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Since: Dec 21, 2003
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 3:20 am
Post subject: Any suggestions for my site?
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Hi All.
Hope you all had a Christmas and are looking forward to your hangovers to
come.
I built a 'hobby' site a while ago and have decided to give it a bit of a
holiday spring clean.
www.directoryofbath.co.uk
If you would be so kind, do you mind having a look from a 'users' point of
view.
I know there are a few validation issues, eg, how do you pass a query
without using post data which search engines can't follow? (and a few minor
font tag and table layout legacy issues which I should hopefully have sorted
soon.)
I think I've got all cookies removed now, but a check would be usefull and
probably a gramma/spelling check as well.
Just wanna see what you all think as well really.
Cheers
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 3:53 am
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"Si" <simon.DeleteThis@MY_PANTSnetforma.com> wrote in message
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> Hope you all had a Christmas
Christmas to you too Si!
From your post, it would seem that you already have the webmaster thing
sussed.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 4:12 am
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Si wrote:
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<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.directoryofbath.co.uk</font" target="_blank">www.directoryofbath.co.uk</font</a>>
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> If you would be so kind, do you mind having a look from a 'users'
> point of view.
Pass your content through a spell-checker.
Define the font size as 100%
I'm not too sure how much benefit is gained from having a text version
(especially of the gallery page). Visitors wishing to use the web without
images are quite capable of turning them off in their browser. Make sure to
define alt text where appropriate.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 5:53 am
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William Tasso wrote in message
> Pass your content through a spell-checker.
Will work on that, my spelling never has been to hot.
> Define the font size as 100%
I havn't come accross this, how will it improve or change what I already
have/havn't done?
> I'm not too sure how much benefit is gained from having a text version
> (especially of the gallery page). Visitors wishing to use the web without
> images are quite capable of turning them off in their browser.
The text version is more to do with the order in which the text is presented
in a speech synth browser or text browser such as lynx. That is, the main
copy comes first, followed by the left nav, then the top level navigation.
(I have just realised I need a 'skip to navigation' link and put the access
keys in place as well... As homer would say, D'oh!)
> Make sure to define alt text where appropriate.
I should have all relevant alt tags in place unless the images are purely
for display or have no real bearing on the content. Oops, is that what you
meant? I'll have a look! Title tags & longdesc?
Take care for now and thank you.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 10:16 am
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Si wrote:
> William Tasso wrote in message
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>> Pass your content through a spell-checker.
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> Will work on that, my spelling never has been to hot.
ITYM "too hot" - sorry, CNR
>> Define the font size as 100%
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> I havn't come accross this, how will it improve or change what I
> already have/havn't done?
When you define font size as 100% you are using the font size specified by
the visitor in their browser. It is arguable that most people do not alter
the settings and use whatever is the manufacturers default - this will be
because the factory default is acceptable to them. All others will have
taken the trouble to specify a larger/smaller font size as appropriate to
their situation. From there it is trivial to specify a font size of 150%
(for example) for headings and perhaps 85% for the small print.
>> I'm not too sure how much benefit is gained from having a text
>> version (especially of the gallery page). Visitors wishing to use
>> the web without images are quite capable of turning them off in
>> their browser.
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> The text version is more to do with the order in which the text is
> presented in a speech synth browser or text browser such as lynx.
Then lay out the html in the desired logical sequence and use CSS to
reposition according to taste
> That is, the main copy comes first, followed by the left nav, then
> the top level navigation. (I have just realised I need a 'skip to
> navigation' link and put the access keys in place as well... As
> homer would say, D'oh!)
Please think very carefully before using access keys. It is possible, no
make that likely that your key definitions will clash with those already in
use on the visitors desktop.
>> Make sure to define alt text where appropriate.
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> I should have all relevant alt tags in place unless the images are
> purely for display or have no real bearing on the content.
in which case use alt=""
> Oops, is
> that what you meant? I'll have a look! Title tags & longdesc?
title attributes may or may not be useful depending on circumstance. is
there any decent support for 'longdesc'?
the alt text is the most useful as this is what will be displayed by
browsers that don't/can't display images.
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 1:15 pm
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In message <zDoIb.192$sf5.142@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>, Si
<simon RemoveThis @MY_PANTSnetforma.com> writes
[snip]
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>www.directoryofbath.co.uk
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>If you would be so kind, do you mind having a look from a 'users' point of
>view.
