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kingpucky

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 4:06 am
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Hi,

I was wondering if you could take a look at this site and make any
suggestions you think are necessary, this is the first site I have put
together. A friend of a friend is offering to pay me aroung £100 which I am
happy with as this is my first attempt but I was wondering if it is worth
that to him, if you know what I mean. He hasn't see the final draft yet.

http://www.theashleygroup.co.uk

I haven't uploaded this onto his webspace yet.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 4:06 am
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"Robin Goodfellow" <kingpucky.DeleteThis@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

 > A friend of a friend is offering to pay me aroung œ100 which I am
 > happy with as this is my first attempt but I was wondering if it is
worth
 > that to him, if you know what I mean. He hasn't see the final draft
yet.
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.theashleygroup.co.uk</font" target="_blank">http://www.theashleygroup.co.uk</font</a>>

Yuck.

First off, a splash page is not a requirement for a web site. In fact,
it's just one more barrier between the visitor and the content. Second,
frames are not for noobs - and the experienced people know better. Last,
the pixelated graphics just scream, "cheap!".

Start over, and K.I.S.S.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 4:06 am
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"Robin Goodfellow" <kingpucky RemoveThis @yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > Hi,
 >
 > I was wondering if you could take a look at this site and make any
 > suggestions you think are necessary, this is the first site I have put
 > together. A friend of a friend is offering to pay me aroung £100
 > which I am happy with as this is my first attempt but I was wondering
 > if it is worth that to him, if you know what I mean. He hasn't see
 > the final draft yet.
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.theashleygroup.co.uk</font" target="_blank">http://www.theashleygroup.co.uk</font</a>>
 >
 > I haven't uploaded this onto his webspace yet.

The Ashley Group logo could use some improvement--especially the smaller
one.
You should try to eliminate horizontal scrolling in your frame.
Once you pick a range within the cataloge there's no button to back up to
the "range" list.
One the "range" page, the text should by hyperlinked as well as the images.
Add "For more information on this product, contact us at
ashley RemoveThis @theashleygroup.co.uk" (or something like it) on each product page.
Add the logo to the main frame--but then you'll have to change colors so it
will stand out from the background.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 4:06 am
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"Red E. Kilowatt" <rekilowatt.DeleteThis@aww-faq.org> wrote in message
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 > "Robin Goodfellow" <kingpucky.DeleteThis@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
 > news:MrQ5b.1441$1%2.30748@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net
  >> Hi,
  >>
  >> I was wondering if you could take a look at this site and make any
  >> suggestions you think are necessary, this is the first site I have
  >> put together. A friend of a friend is offering to pay me aroung £100
  >> which I am happy with as this is my first attempt but I was wondering
  >> if it is worth that to him, if you know what I mean. He hasn't see
  >> the final draft yet.
  >>
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.theashleygroup.co.uk</font" target="_blank">http://www.theashleygroup.co.uk</font</a>>
  >>
  >> I haven't uploaded this onto his webspace yet.
 >
 > The Ashley Group logo could use some improvement--especially the
 > smaller one.
 > You should try to eliminate horizontal scrolling in your frame.
 > Once you pick a range within the cataloge there's no button to back
 > up to the "range" list.
 > One the "range" page, the text should by hyperlinked as well as the
 > images. Add "For more information on this product, contact us at
 > ashley.DeleteThis@theashleygroup.co.uk" (or something like it) on each product
 > page. Add the logo to the main frame--but then you'll have to change
 > colors so it will stand out from the background.

Fix all that and it will be worth the £100
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 4:11 am
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In article <MrQ5b.1441$1%2.30748@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net>,
Robin Goodfellow wrote:
 > Hi,
 >
 > I was wondering if you could take a look at this site and make any
 > suggestions you think are necessary, this is the first site I have put
 > together. A friend of a friend is offering to pay me aroung £100 which I am
 > happy with as this is my first attempt but I was wondering if it is worth
 > that to him, if you know what I mean. He hasn't see the final draft yet.
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.theashleygroup.co.uk</font" target="_blank">http://www.theashleygroup.co.uk</font</a>>
 >
 > I haven't uploaded this onto his webspace yet.
 >

The sleep.jpg is size compressed using html code, instead you should resize
using a graphics proogram, otherwise the graphic looks squeezed and out of
proportion.

