Keep page in frameset

"Neut David" <neutje.TakeThisOut@neutje.be> wrote in message
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 > Hi,
 >
 > is it possible to let a page stay in the frameset,
 > so when a single page is loaded, the whole frameset is
loaded
 >
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Bill Logan wrote:

 > yes

I was about to tell him "No." Either we understood the question
differently, or one of us doesn't consider a JavaScript-dependent
solution a real solution, or the other one of us knows something that
the first one of us didn't think of.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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While sitting in a puddle Scott Bryce scribbled in the mud:

 > Bill Logan wrote:
 >
  >> yes
 >
 > I was about to tell him "No." Either we understood the question
 > differently, or one of us doesn't consider a JavaScript-dependent
 > solution a real solution, or the other one of us knows something that
 > the first one of us didn't think of.
 >
 >

With talk like that you should go into politics.

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"Scott Bryce" <sbryce DeleteThis @scottbryce.com> wrote in message
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 > Bill Logan wrote:
 >
  > > yes
 >
 > I was about to tell him "No." Either we understood the
question
 > differently, or one of us doesn't consider a
JavaScript-dependent
 > solution a real solution, or the other one of us knows
something that
 > the first one of us didn't think of.
Or both of us are going around in circles until we disappear
up the fundamental!

I was not aware JS was involved ?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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Bill Logan wrote:

 > I was not aware JS was involved ?

If I understood the question, the OP has a particular web page that he
only wants displayed inside of a frameset. He wants some way to insure
that if someone links to that page directly, the entire frameset will
display. This can be done with JavaScript.

It appears that you have a better server-side solution. I have a funny
feeling .htaccess is involved. Having no personal experience with
..htaccess, it is a solution I wouldn't think of.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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where do i find this javascript?

"Scott Bryce" <sbryce RemoveThis @scottbryce.com> schreef in bericht
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 > Bill Logan wrote:
 >
  > > I was not aware JS was involved ?
 >
 > If I understood the question, the OP has a particular web page that he
 > only wants displayed inside of a frameset. He wants some way to insure
 > that if someone links to that page directly, the entire frameset will
 > display. This can be done with JavaScript.
 >
 > It appears that you have a better server-side solution. I have a funny
 > feeling .htaccess is involved. Having no personal experience with
 > .htaccess, it is a solution I wouldn't think of.
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Duende wrote:
 > While sitting in a puddle Scott Bryce scribbled in the mud:
 >
  >> Bill Logan wrote:
  >>
   >>> yes
  >>
  >> I was about to tell him "No." Either we understood the question
  >> differently, or one of us doesn't consider a JavaScript-dependent
  >> solution a real solution, or the other one of us knows something that
  >> the first one of us didn't think of.
 >
 > With talk like that you should go into politics.

or systems/business analysis.

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Neut David wrote:
 > Hi,

Hello

 > is it possible to let a page stay in the frameset,

don't use frames - they make your hair fall out and your tinkie will shrivel
up.

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"Scott Bryce" <sbryce DeleteThis @scottbryce.com> wrote in message
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 > Bill Logan wrote:
 >
  > > I was not aware JS was involved ?
 >
 > If I understood the question, the OP has a particular web
page that he
 > only wants displayed inside of a frameset. He wants some
way to insure
 > that if someone links to that page directly, the entire
frameset will
 > display. This can be done with JavaScript.
 >
 > It appears that you have a better server-side solution. I
have a funny
 > feeling .htaccess is involved. Having no personal
experience with
 > .htaccess, it is a solution I wouldn't think of.

..htaccess is one way - I would be more inclined to use an
alias in the httpd.conf, e.g.
alias pagename.html NameOfFrameSetPage
assuming the NameOfFrameSetPage contains the required
pagename.html in the required frame.

That is, if what you think the OP wants is what the OP
wants:-)
If what the OP wants is not what you think the OP wants then
perhaps the OP oughta tell us in a bit more detail (<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"Bill Logan" <who DeleteThis @what.com> wrote in message news:4095e8af$1@clear.net.nz...
 >
 > "Scott Bryce" <sbryce DeleteThis @scottbryce.com> wrote in message
 > news:109bk60jkq81nd1@corp.supernews.com...
  > > Bill Logan wrote:
  > >
   > > > I was not aware JS was involved ?
  > >
  > > If I understood the question, the OP has a particular web
 > page that he
  > > only wants displayed inside of a frameset. He wants some
 > way to insure
  > > that if someone links to that page directly, the entire
 > frameset will
  > > display. This can be done with JavaScript.
  > >
  > > It appears that you have a better server-side solution. I
 > have a funny
  > > feeling .htaccess is involved. Having no personal
 > experience with
  > > .htaccess, it is a solution I wouldn't think of.
 >
 > .htaccess is one way - I would be more inclined to use an
 > alias in the httpd.conf, e.g.
 > alias pagename.html NameOfFrameSetPage
 > assuming the NameOfFrameSetPage contains the required
 > pagename.html in the required frame.
 >
 > That is, if what you think the OP wants is what the OP
 > wants:-)
 > If what the OP wants is not what you think the OP wants then
 > perhaps the OP oughta tell us in a bit more detail (


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On Mon, 3 May 2004 18:39:20 +1200, Bill Logan <who RemoveThis @what.com> wrote:

  >> It appears that you have a better server-side solution. I
 > have a funny
  >> feeling .htaccess is involved. Having no personal
 > experience with
  >> .htaccess, it is a solution I wouldn't think of.
 >
 > .htaccess is one way - I would be more inclined to use an
 > alias in the httpd.conf, e.g.
 > alias pagename.html NameOfFrameSetPage
 > assuming the NameOfFrameSetPage contains the required
 > pagename.html in the required frame.

Because HTML is stateless, how can you tell the difference between a call
to pagename.html from the address bar or external link, and a call to the
same page from the frameset? That sort of Alias would be an endless loop.

I'm actually quite interested in seeing a working httpd.conf solution
which can detect whether or not a page is loading in frames on the client
side. Go ahead, Bill. Let's see your magic.

Grey

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"Neut David" <neutje DeleteThis @neutje.be> wrote in news:c747v9$hb3$1@reader13.wxs.nl:

 > Hi,
 >
 > is it possible to let a page stay in the frameset,
 > so when a single page is loaded, the whole frameset is loaded
 >

Set the target attribute in your link to one of these:

"_blank" The browser should load the page in a new, unnamed window.

"_self" The browser should load the document in the same frame.

"_parent" The browser should load the document into the immediate FRAMESET
parent of the current frame. This value is equivalent to _self if the
current frame has no parent.

"_top" The browser should load the document into the full, original window
(thus canceling all other frames). This value is equivalent to _self if the
current frame has no parent.

Hope that helps

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Neut David wrote:

 > where do i find this javascript?

I do very little JavaScript anymore. I really don't want to take the
time to work it out. Someone who is JavaScript proficient could probably
write it very quickly off the top of his head. Perhaps you could ask in
a JavaScript newsgroup. It would be a single line in the OnLoad event in
the body tag of the page that must be in the frame. It would be similar
to a break frames script.

Keep in mind that a JavaScript solutions are not bullet proof.


OK, I did a quick Google search and found the code below. I think it
will do what you want. Replace 'index.html' with the page that defines
the frame set.


<script language="Javascript">
<!--
if (top.location == self.location) {

top.location = 'index.html'

}
//-->
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