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user126

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 6:34 pm
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I know many search engines don't index pages with query strings. I was
wondering about special characters such as spaces and apostrophes (') and
percentage signs (%).

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Graham

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 6:34 pm
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On Wed, 09 Jul 2003 15:34:55 GMT, Experienced but Undocumented
<me.TakeThisOut@REMOVETHIS.toao.net> wrote:

 > I know many search engines don't index pages with query strings. I was
 > wondering about special characters such as spaces and apostrophes (') and
 > percentage signs (%).

Percentage signs yes, since they're part of the URL-encoding system. eg.
spaces in a URL become %20.

Apostrophes... all I can say is that I don't see too many URLs with
apostrophes in them listed on google.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 7:59 pm
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Experienced but Undocumented wrote:

 > I know many search engines don't index pages with query strings. I was
 > wondering about special characters such as spaces and apostrophes (') and
 > percentage signs (%).

Tip: Design for people. Would you like to type in a URL including
apostrophes and percentage signs? IMO it is best to try to keep URLs to the
standard 26 character alphabet (lowercase) along with ".", "/" and "-".

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 7:59 pm
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"David Dorward" <dorward.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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 > Experienced but Undocumented wrote:
 >
  > > I know many search engines don't index pages with query strings. I was
  > > wondering about special characters such as spaces and apostrophes (')
and
  > > percentage signs (%).
 >
 > Tip: Design for people. Would you like to type in a URL including
 > apostrophes and percentage signs? IMO it is best to try to keep URLs to
the
 > standard 26 character alphabet (lowercase) along with ".", "/" and "-".
 >

Outside of "-" all other special characters are denied in the actual domain
name.
The period is a seperator from tld and domain name.
The "/" is a unilateral directory seperator.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 8:26 pm
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"David Dorward" <dorward DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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 > Tip: Design for people. Would you like to type in a URL including
 > apostrophes and percentage signs? IMO it is best to try to keep URLs to
the
 > standard 26 character alphabet (lowercase) along with ".", "/" and "-".

Maybe I could have your opinion on this.
Currently I have URLs like
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.hawhawjokes.com/jokes/Fun%20Things%20to%20Do%20in%20an%20Office" target="_blank">http://www.hawhawjokes.com/jokes/Fun%20Things%20to%20Do%20in%20an%20Office</a>
Note that <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.hawhawjokes.com/jokes/Fun" target="_blank">http://www.hawhawjokes.com/jokes/Fun</a> Things to Do in an Office
will also work.
What would you do? Have an ID number six or so digits long? I wanted it to
be human readable.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 8:27 pm
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"Experienced but Undocumented" <me.DeleteThis@REMOVETHIS.toao.net> wrote in message
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 > Maybe I could have your opinion on this.
 > Currently I have URLs like
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.hawhawjokes.com/jokes/Fun%20Things%20to%20Do%20in%20an%20Office</font" target="_blank">http://www.hawhawjokes.com/jokes/Fun%20Things%20to%20Do%20in%20an%20Of...e</f</a>>
 > Note that <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.hawhawjokes.com/jokes/Fun" target="_blank">http://www.hawhawjokes.com/jokes/Fun</a> Things to Do in an Office
 > will also work.
 > What would you do?

I'd replace the spaces with underscores:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.hawhawjokes.com/jokes/Fun_Things_to_Do" target="_blank">http://www.hawhawjokes.com/jokes/Fun_Things_to_Do</a> in_an_Office/

And, unless the server is set up not to be case sensitive, I'd keep it all
lower case.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 9:52 pm
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Experienced but Undocumented wrote:

 > Currently I have URLs like
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.hawhawjokes.com/jokes/Fun%20Things%20to%20Do%20in%20an%20Office</font" target="_blank">http://www.hawhawjokes.com/jokes/Fun%20Things%20to%20Do%20in%20an%20Of...e</f</a>>

Working out what that says isn't exactly easy.

 > Note that <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.hawhawjokes.com/jokes/Fun" target="_blank">http://www.hawhawjokes.com/jokes/Fun</a> Things to Do in an Office
 > will also work.

Only if the browser is capable of error correction.

 > What would you do?

It depends on the rest of the content of the site. Possibly something like:

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.hawhawjokes.com/todo/office/" target="_blank">http://www.hawhawjokes.com/todo/office/</a>

 > Have an ID number six or so digits long?

Noooo!

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 9:52 pm
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"David Dorward" <dorward DeleteThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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 > It depends on the rest of the content of the site. Possibly something
like:
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.hawhawjokes.com/todo/office/</font" target="_blank">http://www.hawhawjokes.com/todo/office/</font</a>>


What about <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.hawhawjokes.com/jokes/Fun_Things_to_Do_in_an_Office" target="_blank">http://www.hawhawjokes.com/jokes/Fun_Things_to_Do_in_an_Office</a>
(with underscores)...or is that too long? The problem is, I have about 1500
jokes and if I wanted to use something like /todo/office I would have to
create one of these for each individual joke. Are underscores considered
bad?

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Jul 09, 2003 10:30 pm
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Experienced but Undocumented wrote:

  >> It depends on the rest of the content of the site. Possibly something
  >> like:
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.hawhawjokes.com/todo/office/</font" target="_blank">http://www.hawhawjokes.com/todo/office/</font</a>>

<font color=purple> > What about <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.hawhawjokes.com/jokes/Fun_Things_to_Do_in_an_Office</font" target="_blank">http://www.hawhawjokes.com/jokes/Fun_Things_to_Do_in_an_Office</font</a>>
 > (with underscores)...or is that too long?

IMO its too long. And typing underscores is a pain on many keyboards.

 > The problem is, I have about 1500 jokes and if I wanted to use something
 > like /todo/office I would have to create one of these for each individual
 > joke.

Compared to creating 1500 pages with really long underscored URLs?

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