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geraldidontwan

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 10:18 pm
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Hi,

I have been asked to evaluate this site http://www.dutchderwish.com/ for
an award only I cannot view the pages very well as on my PC the text and
background are too similar.

I would like to know if it is my settings or is it hard for others to
see.

Thanks

Gerald

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 10:25 pm
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"Grytpype-Thynne" <geraldIDONTWANTSPAMbramwell.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in
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 > Hi,
 >
<font color=purple> > I have been asked to evaluate this site <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.dutchderwish.com/</font" target="_blank">http://www.dutchderwish.com/</font</a>>
 > for an award only I cannot view the pages very well as on my PC the
 > text and background are too similar.
 >
 > I would like to know if it is my settings or is it hard for others to
 > see.
 >
 > Thanks
 >
 > Gerald

The site is very poorly designed. You are right about the color contrast
between text and background being a problem. Also doorway page doesn't fit
on an 800x600 screen without horizontal scrolling, and the main site is done
in 3 frames that all require horizontal scrolling. It's horrible.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 10:30 pm
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Grytpype-Thynne <geraldIDONTWANTSPAMbramwell DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.dutchderwish.com/</font" target="_blank">http://www.dutchderwish.com/</font</a>>

* scrollbars at 800x600
* frames and bars everywhere!

This site is unuseable to me and about half of the viewers out there.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 10:43 pm
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Grytpype-Thynne wrote:
 > Hi,
 >
<font color=purple> > I have been asked to evaluate this site <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.dutchderwish.com/</font" target="_blank">http://www.dutchderwish.com/</font</a>>
 > for an award only I cannot view the pages very well as on my PC the
 > text and background are too similar.
 >
 > I would like to know if it is my settings or is it hard for others to
 > see.
 >

very minimilist - nice black screen

a quick peek at the source reveals no text but: src="index.swf"

what sort of award? I recommend this site as the least accessible site I
have seen all week.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 11:38 pm
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In article <mufUa.5578$Hr.138990@twister.socal.rr.com>, rekilowatt@aww-
faq.org says...
 > "Grytpype-Thynne" <geraldIDONTWANTSPAMbramwell DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in
 > message news:MPG.198b84b944b9f2649896de@news.individual.net
  > > Hi,
  > >
<font color=green>  > > I have been asked to evaluate this site <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.dutchderwish.com/</font" target="_blank">http://www.dutchderwish.com/</font</a>>
  > > for an award only I cannot view the pages very well as on my PC the
  > > text and background are too similar.
  > >
  > > I would like to know if it is my settings or is it hard for others to
  > > see.
  > >
  > > Thanks
  > >
  > > Gerald
 >
 > The site is very poorly designed. You are right about the color contrast
 > between text and background being a problem. Also doorway page doesn't fit
 > on an 800x600 screen without horizontal scrolling, and the main site is done
 > in 3 frames that all require horizontal scrolling. It's horrible.
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 >
 >
 >
Thanks guys, I was beginning to think my eyes were going or the monitor
was on the way out.

I am the webmaster for <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.animals-in-distress.net" target="_blank">www.animals-in-distress.net</a> I don't claim to have
a great site but I hope its not that bad.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 11:38 pm
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"Grytpype-Thynne" <geraldIDONTWANTSPAMbramwell RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in
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 > Thanks guys, I was beginning to think my eyes were going or the
 > monitor was on the way out.
 >
 > I am the webmaster for <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.animals-in-distress.net" target="_blank">www.animals-in-distress.net</a> I don't claim to
 > have a great site but I hope its not that bad.
 >
 > Gerald

Much better, although I think it's a little heavy on ads/awards/notices.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2003 11:38 pm
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Grytpype-Thynne <geraldIDONTWANTSPAMbramwell.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.animals-in-distress.net</font" target="_blank">www.animals-in-distress.net</font</a>>

It would be more legible in a sans-serif font with a solid color behind the
text.

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 12:37 am
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Grytpype-Thynne wrote:

 > I have been asked to evaluate this site <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.dutchderwish.com/" target="_blank">http://www.dutchderwish.com/</a> for
 > an award

Unless the award is related to the Darwin Awards or the prize is something
to do with regurgitated lunch, discard this site. Unless you approve of
usability disasters being presented as "design".



