How to know I have a good webhost

> > What is the best webhost out there? Also what should I be looking
> > for?

you can try to find it in some reviews like
http://www.web-page-hosting-review.com/

and read articles on this site
"Choosing the Type of Host Best Suited for Your Needs"
"Searching around for a web site hosting company?"
.......
 >> Stay informed about: How to know I have a good webhost 

"Incon" <chuckie72406.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1162816046.654714.325470@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> Okay so I have come a long way and i working towards completion of my
> site and I am looking for a good host. I am trying to be careful about
> who I go with because if I am going to pay for anything it had better
> be worth it. What is the best webhost out there? Also what should I be
> looking for? What is the average needed space for a medium sized site.
> I have a chatroom several forms and a message board, and several basic
> pages.
> Thanks

Head over to webhostingtalk.com and ask for suggestions.

--Tina
 >> Stay informed about: How to know I have a good webhost 

"Tina Peters" <tina RemoveThis @axishost.com> writes:

> "Incon" <chuckie72406 RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1162816046.654714.325470@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
> > Okay so I have come a long way and i working towards completion of my
> > site and I am looking for a good host. I am trying to be careful about
> > who I go with because if I am going to pay for anything it had better
> > be worth it. What is the best webhost out there? Also what should I be
> > looking for? What is the average needed space for a medium sized site.
> > I have a chatroom several forms and a message board, and several basic
> > pages.
> > Thanks
>
> Head over to webhostingtalk.com and ask for suggestions.
>
> --Tina

And always remember that even if you are lucky enough find a good
webhost today, you must prepare for the following:

a) the current owners sell the operation to a bunch of idiots
while glowingly reassuring you that the new overlords are
swell and grand. Then suddenly you're down hard for 4
days.

b) The owner dies a premature death. Utter chaos ensues
including downtime with no end in sight. His widow is
finally is able to get things stabilized months later.

c) Owner becomes ill, is hospitalized, no one does accounts
receivable or invoices folks for renewal, and one day your
servers quit responding and you find out on
webhostingtalk.com that it's because they weren't able to
pay their bills and are now out of business.

Welcome to the story of my 3 prior webhosts.

For 1000 bonus points and a free oven mitt, can you name them?

Best Regards,
--
Todd H.
http://www.toddh.net/
 >> Stay informed about: How to know I have a good webhost 

On 6 Nov 2006 04:27:26 -0800, "Incon" <chuckie72406 RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote:

>Okay so I have come a long way and i working towards completion of my
>site and I am looking for a good host. I am trying to be careful about
>who I go with because if I am going to pay for anything it had better
>be worth it. What is the best webhost out there? Also what should I be
>looking for? What is the average needed space for a medium sized site.
>I have a chatroom several forms and a message board, and several basic
>pages.
>Thanks
>

Are you serious? You are seriously asking "what is the best webhost?"

Have you heard of Netcraft?

Matt


--
Woe to him that willfully innovates, while ignorant of the constant.
http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com
 >> Stay informed about: How to know I have a good webhost 

Todd H. wrote:

> For 1000 bonus points and a free oven mitt, can you name them?

AH, Your-site.com, MIS.

Except for the last on that list, *none* of them could have been
avoided. The first is merely how businesses in the real world operate
(there's no reason why a business shouldn't sell up if the owner wants
to), and in the second you certainly cannot /blame/ anyone. The last one
on the list could be put down to incompetence, but no one here knows the
whole story either.

--
Dylan Parry
http://electricfreedom.org | http://webpageworkshop.co.uk

Programming, n: A pastime similar to banging one's head
against a wall, but with fewer opportunities for reward.
 >> Stay informed about: How to know I have a good webhost 

Dylan Parry <usenet RemoveThis @dylanparry.com> writes:

> Todd H. wrote:
>
> > For 1000 bonus points and a free oven mitt, can you name them?
>
> AH, Your-site.com, MIS.


We have a winner!

> Except for the last on that list, *none* of them could have been
> avoided. The first is merely how businesses in the real world operate
> (there's no reason why a business shouldn't sell up if the owner wants
> to), and in the second you certainly cannot /blame/ anyone. The last one
> on the list could be put down to incompetence, but no one here knows the
> whole story either.

Agreed.

But it is a story that leads me to gravitating to hosting operations
that have an organization that is large enough to be independent of
the grand poohba falling out of the picture, and large enough that a
new owner wouldn't completely screw the pooch so quickly.

It's all a necessary evil of the hosting industry and what makes this
question such a moving target and a pain in the ass to deal with.

--
Todd H.
http://www.toddh.net/
 >> Stay informed about: How to know I have a good webhost 

"Tina Peters" <tina.DeleteThis@axishost.com> writes:

> Ahh, then whatcha bitching about?

