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Since: Nov 03, 2006 Posts: 3
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 3:50 am
Post subject: Really strange behaviour Archived from groups: alt>www>webmaster (more info?)
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I'm uploading an events page for a friend of mine. Every month or so he
sends me a new list of events and I update the page on the web. It's a
really simple site - only one page.
Last time I uploaded, the new page went up OK, but when I looked in my
browser (Firefox) the old version of the page was still there. I
cleared the cache and reloaded - no difference. I tried another browser
(IE6) - still no difference. I restarted the computer - no difference.
I deleted the file from the server, and even deleted and remade the
folder and re-uploaded - still no difference.
But bizarrely (?), when I added 'index.html' to the end of the URL
(which is the name of the file), the new one appeared. Remove the
'index.html' bit - back to the old version.
Tried it on another computer in my house - that was showing the new
version.
Most peculiar of all, after about 15 mins rest I refreshed the browser
window and it showed the new version (hurray!) but then when I
refreshed again it went back to the old one and stayed there! Weird or
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Since: Nov 03, 2006 Posts: 3
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:45 am
Post subject: Re: Really strange behaviour [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Matt Probert wrote:
> On 3 Nov 2006 03:50:55 -0800, "alan" <alan.rolfe.DeleteThis@tvu.ac.uk> wrote:
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> >Most peculiar of all, after about 15 mins rest I refreshed the browser
> >window and it showed the new version (hurray!) but then when I
> >refreshed again it went back to the old one and stayed there! Weird or
> >what?!
> >
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> It may be caching en route between the http server and your PC.
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> There are lots of stops en route, any one of them could (should) be
> caching pages, it only needs one of them to fail to collect the
> changed version for an older page to be delivered.
>
> Matt
>
>
> --
> Woe to him that willfully innovates, while ignorant of the constant.
> http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com
This sounds like a possibility. Is there any way I can force my browser
to use the new page? I've tried putting in the header the line:
<META HTTP-EQUIV="expires" CONTENT="Wed, 26 Feb 1997 08:21:57 GMT">
which works locally, but not in this case.
Alan >> Stay informed about: Really strange behaviour |
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Since: Jul 08, 2005 Posts: 17
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 5:57 am
Post subject: Re: Really strange behaviour [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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alan wrote:
> I'm uploading an events page for a friend of mine. Every month or so he
> sends me a new list of events and I update the page on the web. It's a
> really simple site - only one page.
>
> Last time I uploaded, the new page went up OK, but when I looked in my
> browser (Firefox) the old version of the page was still there. I
> cleared the cache and reloaded - no difference. I tried another browser
> (IE6) - still no difference. I restarted the computer - no difference.
> I deleted the file from the server, and even deleted and remade the
> folder and re-uploaded - still no difference.
>
> But bizarrely (?), when I added 'index.html' to the end of the URL
> (which is the name of the file), the new one appeared. Remove the
> 'index.html' bit - back to the old version.
>
> Tried it on another computer in my house - that was showing the new
> version.
>
> Most peculiar of all, after about 15 mins rest I refreshed the browser
> window and it showed the new version (hurray!) but then when I
> refreshed again it went back to the old one and stayed there! Weird or
> what?!
If it's just a one page site, check to make sure there are absolutely
no other html files in the root directory. Filenames such as index.htm,
index.asp, index.php, default.htm, default.html, etc., depending on
your server, would be displayed preferencially before index.html. If
you have those files, delete them.
-Arccos >> Stay informed about: Really strange behaviour |
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Since: Nov 03, 2006 Posts: 3
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 6:07 am
Post subject: Re: Really strange behaviour [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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arccos wrote:
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> If it's just a one page site, check to make sure there are absolutely
> no other html files in the root directory. Filenames such as index.htm,
> index.asp, index.php, default.htm, default.html, etc., depending on
> your server, would be displayed preferencially before index.html. If
> you have those files, delete them.
>
> -Arccos
No, there are no other files at all in the directory. I checked by not
only deleting the index.html file, but also the folder, and then
recreating them. In any case, that would not explain why other
computers show the updated file but mine still shows the old version.
Alan >> Stay informed about: Really strange behaviour |
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Since: Jun 29, 2003 Posts: 720
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 1:13 pm
Post subject: Re: Really strange behaviour [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On 3 Nov 2006 03:50:55 -0800, "alan" <alan.rolfe RemoveThis @tvu.ac.uk> wrote:
>Most peculiar of all, after about 15 mins rest I refreshed the browser
>window and it showed the new version (hurray!) but then when I
>refreshed again it went back to the old one and stayed there! Weird or
>what?!
>
It may be caching en route between the http server and your PC.
There are lots of stops en route, any one of them could (should) be
caching pages, it only needs one of them to fail to collect the
changed version for an older page to be delivered.
Matt
--
Woe to him that willfully innovates, while ignorant of the constant.
http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com >> Stay informed about: Really strange behaviour |
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Since: Jun 29, 2003 Posts: 720
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Nov 03, 2006 8:14 pm
Post subject: Re: Really strange behaviour [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On 3 Nov 2006 05:45:19 -0800, "alan" <alan.rolfe.TakeThisOut@tvu.ac.uk> wrote:
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>Matt Probert wrote:
>> On 3 Nov 2006 03:50:55 -0800, "alan" <alan.rolfe.TakeThisOut@tvu.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> >Most peculiar of all, after about 15 mins rest I refreshed the browser
>> >window and it showed the new version (hurray!) but then when I
>> >refreshed again it went back to the old one and stayed there! Weird or
>> >what?!
>> >
>>
>> It may be caching en route between the http server and your PC.
>>
>> There are lots of stops en route, any one of them could (should) be
>> caching pages, it only needs one of them to fail to collect the
>> changed version for an older page to be delivered.
>>
>> Matt
>>
>>
>> --
>> Woe to him that willfully innovates, while ignorant of the constant.
>> http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com
>
>This sounds like a possibility. Is there any way I can force my browser
>to use the new page? I've tried putting in the header the line:
><META HTTP-EQUIV="expires" CONTENT="Wed, 26 Feb 1997 08:21:57 GMT">
>which works locally, but not in this case.
>
>Alan
>
You need to issue appropriate http headers from the server. This is
not something you can do with the html.
You can use Firefox to view the http headers currently being
transmitted.
Matt
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Woe to him that willfully innovates, while ignorant of the constant.
http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com >> Stay informed about: Really strange behaviour |
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