I think frames are counter productive in this case, youre selling a product,
but you're limiting the viewing of the product to, maybe 30% say 40% of the
available screen...

Adjust the pic, sleep.jpg then add additional info to the header, the name
of the company should be in the top of the first fold, maybe incorp into the
sleep image. What happen is when the use scrolls through one of the frames,
the center frame, the name of the company disappears, it's no where to be
found.

Make bigger pictures of the bed, that's what they're selling, too much
wasted space that could be given to promoting the product.

I don't think the blue works...but that's just me, maybe.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 4:28 am
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no_user DeleteThis @no_particular_domain.com (see above) wrote in
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 > In article <MrQ5b.1441$1%2.30748@newsfep4-glfd.server.ntli.net>,
 > Robin Goodfellow wrote:
  >> Hi,
  >>
  >> I was wondering if you could take a look at this site and make any
  >> suggestions you think are necessary, this is the first site I have
  >> put together. A friend of a friend is offering to pay me aroung £100
  >> which I am happy with as this is my first attempt but I was wondering
  >> if it is worth that to him, if you know what I mean. He hasn't see
  >> the final draft yet.
  >>
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.theashleygroup.co.uk</font" target="_blank">http://www.theashleygroup.co.uk</font</a>>
  >>
  >> I haven't uploaded this onto his webspace yet.
  >>
 >
 > The sleep.jpg is size compressed using html code, instead you should
 > resize using a graphics proogram, otherwise the graphic looks squeezed
 > and out of proportion.
 >
 > I think frames are counter productive in this case, youre selling a
 > product, but you're limiting the viewing of the product to, maybe 30%
 > say 40% of the available screen...
 >
 > Adjust the pic, sleep.jpg then add additional info to the header, the
 > name of the company should be in the top of the first fold, maybe
 > incorp into the sleep image. What happen is when the use scrolls
 > through one of the frames, the center frame, the name of the company
 > disappears, it's no where to be found.
 >
 > Make bigger pictures of the bed, that's what they're selling, too much
 > wasted space that could be given to promoting the product.
 >
 > I don't think the blue works...but that's just me, maybe.

I agree - the blue doesn't work at all.

More comments:

The catalogue page scrolls way too much. Too much spacing between
products and the images are too big if you want them all on one page.

Consider a 2x4 or 3x3 grid to display them with no scrolling.

sleepy.jpg needs the edges anti-aliased (I think that's the right term)
onto a blue background and not a white one, as it is now (Has that "cut
out" look to it)

The "Kozee Sleep" and "Ashley Group" logos on top of the catalogue page
are redundant/useless and simply take up space - move them into the
individual product pages to keep the branding.

Personally, I don't like serif fonts on web sites, but that could be me
(I prefer arial or verdana - seems easier on the eyes)

12 megs for a PDF brochure is insane - convert it into HTML and then
you've got all that content for the site (and will be indexble by the
SE's, to boot)

You need <title> tags

You need more information on the site other than just the products and
prices alone - as it stands now, it's a brochure-ware site - i.e. the
only people who will visit are those already convinced to buy. Right now,
there is no reason for people to come back to the site.

(An article or two on the differences in quality, selecting decent
pillows, blankets, etc, etc)

That's the quick stuff, off the top of my head... A good first start,
though, to be sure.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 5:48 am
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Thanks for the replies so far. The blue is the colour of their logo etc.
and would you believe that the logo that they are using, which they gave to
me is just made in word.

The site is only for retailers to obtain information on the products that
they are distributing so there won't be any public viewing the site.

I wasn't going to have a splash screen but they wanted the two logos to be
shown at the beginning as they are going to copy this site onto cd and post
it out to retailers that they deal with. Do you think if I made the logo in
illustrator it would make that much of a difference?

I have added links to the text on the catalogue page, the pictures of the
beds though are really there just to refresh the retailers memory, so that
they know what the information is about.

Anyone know of software than can compress a PDF file further?

I know that it isn't anything special but they wanted the cheapest option
and if I were to spend days on this I wouldn't be getting anything else for
it.


