pros and cons of htaccess?

"bad_knee" <bl8n8r.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:e817ca4d.0311200435.76946539@posting.google.com...
 > Hello,
 > I'm setting up a website for file transfer for a small
 > number of users - about 100. I will need a way for
 > each user to login and see a different list of files
 > depending on who they are.
 >
 > My options are roll my own cgi user/pass main page,
 > or use "htaccess" files. I don't know anything about php
 > other than it looks cool.
 >
 > what are the drawbacks of htaccess? It doesnt sound like
 > its the first choice of the majority.
 >
 > thanks

ftp is the only way to go in my opinion. If you get your
self a good php download data base program like pafiledb
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.phparena.net/" target="_blank">http://www.phparena.net/</a> and link the files to be downloaded
to any site you wish. I have mine linked to my ftp on a file by
file basses so the client will never see a browser, just a save to
screen. You can throttle ftp so you don't use up all your bandwidth
on just downloads you can limit number of DL users at one time.
you can lock DL if you want. I use a free ftp server called FileZilla
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/filezilla/" target="_blank">http://sourceforge.net/projects/filezilla/</a> for Win32.

Here is my DL data base have a look.
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://horndog.game-host.org/pafiledb/pafiledb/pafiledb.php" target="_blank">http://horndog.game-host.org/pafiledb/pafiledb/pafiledb.php</a>

Regards,
Stuart<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: pros and cons of htaccess? 

In article <bpiclp$1oo9p3$1@ID-18487.news.uni-berlin.de>,
Davide Bianchi <davideyeahsure.DeleteThis@onlyforfun.net> wrote:

 > bad_knee <bl8n8r.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote:
  > > I'm setting up a website for file transfer
 >
 > "file transfer" ? What happen to FTP?

I guess FTP is not that easy to implement, and many things can interfer
with it (proxy, firewall, nat, ...) and requires a dedicated client.
Using HTTP (port 80) is easier, most of the time.

  > > what are the drawbacks of htaccess?
 >
 > AFAIK none.

enabling htaccess file will slow down Apache, it's really important to
disable it completely if you need real maximum performance.
But here, it's not an issue I guess.

patpro<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: pros and cons of htaccess? 

patpro <patpro RemoveThis @boleskine.patpro.net> wrote:
 > and requires a dedicated client.

??? you can use a normal browser as an FTP client, and a basic
client is present in EVERY Os.

 > enabling htaccess file will slow down Apache

Enabling every kind of user/password authentication will slow down
Apache.

Davide<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: pros and cons of htaccess? 

Davide Bianchi wrote:

 > patpro <patpro.DeleteThis@boleskine.patpro.net> wrote:
 >
  >>and requires a dedicated client.
 >
 > ??? you can use a normal browser as an FTP client, and a basic
 > client is present in EVERY Os.
 >

You obviously don't have to deal with clients that are computer
illiterate... Sometimes it's a task to get them to type in something
like: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://example.com" target="_blank">ftp://example.com</a> or worse yet, <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="ftp://username@example.com" target="_blank">ftp://username@example.com</a>

When it comes to expaining FTP client software - forget it...

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 >> Stay informed about: pros and cons of htaccess? 

bad_knee wrote:

 > Hello,
 > I'm setting up a website for file transfer for a small
 > number of users - about 100. I will need a way for
 > each user to login and see a different list of files
 > depending on who they are.
 >
 > My options are roll my own cgi user/pass main page,
 > or use "htaccess" files. I don't know anything about php
 > other than it looks cool.

Here, this may be of interest to you: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://wafisher.koivi.com/" target="_blank">http://wafisher.koivi.com/</a>
User: file
Pass: upload

It's a PHP/MySQL solution that I have developed for the company I work
for. If you want to learn more, drop me an email.

--
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alt.php* groups are not recommended.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: pros and cons of htaccess? 

