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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 1:50 am
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 1:50 am
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"John Smith" <murph85.DeleteThis@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> You guys say start by creating valid html, i guess im having trouble, what
> is the problem with the website i have created?
Go here and start at the first lesson.
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 2:00 am
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I guess im just confused, what exactly is the problem with my website, could
someone send me a screen shot of what they are seeing cause to me it seems
fine
And thanks for the html lessons but i think i know it pretty well, so if you
could just get to the problem then wed be just fine.
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"John Smith" <murph85 DeleteThis @adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> You guys say start by creating valid html, i guess im having trouble, what
> is the problem with the website i have created?
>
>
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> Webmaster Toolz
> Start - Enhance - Promote - Make Money
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://webmastertoolz.fairmount.nu</font" target="_blank">http://webmastertoolz.fairmount.nu</font</a>>
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 2:00 am
Post subject: Re: im confused [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"John Smith" <murph85.DeleteThis@adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> I guess im just confused, what exactly is the problem with my website,
could
> someone send me a screen shot of what they are seeing cause to me it seems
> fine
>
> And thanks for the html lessons but i think i know it pretty well, so if
you
> could just get to the problem then wed be just fine.
We may be just being a bit hard on ya.
But, if you're going to have a Webmaster related site, you should at least
know how to encode your docs.
The Validator ran and returned: I was not able to extract a character
encoding labeling from any of the valid sources for such information.
Without encoding information it is impossible to validate the document.
Look at the source code from The Validator page..
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
"http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">
You only have:
<html>
<head>
No search engines will find you. No Webmaster in their right mind would pay
attention to your site.
You don't even delineate the type of doc you made other than it's HTML.
This is just the basics, but you invalidate yourself and your site by
missing the basic of the basics.
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 2:22 am
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So all i am missing is?
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
My site doesn't scroll you a mile long? I've created many websites, and I
never knew this, I learned from <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.pagetutor.com" target="_blank">www.pagetutor.com</a> about 5 years ago before
it you had to pay and it never had anything about encoding.
Am i missing anything else I should be aware of?
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"NewzieNewbie" <fubber RemoveThis @yomomma.org> wrote in message
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> "John Smith" <murph85 RemoveThis @adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:12lib.107716$qj6.4046665@news1.news.adelphia.net...
> > I guess im just confused, what exactly is the problem with my website,
> could
> > someone send me a screen shot of what they are seeing cause to me it
seems
> > fine
> >
> > And thanks for the html lessons but i think i know it pretty well, so if
> you
> > could just get to the problem then wed be just fine.
>
> We may be just being a bit hard on ya.
>
> But, if you're going to have a Webmaster related site, you should at least
> know how to encode your docs.
> The Validator ran and returned: I was not able to extract a character
> encoding labeling from any of the valid sources for such information.
> Without encoding information it is impossible to validate the document.
>
> Look at the source code from The Validator page..
> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN"
> "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" xml:lang="en" lang="en">
>
> You only have:
> <html>
> <head>
>
> No search engines will find you. No Webmaster in their right mind would
pay
> attention to your site.
> You don't even delineate the type of doc you made other than it's HTML.
>
> This is just the basics, but you invalidate yourself and your site by
> missing the basic of the basics.
>
> <!--- Rant completed
> going back to football --->
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 2:22 am
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"John Smith" <murph85 RemoveThis @adelphia.net> wrote in message
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> So all i am missing is?
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
>
> My site doesn't scroll you a mile long? I've created many websites, and I
> never knew this, I learned from <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.pagetutor.com" target="_blank">www.pagetutor.com</a> about 5 years ago before
> it you had to pay and it never had anything about encoding.
>
> Am i missing anything else I should be aware of?
Yikes. It's football time and my dinging is still dinging!
> So all i am missing is? !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
This is the point I'm trying to make. W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN ?????
We're on, like, ver 4.01 now
You're taking shortcuts that you learned 5 years ago you didn't have to pay
for.
This stuff changes every 6 months or so. Pagetutor STILL doesn't have good
info.
Take an hour and read.
It's free. I already gave you the link.
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 3:06 am
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>> We're on, like, ver 4.01 now
Where do i find the latest version?
>> You're taking shortcuts that you learned 5 years ago you didn't have to
pay for.
I didn't know I was taking shourtcuts. I want to do things right, and as far
as my mind goes, It thinks im doing things right.
I really appreciate all your help, but how am i supposed to know
what the latest version is, and for that matter on the website you gave me
it says 3.2? Should I replace 3.2 with 4.01? I did look at that website you
sent me im pretty familiar with all the tags, except for meta which it
really doesn't have alot of info on. I'm not trying to be a pain but my
site works, does it not? I'm I really makeing some fatal errors here that i
dont realize?