"Robin Goodfellow" <kingpucky DeleteThis @yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > Hi,
 >
 > I was wondering if you could take a look at this site and make any
 > suggestions you think are necessary, this is the first site I have put
 > together. A friend of a friend is offering to pay me aroung £100 which I
am
 > happy with as this is my first attempt but I was wondering if it is worth
 > that to him, if you know what I mean. He hasn't see the final draft yet.
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.theashleygroup.co.uk</font" target="_blank">http://www.theashleygroup.co.uk</font</a>>
 >
 > I haven't uploaded this onto his webspace yet.
 >
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 5:48 am
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"Robin Goodfellow" <kingpucky.DeleteThis@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

 > I know that it isn't anything special but they wanted the cheapest
 > option and if I were to spend days on this I wouldn't be getting
 > anything else for it.

If their logo is carved in wood, and they aren't carpenters or other wood
artisans, I'd say that you are giving them value for their money.

At least, you are accurately representing them.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 5:54 am
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wot every1 else said, its a good adtempt but needs alot of fixing.... and
the blue is too bright

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"Robin Goodfellow" <kingpucky DeleteThis @yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > Hi,
 >
 > I was wondering if you could take a look at this site and make any
 > suggestions you think are necessary, this is the first site I have put
 > together. A friend of a friend is offering to pay me aroung £100 which I
am
 > happy with as this is my first attempt but I was wondering if it is worth
 > that to him, if you know what I mean. He hasn't see the final draft yet.
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.theashleygroup.co.uk</font" target="_blank">http://www.theashleygroup.co.uk</font</a>>
 >
 > I haven't uploaded this onto his webspace yet.
 >
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 6:07 am
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I have changed the splash logo, does this look better or worse? Every time
I try and draw and oval it looks crap around the edges
"Robin Goodfellow" <kingpucky.DeleteThis@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > Hi,
 >
 > I was wondering if you could take a look at this site and make any
 > suggestions you think are necessary, this is the first site I have put
 > together. A friend of a friend is offering to pay me aroung £100 which I
am
 > happy with as this is my first attempt but I was wondering if it is worth
 > that to him, if you know what I mean. He hasn't see the final draft yet.
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.theashleygroup.co.uk</font" target="_blank">http://www.theashleygroup.co.uk</font</a>>
 >
 > I haven't uploaded this onto his webspace yet.
 >
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 6:16 am
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 > Every time I try and draw and oval it looks crap around the edges

make sure u got anti-aliasing turned on

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 8:14 am
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Robin Goodfellow wrote:

 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.theashleygroup.co.uk</font" target="_blank">http://www.theashleygroup.co.uk</font</a>>
 >

From the site: "We are the sole distributors for Kozee Sleep Beds
throughout the whole of Ireland."

Ireland - .co.uk ??

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 11:59 am
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Ireland is a country that is split in two, so that's not really a point
worth discussing.


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 > Robin Goodfellow wrote:
 >
  > >
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.theashleygroup.co.uk</font" target="_blank">http://www.theashleygroup.co.uk</font</a>>
  > >
 >
 > From the site: "We are the sole distributors for Kozee Sleep Beds
 > throughout the whole of Ireland."
 >
 > Ireland - .co.uk ??
 >
 > --
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:42 pm
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"Robin Goodfellow" <kingpucky.RemoveThis@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > Hi,
 >
 > I was wondering if you could take a look at this site and make any
 > suggestions you think are necessary, this is the first site I have put
 > together. A friend of a friend is offering to pay me aroung £100 which I
am
 > happy with as this is my first attempt but I was wondering if it is worth
 > that to him, if you know what I mean. He hasn't see the final draft yet.
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.theashleygroup.co.uk</font" target="_blank">http://www.theashleygroup.co.uk</font</a>>

Why must the user click to enter the site? What's wrong with them entering
the site when they type in the address? Is it a test?

Put a title on your pages.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 12:47 pm
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"Robin Goodfellow" <kingpucky.RemoveThis@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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 > Ireland is a country that is split in two, so that's not really a point
 > worth discussing.

Yes it is. .co.uk looks strange on an Irish site.
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