The thing about my old domain

"Fat Sam" <janetandsam.TakeThisOut@btbroadband.com> wrote in message
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 > I contacted the hosts, Cyberwurks, and they were very helpfull.....They
gave
 > the guy 24 hours to remove my address from the page, and mine and my wifes
 > names from the meta content......
 > He didn't comply, so they took action by removing the offending page
 > completely......
 >
 > I must say, I'm very impressed by how they dealt with this matter, and
their
 > support guy was most friendly and helpfull......


Cool... that is good to know ...
some decent people left... I was surprised that someone who does this sort
of work uses a reputable host!

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"Charles Sweeney" <me.TakeThisOut@charlessweeney.com> wrote in message
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 > Fat Sam wrote:
 >
  > > I contacted the hosts, Cyberwurks, and they were very
  > > helpfull.....They gave the guy 24 hours to remove my address from the
  > > page, and mine and my wifes names from the meta content......
  > > He didn't comply, so they took action by removing the offending page
  > > completely......
  > >
  > > I must say, I'm very impressed by how they dealt with this matter, and
  > > their support guy was most friendly and helpfull......
 >
 > Did he just take your word for it Sam, or did you fax him proof of your
 > address/identity?
 >
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"Charles Sweeney" <me DeleteThis @charlessweeney.com> wrote in message
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 > Fat Sam wrote:
 >
  > > I contacted the hosts, Cyberwurks, and they were very
  > > helpfull.....They gave the guy 24 hours to remove my address from the
  > > page, and mine and my wifes names from the meta content......
  > > He didn't comply, so they took action by removing the offending page
  > > completely......
  > >
  > > I must say, I'm very impressed by how they dealt with this matter, and
  > > their support guy was most friendly and helpfull......
 >
 > Did he just take your word for it Sam, or did you fax him proof of your
 > address/identity?

Thats not always necessary.
For example, the host might know for sure that the other person is not this
person
(if you see what I mean)


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"Charles Sweeney" <me.RemoveThis@charlessweeney.com> wrote in message
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 > Fat Sam wrote:
 >
  > > I contacted the hosts, Cyberwurks, and they were very
  > > helpfull.....They gave the guy 24 hours to remove my address from the
  > > page, and mine and my wifes names from the meta content......
  > > He didn't comply, so they took action by removing the offending page
  > > completely......
  > >
  > > I must say, I'm very impressed by how they dealt with this matter, and
  > > their support guy was most friendly and helpfull......
 >
 > Did he just take your word for it Sam, or did you fax him proof of your
 > address/identity?

He didn't ask for it.....I suppose he might have checked the archives that
the new webmaster copied and pasted the old page from, and seen that the
current page was a piss poor paste from it, with the address
in-tact.....Then I guess it wouldn't have taken a great leap to check with
nominet and tie this up with the address that the domain had previously been
owned at, then compare that to the name and address where it's now
owned......

Besides, I think he was happy enough to do it simply because the nature of
the links contravened the companies terms and conditions......

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Gordon Hudson wrote:

 > "Charles Sweeney" <me.DeleteThis@charlessweeney.com> wrote in message
 > news:Xns950A935D72A30mecharlessweeneycom@130.133.1.4...
  >> Fat Sam wrote:
  >>
   >> > I contacted the hosts, Cyberwurks, and they were very
   >> > helpfull.....They gave the guy 24 hours to remove my address from
   >> > the page, and mine and my wifes names from the meta content......
   >> > He didn't comply, so they took action by removing the offending
   >> > page completely......
   >> >
   >> > I must say, I'm very impressed by how they dealt with this matter,
   >> > and their support guy was most friendly and helpfull......
  >>
  >> Did he just take your word for it Sam, or did you fax him proof of
  >> your address/identity?
 >
 > Thats not always necessary.
 > For example, the host might know for sure that the other person is not
 > this person
 > (if you see what I mean)

Not sure I do Gordon.

