have their own hosting figured out, so what you're
> asking for is an overall site design for $50.
>
> Last time I paid a designer $50, I got a few custom buttons and their
> mouse-over states for it. Money well spent, IMO. For the whole site ?
On
> fifty dollars ? As William said: Good luck (May I add: You'll need it)

At least he/she is prepared to offer something, unlike many who are
always wanting something for nothing! A good opportunity for someone
starting out, add to their portfolio.

--
Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com
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Karl Groves wrote

> Charles Sweeney <me.RemoveThis@charlessweeney.com> wrote in
> news:Xns981CC41598874mecharlessweeneycom@130.133.1.4:
>
>
>> At least he/she is prepared to offer something, unlike many who are
>> always wanting something for nothing! A good opportunity for someone
>> starting out, add to their portfolio.
>>
>
> My personal favorites are on Craigslist where people are looking for
> someone to make a site for them and the compensation offer is a "split
> of the profits".
>
> One of my favorite pasttimes is replying to those posts with the
> following: "Hey, I saw your ad on craigslist and I am very interested.
> Please forward me your 5 year business plan, marketing strategy, and
> an outline on how much of your time and money will be devoted to
> ensuring this project's success"
>
> I've not yet gotten one response.

LOL!

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http://CharlesSweeney.com
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"Karl Groves"

| > At least he/she is prepared to offer something, unlike many who are
| > always wanting something for nothing! A good opportunity for someone
| > starting out, add to their portfolio.
| >
|
| My personal favorites are on Craigslist where people are looking for
| someone to make a site for them and the compensation offer is a "split of
| the profits".
|

The graphic artists have a site to deal with that sort of abuse.
www.no-spec.com
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"Marc Bissonnette" <dragnet\_@_/internalysis.com> wrote in message
news:Xns981C9547D8292dragnetinternalysisc@216.196.97.131...
| Karl Groves <karl DeleteThis @NOSPAMkarlcore.com> altered the spacetime fabric by
| disgorging news:Xns981C930AA2729karlkarlcorecom@216.196.97.136:
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| > Charles Sweeney <me DeleteThis @charlessweeney.com> wrote in
| > news:Xns981CC41598874mecharlessweeneycom@130.133.1.4:
| >
| >
| >> At least he/she is prepared to offer something, unlike many who are
| >> always wanting something for nothing! A good opportunity for someone
| >> starting out, add to their portfolio.
| >>
| >
| > My personal favorites are on Craigslist where people are looking for
| > someone to make a site for them and the compensation offer is a "split
| > of the profits".
| >
| > One of my favorite pasttimes is replying to those posts with the
| > following: "Hey, I saw your ad on craigslist and I am very interested.
| > Please forward me your 5 year business plan, marketing strategy, and
| > an outline on how much of your time and money will be devoted to
| > ensuring this project's success"
| >
| > I've not yet gotten one response.
|
| LOL, I get those, too, where someone comes to me with *really* heavy
| CGI/DB needs and they don't want to pony up the cash to get it done. On
| the *very* rare items where I've said "sure, we can enter a partnership
| where I will have a voting say in how the business is run, since I have a
| lot more experience in this online stuff than you", most of em have run
| away.
|
| One of em, I know own 100% (CanadianISP) and another one (adult toys
| site) I did it more for the silly perverted fun of it than out of any
| expectation of seeing real profits
|
| The whole 'adding to your portfolio bit' - I dunno - Mind you, that's
| easy for me to say, since my work can be objectively measured, rather
| than subjectively, but if it were my business, I don't think I'd want to
| be risking the whole public face of it on someone who's never done it
| before :/

The phrase 'adding to the portfolio' is a key word for 'we'll still love you
in the morning'

Our studio has blanket policy only those worthy causes that receive our cash
donation can qualify for pro-bono work product.

One of the requirements is the submission of a hard copy presentation with
supporting information such as a copy of the 501C3 certification from the
IRS. Stops 99.9% of the B* cold.
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