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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 1:13 am
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In article <Xns93C37F308A29Ahalljmattnet.RemoveThis@68.12.19.6>, hall.j.m.RemoveThis@att.net
says...
 > Grytpype-Thynne <geraldIDONTWANTSPAMbramwell.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
 >
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.dutchderwish.com/</font" target="_blank">http://www.dutchderwish.com/</font</a>>
 >
 > * scrollbars at 800x600
 > * frames and bars everywhere!
 >
 > This site is unuseable to me and about half of the viewers out there.
 >
 >
After telling the applicant I could not evaluate the site I received this
reply

Thank you for evaluating the Dutchderwish-project.
Since the colorscheme is not a problem for other visitors, I see no need
to
alter the coloring-scheme. However, if more complaints about the coloring
should arise, and as an effect of that the scheme is altered, we'll be
sure
resubmit our project.

Thank you once more,

Ed Böck
&
The Dragon Design Team.



I don't think I could stand to look at it again

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 1:13 am
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"Grytpype-Thynne" <geraldIDONTWANTSPAMbramwell.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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 > Thank you for evaluating the Dutchderwish-project.
 > Since the colorscheme is not a problem for other visitors, I see no need
 > to
 > alter the coloring-scheme. However, if more complaints about the coloring
 > should arise, and as an effect of that the scheme is altered, we'll be
 > sure
 > resubmit our project.

LOL, that's like a restaurant hoping to hear from the people that don't like
their food and won't be back.

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 1:14 am
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In article <Xns93C389878D96Bhalljmattnet RemoveThis @68.12.19.6>, hall.j.m RemoveThis @att.net
says...
 > Grytpype-Thynne <geraldIDONTWANTSPAMbramwell RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
 >
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.animals-in-distress.net</font" target="_blank">www.animals-in-distress.net</font</a>>
 >
 > It would be more legible in a sans-serif font with a solid color behind the
 > text.
 >
 >
Thanks for all your pointers, I'll take it up with the charity.

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 10:37 am
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"William Tasso" <ngx.DeleteThis@tbdata.com> wrote in message
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 > Grytpype-Thynne wrote:
  > > Hi,
  > >
<font color=green>  > > I have been asked to evaluate this site <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.dutchderwish.com/</font" target="_blank">http://www.dutchderwish.com/</font</a>>
  > > for an award only I cannot view the pages very well as on my PC the
  > > text and background are too similar.
  > >
  > > I would like to know if it is my settings or is it hard for others to
  > > see.
  > >
 >
 > very minimilist - nice black screen
 >
 > a quick peek at the source reveals no text but: src="index.swf"
 >
 > what sort of award? I recommend this site as the least accessible site I
 > have seen all week.
 >
Bormally I would approve in principle as I like flash and think (good) flash
is both underated and misunderstood.

However, even I did notbelieve what I saw when I entered the site - yes, the
fron page came up nicely with a good flash lead in that loaded quickly and
sugested some promise. BUT the next page shock horro, was made of 3 frames -
early 80s style with all the frame bars visable (and taking up a good slice
of the screen.

What stopped me going any further was that each frame - including the nav
frame were completely flash. Badly done flash I might add and over the top -
even for this normally accepting flash person.

A vote for the award - Yuk, thumbs down, out of 10? - have to be minus 100<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2003 10:52 am
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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 22:13:25 +0100 Grytpype-Thynne
<geraldIDONTWANTSPAMbramwell DeleteThis @hotmail.com> broke off from drinking a
cup of tea at home to write:

 >In article <Xns93C37F308A29Ahalljmattnet DeleteThis @68.12.19.6>, hall.j.m DeleteThis @att.net
 >says...
  >> Grytpype-Thynne <geraldIDONTWANTSPAMbramwell DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote:
  >>
<font color=brown>   >> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.dutchderwish.com/</font" target="_blank">http://www.dutchderwish.com/</font</a>>
  >>
  >> * scrollbars at 800x600
  >> * frames and bars everywhere!
  >>
  >> This site is unuseable to me and about half of the viewers out there.
  >>
  >>
 >After telling the applicant I could not evaluate the site I received this
 >reply
 >
 >Thank you for evaluating the Dutchderwish-project.
 >Since the colorscheme is not a problem for other visitors, I see no need
 >to
 >alter the coloring-scheme. However, if more complaints about the coloring
 >should arise, and as an effect of that the scheme is altered, we'll be
 >sure
 >resubmit our project.
 >

Talk about arrogance and stupidity! Where do they get off? They have a
flash only site, with poor contrast? I shant even bother taking a
look, I have a bad enough headache already.

Matt

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