I was a host for a year. I would never enter into any disputes (only
got two I think) I told them I would only act on a Court Order.

Which is how it should be.

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On 16 Jun 2004 19:05:33 GMT, Charles Sweeney <me.DeleteThis@charlessweeney.com> found
these unused words floating about:

 >Gordon Hudson wrote:
 >
  >> "Charles Sweeney" <me.DeleteThis@charlessweeney.com> wrote in message
  >> news:Xns950A935D72A30mecharlessweeneycom@130.133.1.4...
   >>> Fat Sam wrote:
   >>>
   >>> > I contacted the hosts, Cyberwurks, and they were very
   >>> > helpfull.....They gave the guy 24 hours to remove my address from
   >>> > the page, and mine and my wifes names from the meta content......
   >>> > He didn't comply, so they took action by removing the offending
   >>> > page completely......
   >>> >
   >>> > I must say, I'm very impressed by how they dealt with this matter,
   >>> > and their support guy was most friendly and helpfull......
   >>>
   >>> Did he just take your word for it Sam, or did you fax him proof of
   >>> your address/identity?
  >>
  >> Thats not always necessary.
  >> For example, the host might know for sure that the other person is not
  >> this person
  >> (if you see what I mean)
 >
 >Not sure I do Gordon.
 >
 >I was a host for a year. I would never enter into any disputes (only
 >got two I think) I told them I would only act on a Court Order.
 >
 >Which is how it should be.

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"Gerry White" <ultradevusegrp.DeleteThis@dergal.com (no spam)> wrote in message
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 >
 > "Fat Sam" <janetandsam.DeleteThis@btbroadband.com> wrote in message
 > news:2jav0cFuc61uU1@uni-berlin.de...
  > > I contacted the hosts, Cyberwurks, and they were very helpfull.....They
 > gave
  > > the guy 24 hours to remove my address from the page, and mine and my
wifes
  > > names from the meta content......
  > > He didn't comply, so they took action by removing the offending page
  > > completely......
  > >
  > > I must say, I'm very impressed by how they dealt with this matter, and
 > their
  > > support guy was most friendly and helpfull......
 >
 >
 > Cool... that is good to know ...
 > some decent people left... I was surprised that someone who does this sort
 > of work uses a reputable host!

I don't think it was someone who does this as a line of work.....
I have very good reasons to suspect it was someone I used to work for,
trying to damage my reputation......
The guy who owned the website I used to maintain. Not mentioning any names,
but it can be easily found by checking the signatures on my posts around 4
or 5 months ago.....
Anyway, he's started a campaign of signing us up for all manner of
spam......He makes nuissance phone calls, normally witholding his number (he
forgot to do this once so we know he's doing it).....Makes bogus orders for
massively huge values, obviously in the deluded beleif that we get charged
by our merchant bank for failed transactions......
The fact that I branched off and set up my own venture is still eating him
up inside, and he's resorting to some very childish measures, including
sending me an invoice recently for some trumped up services valued at
£1600.....Strangely enough, he got an invoice by return post for £1600 worth
of webmastering services, hosted links, and out-of-hours work.....
I honestly never expected him to go to the trouble and expense of
registering a domain and paying for hosting though......

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On Wed, 16 Jun 2004 21:58:57 +0100, "Fat Sam"
<janetandsam.RemoveThis@btbroadband.com> wrote:

 >Anyway, he's started a campaign of signing us up for all manner of
 >spam......He makes nuissance phone calls, normally witholding his number (he
 >forgot to do this once so we know he's doing it).....Makes bogus orders for
 >massively huge values, obviously in the deluded beleif that we get charged
 >by our merchant bank for failed transactions......