Justin Koivisto <spam.TakeThisOut@koivi.com> wrote in message news:<sL4vb.1080$Uz.33541@news7.onvoy.net>...
 > bad_knee wrote:
 >
  > > Hello,
  > > I'm setting up a website for file transfer for a small
  > > number of users - about 100. I will need a way for
  > > each user to login and see a different list of files
  > > depending on who they are.
  > >
  > > My options are roll my own cgi user/pass main page,
  > > or use "htaccess" files. I don't know anything about php
  > > other than it looks cool.
 >
<font color=purple> > Here, this may be of interest to you: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://wafisher.koivi.com/</font" target="_blank">http://wafisher.koivi.com/</font</a>>
 > User: file
 > Pass: upload
 >
 > It's a PHP/MySQL solution that I have developed for the company I work
 > for. If you want to learn more, drop me an email.


Thanks Justin, I just checked it out.
That's a really nice looking interface!

It seems a lot of stuff is php these days.
I should really get this project up-and-running
with the tools I have first, and then learn
some php. Thanks for the email offer. I will
take you up on that when I get into it <!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: pros and cons of htaccess? 

Justin Koivisto <spam.DeleteThis@koivi.com> wrote:
 > You obviously don't have to deal with clients that are computer
 > illiterate...

No, my users aren't "computer illiterate", they are just plain
fscking MORONS! This is why I teached them how to use a browser to
operate on <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://ftp." target="_blank">ftp.</a>

Davide<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: pros and cons of htaccess? 

In article <bpido7$1ocmc6$1@ID-18487.news.uni-berlin.de>,
Davide Bianchi <davideyeahsure.RemoveThis@onlyforfun.net> wrote:

 > patpro <patpro.RemoveThis@boleskine.patpro.net> wrote:
  > > and requires a dedicated client.
 >
 > ??? you can use a normal browser as an FTP client, and a basic
 > client is present in EVERY Os.

and we all know their great quality...


  > > enabling htaccess file will slow down Apache
 >
 > Enabling every kind of user/password authentication will slow down
 > Apache.

I don't even talk about user auth. Just the "AlloOverride ALL" will slow
down Apache. And btw, htaccess is not limited to user auth.

I quote <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://httpd.apache.org/docs/misc/perf-tuning.html#runtime" target="_blank">http://httpd.apache.org/docs/misc/perf-tuning.html#runtime</a> :

------------------------
AllowOverride

Wherever in your URL-space you allow overrides (typically .htaccess
files) Apache will attempt to open .htaccess for each filename
component. For example,

DocumentRoot /www/htdocs
<Directory />
AllowOverride all
</Directory>


and a request is made for the URI /index.html. Then Apache will attempt
to open /.htaccess, /www/.htaccess, and /www/htdocs/.htaccess. The
solutions are similar to the previous case of Options FollowSymLinks.
For highest performance use AllowOverride None everywhere in your
filesystem.

See also the .htaccess tutorial for further discussion of this.
-------------------------



patpro<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: pros and cons of htaccess? 

"HornDog" <powerflow.RemoveThis@comcast.net> wrote in message

<snip>

 >
 > ftp is the only way to go in my opinion. If you get your
 > self a good php download data base program like pafiledb
 > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.phparena.net/" target="_blank">http://www.phparena.net/</a> and link the files to be downloaded
 > to any site you wish. I have mine linked to my ftp on a file by
 > file basses so the client will never see a browser, just a save to
 > screen. You can throttle ftp so you don't use up all your bandwidth
 > on just downloads you can limit number of DL users at one time.
 > you can lock DL if you want. I use a free ftp server called FileZilla
 > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://sourceforge.net/projects/filezilla/" target="_blank">http://sourceforge.net/projects/filezilla/</a> for Win32.
 >
 > Here is my DL data base have a look.
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://horndog.game-host.org/pafiledb/pafiledb/pafiledb.php</font" target="_blank">http://horndog.game-host.org/pafiledb/pafiledb/pafiledb.php</font</a>>
 >
 > Regards,
 > Stuart


I would rather use ftp too, and we have been for a couple years.
A web based interface is easier and more familiar for the majority
of customers however, and unhappy/disgruntled customers are not
conducive to good business.

I like your download page, as well as the one Justin posted. Very
clean looking, and organized.

Maybe I'll just forgo the perl "cgi-lib" stuff, and go read some
php howtos.

Thanks again
bl8n8r<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
 >> Stay informed about: pros and cons of htaccess?