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Just to state the obvious and to repeat other postings, sorry.
The legend is an inline element containing
a caption text for the fieldset element,
and in principle improves accessibility
when the fieldset is rendered non-visually.
If you thought of using h4 (a block element) for font size and look,
obviously you should use stylesheets instead.

William Tasso wrote:

> Greetings
>
> Silly HTML ...
>
> validator says I can't place Hn elements inside a form legend
>
> like so: <legend><h4>Edit Blue-Worzle data</h4></legend>
>
> makes perfect sense to me <g>
>
> oh well - I'm sure it has its reasons.
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John Bokma wrote:

> cristina wrote:
>
>
> > ... accessibility
>
> Funny, top posting and talking about accessibility.
>
>
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Why is it funny? (It is great that it is funny, thanks,
even if I do not know why)

What I meant is that it seems to me that the legend element
was intended as a caption for the fieldset element, and
usually it does not need to include more than plain text.
The legend element was supposed to improve web content accessibility,
together with the fieldset element
( Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 1.0
http://www.w3.org/TR/WAI-WEBCONTENT/ )
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John Bokma wrote:

> "cristina" <cristina DeleteThis @asymptoticdesign.com> wrote:
>
>
> > ... accessibility
>
> Funny, top posting and talking about accessibility.
>
>
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Sorry, me again. Yes, you are right, top posting
hugely affects accessibility, it is very sad, not funny,
I apologize and I am very sorry about it.
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Charles Sweeney wrote:

> cristina wrote
>
> > Sorry, me again. Yes, you are right, top posting
> > hugely affects accessibility, it is very sad, not funny,
> > I apologize and I am very sorry about it.
>
> So you should be. Frankly I'm amazed that you had the brazen cheek to show
> your face in here again.
>
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Please explain why you are writing like this.
Of course I am not going to post again to this group,
but I do not understand your posting.
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William Tasso wrote:
> Greetings
>
> Silly HTML ...
>
> validator says I can't place Hn elements inside a form legend
>
> like so: <legend><h4>Edit Blue-Worzle data</h4></legend>
>
> makes perfect sense to me <g>
>
> oh well - I'm sure it has its reasons.
> --William Tasso


Hmm... does it work the other way around?

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William Tasso wrote

> Greetings
>
> Silly HTML ...
>
> validator says I can't place Hn elements inside a form legend
>
> like so: <legend><h4>Edit Blue-Worzle data</h4></legend>
>
> makes perfect sense to me <g>
>
> oh well - I'm sure it has its reasons.

"Validator says no"

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"cristina" <cristina.TakeThisOut@asymptoticdesign.com> wrote:


> ... accessibility

Funny, top posting and talking about accessibility.


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Fleeing from the madness of the jungle
Karl Groves <karl.TakeThisOut@NOSPAMkarlcore.com> stumbled into news:alt.www.webmaster
and said:

> "William Tasso" <SpamBlocked.TakeThisOut@tbdata.com> wrote in news:op.tkgirdq0m9g4qz-
> wnt.TakeThisOut@tbdata.com:
>
>> Greetings
>>
>> Silly HTML ...
>>
>> validator says I can't place Hn elements inside a form legend
>>
>> like so: <legend><h4>Edit Blue-Worzle data</h4></legend>
>>
>> makes perfect sense to me <g>
>>
>> oh well - I'm sure it has its reasons.
>
> Legend is an inline element.

yes, yes, I know that

Doesn't stop it being silly.

> H4 is block level. You can't place a block level element inside an
> inline
> one.

bah - do I have to mark my posts as rhetorical now?

PS: that's a rhetorical Q
pps: Thanks to all for sharing the moment.
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cristina wrote

> Sorry, me again. Yes, you are right, top posting
> hugely affects accessibility, it is very sad, not funny,
> I apologize and I am very sorry about it.

So you should be. Frankly I'm amazed that you had the brazen cheek to show
your face in here again.

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William Tasso wrote:

> > Legend is an inline element.
>
> yes, yes, I know that
>
> Doesn't stop it being silly.

Silly? Simple, certainly.

The alternative would be to push "blockness" further down into the
children of <form> and that would complicate their layout
substantially.

Also a <h*> element isn't a caption, it's a header. "Header" iin HTML
terms is more to do with the logical structuring of document content,
not just captioning. In these terms then headers are inherently block
elements rather than inline. Conversely your intended use of one here
(inside the <form>) is implicitly wrong because it has the behaviour of
being a caption (arguably just presentational) but not that of being a
header (in the HTML sense).
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"cristina" <cristina RemoveThis @asymptoticdesign.com> wrote:

> Sorry, me again. Yes, you are right, top posting
> hugely affects accessibility, it is very sad, not funny,
> I apologize and I am very sorry about it.

Thanks, and no worries.

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"cristina" <cristina DeleteThis @asymptoticdesign.com> wrote:

> Charles Sweeney wrote:

[..]

> Please explain why you are writing like this.
> Of course I am not going to post again to this group,
> but I do not understand your posting.

Read it as a joke. On the other hand, one does get tired of explaining
almost daily to people how Usenet works while it's not that hard to figure
it out by oneself.

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"William Tasso" <SpamBlocked.DeleteThis@tbdata.com> wrote:

>Greetings
>
>Silly HTML ...
>
>validator says I can't place Hn elements inside a form legend
>
>like so: <legend><h4>Edit Blue-Worzle data</h4></legend>
>
>makes perfect sense to me <g>
>
>oh well - I'm sure it has its reasons.

Yah, like it's not a full and accurate parser. I once had it (the w3c
one) tell me there was no "id" attribute in a particular tag, and the
"id" it was pointing at was part of an argument list in a url.

Whatever. I've never been that fond of html as a markup language to
begin with, and I'm only just beginning to address "validation issues"
so I'm probably silly to comment on this at all. But hey, a guy needs
to present himself as a target occasionally, right? <g>

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