You might want to report him to the police and/or have a lawyer write
him a "cease and desist" letter. People like that who keep escalating
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J. A. Mc. wrote:

 > On 16 Jun 2004 19:05:33 GMT, Charles Sweeney <me RemoveThis @charlessweeney.com>
 > found these unused words floating about:
 >
  >>Gordon Hudson wrote:
   >>> Thats not always necessary.
   >>> For example, the host might know for sure that the other person is
   >>> not this person
   >>> (if you see what I mean)
  >>
  >>Not sure I do Gordon.
  >>
  >>I was a host for a year. I would never enter into any disputes (only
  >>got two I think) I told them I would only act on a Court Order.
  >>
  >>Which is how it should be.
 >
 > Then your TOS was 'window dressing', eh?

Certainly not.

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"Gordon Hudson" <gordon.DeleteThis@usenet.hostroute.co.uk> wrote in message
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 >
 > "Charles Sweeney" <me.DeleteThis@charlessweeney.com> wrote in message
 > news:Xns950A935D72A30mecharlessweeneycom@130.133.1.4...
  > > Fat Sam wrote:
  > >
   > > > I contacted the hosts, Cyberwurks, and they were very
   > > > helpfull.....They gave the guy 24 hours to remove my address from the
   > > > page, and mine and my wifes names from the meta content......
   > > > He didn't comply, so they took action by removing the offending page
   > > > completely......
   > > >
   > > > I must say, I'm very impressed by how they dealt with this matter, and
   > > > their support guy was most friendly and helpfull......
  > >
  > > Did he just take your word for it Sam, or did you fax him proof of your
  > > address/identity?
 >
 > Thats not always necessary.
 > For example, the host might know for sure that the other person is not this
 > person
 > (if you see what I mean)
 >
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On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 05:31:25 +1200, "Bill Logan" <who RemoveThis @what.com> found these
unused words floating about:

 >
 >"Gordon Hudson" <gordon RemoveThis @usenet.hostroute.co.uk> wrote in message
 >news:40d06ed9$0$58821$5a6aecb4@news.aaisp.net.uk...
  >>
  >> "Charles Sweeney" <me RemoveThis @charlessweeney.com> wrote in message
  >> news:Xns950A935D72A30mecharlessweeneycom@130.133.1.4...
   >> > Fat Sam wrote:
   >> >
   >> > > I contacted the hosts, Cyberwurks, and they were very
   >> > > helpfull.....They gave the guy 24 hours to remove my address from the
   >> > > page, and mine and my wifes names from the meta content......
   >> > > He didn't comply, so they took action by removing the offending page
   >> > > completely......
   >> > >
   >> > > I must say, I'm very impressed by how they dealt with this matter, and
   >> > > their support guy was most friendly and helpfull......
   >> >
   >> > Did he just take your word for it Sam, or did you fax him proof of your
   >> > address/identity?
  >>
  >> Thats not always necessary.
  >> For example, the host might know for sure that the other person is not this
  >> person
  >> (if you see what I mean)
  >>
 >That doesn't always matter - it is not illegal to use any name you want.
 >
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J. A. Mc. wrote:

 > On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 05:31:25 +1200, "Bill Logan" <who.TakeThisOut@what.com> found
 > these unused words floating about:
  >>That doesn't always matter - it is not illegal to use any name you
  >>want.
  >>
 > It is, IF you can show it was done to mislead ... !

So you're a lawyer now?

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On 16 Jun 2004 22:30:10 GMT, Charles Sweeney <me.TakeThisOut@charlessweeney.com> found
these unused words floating about:

 >J. A. Mc. wrote:
 >
  >> On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 05:31:25 +1200, "Bill Logan" <who.TakeThisOut@what.com> found
  >> these unused words floating about:
   >>>That doesn't always matter - it is not illegal to use any name you
   >>>want.
   >>>
  >> It is, IF you can show it was done to mislead ... !
 >
 >So you're a lawyer now?

Don't have to be bar certified to understand basic principles (well for
-most- of us). A quick look into most states statutes will find the
appropriate section.

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