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none62

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:35 pm
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Hello

I want to make a web site in several languages. Do you suggest any
free web services which do online translations between English and
other languages. Is that translation reliable enough?


Thanks a lot

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 1:35 pm
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"Raguseo" <none DeleteThis @none.com> wrote in message
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 > Hello
 >
 > I want to make a web site in several languages. Do you suggest any
 > free web services which do online translations between English and
 > other languages. Is that translation reliable enough?

It'll depend on the goal of your site... if its just a little personal thing
you are putting up or a fan page where you want to say how great you think
__________ is, then a free translation service should be good enough.

If its a commercial site where you are selling something or trying to
provide a service that they would pay for then no... you would run the risk
of your site looking like a joke (have you read an of the machine translated
to english manuals from china and japan?) or possibly even offending the
reader.

If it is a commercial site you can also look at it like this: Is the added
feature/benefit of your site being available in other languages going to
generate enough revenue to atleast cover the cost of the translation? If
"yes" then obviously go for it and pay to have it done professionally... if
the answer is "no" then its just a waste of money.

If its a cost thing (IE: you don't have enough money to pay for having the
site translated right now) then just hold off and wait until the time comes
when you can afford it.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 3:18 pm
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On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:09:13 +0100, Raguseo <none.RemoveThis@none.com> wrote:

 > Hello
 >
 > I want to make a web site in several languages. Do you suggest any
 > free web services which do online translations between English and
 > other languages. Is that translation reliable enough?

Free web translators are "ok" but if you want to look atall profesional in
the other language get a human fluent in the language and familiar with
the business you're in to do it.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Dec 16, 2004 5:35 pm
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Neal wrote:

 > On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 18:09:13 +0100, Raguseo <none DeleteThis @none.com> wrote:
 >
  >> Hello
  >>
  >> I want to make a web site in several languages. Do you suggest any
  >> free web services which do online translations between English and
  >> other languages. Is that translation reliable enough?
 >
 >
 > Free web translators are "ok" but if you want to look atall profesional
 > in the other language get a human fluent in the language and familiar
 > with the business you're in to do it.

Agreed 100%

Same holds especially true for print advertising. One of our clients
just did a brochure that they translated to French. A human in the
industry that was fluent in French did the translation. Then a French
man who could speak enough English to get the point across made about 20
corrections on an 8 panel brochure.

Point? (Dunno, do I have one?)

Get as many people as you can to read through and suggest fixes... and a
tip to you:

Don't say "it'll save you dough" when you mean money when creating a
piece that is to be translated to another language! Wink

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 3:35 am
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Once upon a time, far far away, the king summoned Raguseo
<none.RemoveThis@none.com> who replied:

 >Hello
 >
 >I want to make a web site in several languages. Do you suggest any
 >free web services which do online translations between English and
 >other languages. Is that translation reliable enough?

You get what you pay for, obviously. That said, we use
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.freetranslation.com" target="_blank">www.freetranslation.com</a> and have not had any complaints from readers.

Matt

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 5:35 am
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Matt Probert wrote:
 > Once upon a time, far far away, the king summoned Raguseo
 > <none.TakeThisOut@none.com> who replied:
 >
 >
  >>Hello
  >>
  >>I want to make a web site in several languages. Do you suggest any
  >>free web services which do online translations between English and
  >>other languages. Is that translation reliable enough?
 >
 >
 > You get what you pay for, obviously. That said, we use
 > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.freetranslation.com" target="_blank">www.freetranslation.com</a> and have not had any complaints from readers.
 >
 > Matt

Perhaps because they can't read your complaints form? Smile

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:35 am
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SpaceGirl wrote:

[Free translation services]
 > Perhaps because they can't read your complaints form? Smile

Either that or they're laughing so hard that they can't use their
keyboards due to shaking Smile

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 6:35 pm
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Raguseo none.DeleteThis@none.com wrote:
 > Hello
 >
 > I want to make a web site in several languages. Do you suggest any
 > free web services which do online translations between English and
 > other languages. Is that translation reliable enough?
 >

No.

In addition the online translation services are available to the visitor
anyway. Far easier to just put a link to one of the online translation
services. Then it will be clear that any deficiencies are down to the
online translation service and not your site.

Better still get a proper set of translations made. It's probably a lot
cheaper than you think.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Dec 18, 2004 10:35 am
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Raguseo wrote:
 > Hello
 >
 > I want to make a web site in several languages. Do you suggest any
 > free web services which do online translations between English and
 > other languages. Is that translation reliable enough?
 >
 >
No.

For reliable translations that will help you sell your products instead
of make potential customers laugh you need a professional translator
with very good experience in your industry. Also, if you want a French
translation you need a French translator (i.e. living in France and with
French as mother tongue).

Finding the right supplier of translation services is very difficult
because anybody can say: "hey look I am a translator!". Even if he/she
has never studied translation, etc.

We had a hard time finding a good supplier. We finally found
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.technospeak.com" target="_blank">www.technospeak.com</a> and are happy with them.

Cheers<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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