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[snip]
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>Just wanna see what you all think as well really.
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>Cheers
>
>Si
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>
Wouldn't it be better to have:
[Click here to switch to the low graphics version of this website..]
[Click here for different access options and help..]
presented on entering the page, rather than waiting until just before
the end of the page?
regards
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 1:51 pm
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In message <bsu8fm$1ejp6$1@ID-117621.news.uni-berlin.de>, brucie
<shit RemoveThis @bruciesusenetshit.info> writes
>in post <news:ZSgMmXtAHq8$Ewn7@gododdin.demon.co.uk>
>jake said:
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>> [Click here to switch to the low graphics version of this website..]
>> [Click here for different access options and help..]
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>http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/noClickHere
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Sure...... if he'd have produced:
To switch to the low graphics version of this website [Click here ]
For different access options and help [Click here ]
( brackets [] indicating the text on the link )
The way he's done it seems acceptable -- it's just 'when' he's
presenting it might be a problem.
(In actual fact, a few changes to the presentation and navigation of his
main pages and I don't know that there's that much extra mileage to be
gained by having alternative pages, anyway.)
regards
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 2:51 pm
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in post <news:zDoIb.192$sf5.142@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>
Si said:
> Hope you all had a Christmas
you mean there was a fucking choice?
> how do you pass a query without using post data which search engines
> can't follow?
lots of different ways but you use ASP so i cant help you.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 2:51 pm
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brucie wrote in message
> > Hope you all had a Christmas
>
> you mean there was a fucking choice?
OK, I'm a twat, there was supposed to be a 'good' in there.
On the other hand, I had a headache that lasted all day, but then I found
more beer and it went away.
> > how do you pass a query without using post data which search engines
> > can't follow?
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> lots of different ways but you use ASP so i cant help you.
Hmm, I can write PHP and JSP but for some bizarre reason, I still find ASP
easier to write. I think it's down to the fact that I did the 'teach
yourself' bit after deciding I didn't like being an optician! (which I did
study for!)
Si
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 2:51 pm
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"brucie" <shit DeleteThis @bruciesusenetshit.info> wrote in message
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> in post <news:zDoIb.192$sf5.142@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>
> Si said:
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> > Hope you all had a Christmas
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> you mean there was a fucking choice?
Settle brucie. Soon it'll be Chinese New Year and you'll have something else
to swear at 
Cheers
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 4:38 pm
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in post <news:VYqIb.1682$sf5.769@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk>
Si said:
>>> Hope you all had a Christmas
>> you mean there was a fucking choice?
> OK, I'm a twat, there was supposed to be a 'good' in there.
i didn't want a christmas at all, good or otherwise!
>>> how do you pass a query without using post data which search engines
>>> can't follow?
>> lots of different ways but you use ASP so i cant help you.
> Hmm, I can write PHP
use path_info to pass the variables. dunno if asp is capable.
i use the technique here: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://balls.bruciesusenetshit.info/" target="_blank">http://balls.bruciesusenetshit.info/</a>
you're also on a IIS so i cant help with server configurations. just out
of curiosity why are you on a IIS? their use has been in steady decline
for 4 years.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 8:18 pm
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in post <news:bstsug$1as5u$2@ID-139074.news.uni-berlin.de>
William Tasso said:
> is there any decent support for 'longdesc'?
jaws/outloud and HPR support it
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31/December/2003 05:15:40 pm kilo<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Any suggestions for my site? |
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 11:30 pm
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in post <news:ZSgMmXtAHq8$Ewn7@gododdin.demon.co.uk>
jake said:
> [Click here to switch to the low graphics version of this website..]
> [Click here for different access options and help..]
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/noClickHere" target="_blank">http://www.w3.org/QA/Tips/noClickHere</a>
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 12:28 am
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in post <news:hNvIb.71368$aT.14014@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
rf said:
> Settle brucie. Soon it'll be Chinese New Year and you'll have something else
> to swear at
i cant wait until easter, i'm really going to let rip then.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 2:06 am
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brucie wrote:
> in post <news:hNvIb.71368$aT.14014@news-server.bigpond.net.au>
> rf said:
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>> Settle brucie. Soon it'll be Chinese New Year and you'll have
>> something else to swear at
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> i cant wait until easter, i'm really going to let rip then.
it's a cross that's tough to bear
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