"NewzieNewbie" <fubber DeleteThis @yomomma.org> wrote in message
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> "John Smith" <murph85 DeleteThis @adelphia.net> wrote in message
> news:Umlib.107722$qj6.4051504@news1.news.adelphia.net...
> > So all i am missing is?
> > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
> >
> > My site doesn't scroll you a mile long? I've created many websites, and
I
> > never knew this, I learned from <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.pagetutor.com" target="_blank">www.pagetutor.com</a> about 5 years ago
before
> > it you had to pay and it never had anything about encoding.
> >
> > Am i missing anything else I should be aware of?
>
> Yikes. It's football time and my dinging is still dinging!
> > So all i am missing is? !DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
>
> This is the point I'm trying to make. W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN ?????
> We're on, like, ver 4.01 now
>
> You're taking shortcuts that you learned 5 years ago you didn't have to
pay
> for.
> This stuff changes every 6 months or so. Pagetutor STILL doesn't have good
> info.
>
> Take an hour and read.
>
> It's free. I already gave you the link.
>
> <!---Tacos, beer, usenet...
> bathroom ---->
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 3:30 am
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In article <Umlib.107722$qj6.4051504@news1.news.adelphia.net>, John
Smith says...
> So all i am missing is?
> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
For starters. Take heed:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.webpageworkshop.co.uk/main/xhtml_basic_page" target="_blank">http://www.webpageworkshop.co.uk/main/xhtml_basic_page</a>
Then:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://validator.w3.org/" target="_blank">http://validator.w3.org/</a> *
> Am i missing anything else I should be aware of?
Tables are for tabular data:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.w3.org/2002/11/homepage" target="_blank">http://www.w3.org/2002/11/homepage</a>
Flashing banner ads are annoying.
Replacing S with Z isn't 1337 anymore.
Your graphics could use a touch up.
* The site in my sig doesn't validate, some sites I've made do. All my
sites use CSS layouts and work nicely in Opera, which is a damn fine
testing browser. While validating sites is highly recommended, I don't
mind as long as they work.
If your site doesn't work, keeping trying to make it validate until it
does. If that makes sense.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 3:44 am
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Hey wow some actual useful help thanks man.
I realize its spelt tools not toolz but that is how its going to be.
Whats wrong with the tables they seem fine to me.
Sorry about the flashy banner ads but i need some way to promote my site and
my 787,150 site ranking in search engines isnt going to help.
"Daniel Ruscoe" <contact.RemoveThis@website.plz> wrote in message
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> In article <Umlib.107722$qj6.4051504@news1.news.adelphia.net>, John
> Smith says...
> > So all i am missing is?
> > <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
>
> For starters. Take heed:
>
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.webpageworkshop.co.uk/main/xhtml_basic_page</font" target="_blank">http://www.webpageworkshop.co.uk/main/xhtml_basic_page</font</a>>
>
> Then:
>
> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://validator.w3.org/" target="_blank">http://validator.w3.org/</a> *
>
> > Am i missing anything else I should be aware of?
>
> Tables are for tabular data:
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.w3.org/2002/11/homepage</font" target="_blank">http://www.w3.org/2002/11/homepage</font</a>>
>
> Flashing banner ads are annoying.
>
> Replacing S with Z isn't 1337 anymore.
>
> Your graphics could use a touch up.
>
>
> * The site in my sig doesn't validate, some sites I've made do. All my
> sites use CSS layouts and work nicely in Opera, which is a damn fine
> testing browser. While validating sites is highly recommended, I don't
> mind as long as they work.
>
> If your site doesn't work, keeping trying to make it validate until it
> does. If that makes sense.
>
> --
> Daniel Ruscoe
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.dannyruscoe.co.uk</font" target="_blank">http://www.dannyruscoe.co.uk</font</a>>
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 4:29 am
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John Smith wrote:
> I guess im just confused, what exactly is the problem with my
> website,
o Tools not Toolz
o Section headings need appropriate markup <hn>...
o presentational markup - there is nothing on your page which needs tables
for presentation.
please take 5 minutes to consider/research the following:
o It is not necessary to start a new thread
o Changing the subject screws with the archive threading algo
o Top-posting is difficult to read
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 9:47 am
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On Sun, 12 Oct 2003 22:50:00 GMT "John Smith" <murph85 DeleteThis @adelphia.net>
broke off from drinking a cup of tea at the loony bin to write:
>You guys say start by creating valid html, i guess im having trouble, what
>is the problem with the website i have created?
>
There isn't one (other than for pedants).
It works in Lynx, and it works in IE. I'm a human being, so I should
be more concerned about words like "unuseful", than whether or not the
site "validates".
Matt
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