I'm not really bitching except to lament that webhosting ain't
anywhere near the reliability we expect of things like, say, the POTS
telephone.

Yet, depending on your package, it costs just as much.


--
Todd H.
http://www.toddh.net/
 >> Stay informed about: How to know I have a good webhost 

Hi Tina -

On Mon, 6 Nov 2006 20:13:02 -0500, "Tina Peters" <tina DeleteThis @axishost.com>
wrote:

>"Alex" <tuchasoffentisch DeleteThis @_NO_SPAM_gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:N0R3h.3600$r12.289@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com...
>
>> For that matter, what about having the first two DNS settings point to one
>> server, and the next pair pointing to another? Would that allow visitors
>> to see your secondary site if the main one went offline?
>
>It doesn't quite work that way. If you had 2 sets of DNS (one pointing to
>one server and the other pointing to another server) - visitors would
>randomly get one or the other server. So, if the first server went offline
>your visitor would have about a 50/50 chance of not being able to reach your
>site.

With round-robin DNS, multiple IP addresses are returned. If the
client program is smart enough, it will try each of the addresses in
order until one works.

Since the order of the IP addresses is rotated by the name server on
each retrieval (that's why it's call "round-robin"), round-robin DNS
provides a crude version of load balancing as well as a crude version
of failover.

Of course all of this is contingent on using name servers that provide
the capability to return multiple IP addresses, preferably in a
round-robin fashion.

--
Ken
http://www.kensims.net/
 >> Stay informed about: How to know I have a good webhost 

"Matt Probert" <www RemoveThis @probertencyclopaedia.com> wrote in message
news:45506e0e.16791656@news.madasafish.com...
> On Mon, 6 Nov 2006 15:27:20 -0500, "Tina Peters" <tina RemoveThis @axishost.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>It seems to me that people bitching about their providers going down the
>>tubes haven't done enough to put a contingency plan in place. They'd
>>rather
>>sit with their thumbs up their butts or cry about how awful their host is
>>than get up and do something about it. If you take regular backups of
>>your
>>data, know how to update your domain name DNS/nameservers and know which
>>hosts have decent reputations - it shouldn't take you more than an hour to
>>migrate elsewhere.
>>
>
> Oooh!
>
> Welcome back, Tina <g>
>
> Those (very few) of us with a dedicated server are in a slightly
> different boat. But then we pay a lot more for what we hope will be a
> higher quality service....
>
> Okay, so blind faith isn't just for the religious! <bg>
>
> Matt

Even with a dedicated server, you should still have a contingency plan (you
know this, of course) should your server blow up.

--Tina
 >> Stay informed about: How to know I have a good webhost 

On Mon, 6 Nov 2006 15:27:20 -0500, "Tina Peters" <tina.RemoveThis@axishost.com>
wrote:

>
>It seems to me that people bitching about their providers going down the
>tubes haven't done enough to put a contingency plan in place. They'd rather
>sit with their thumbs up their butts or cry about how awful their host is
>than get up and do something about it. If you take regular backups of your
>data, know how to update your domain name DNS/nameservers and know which
>hosts have decent reputations - it shouldn't take you more than an hour to
>migrate elsewhere.
>

Oooh!

Welcome back, Tina <g>

Those (very few) of us with a dedicated server are in a slightly
different boat. But then we pay a lot more for what we hope will be a
higher quality service....

Okay, so blind faith isn't just for the religious! <bg>

Matt


--
Woe to him that willfully innovates, while ignorant of the constant.
http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com
 >> Stay informed about: How to know I have a good webhost 

On Tue, 7 Nov 2006 06:42:01 -0500, Tina Peters put finger to keyboard
and typed:

>"Matt Probert" <www DeleteThis @probertencyclopaedia.com> wrote in message
>news:45506e0e.16791656@news.madasafish.com...
>>
>> Those (very few) of us with a dedicated server are in a slightly
>> different boat. But then we pay a lot more for what we hope will be a
>> higher quality service....
>
>Even with a dedicated server, you should still have a contingency plan (you
>know this, of course) should your server blow up.

Or your hosting company blows up.

Mark
--
Blog: http://mark.goodge.co.uk Photos: http://www.goodge.co.uk
"Wherever life may take me, I know that it won't break me"
 >> Stay informed about: How to know I have a good webhost 

Ken Sims wrote

> round-robin DNS
> provides a crude version of load balancing

What would be a better version? The simplicity of round-robin DNS appeals
to me.

--
Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com
 >> Stay informed about: How to know I have a good webhost 

On 12 Nov 2006 20:09:33 GMT, Charles Sweeney put finger to keyboard
and typed:

>Ken Sims wrote
>
>> round-robin DNS
>> provides a crude version of load balancing
>
>What would be a better version? The simplicity of round-robin DNS appeals
>to me.

The more sophisticated way is to use a load-balancing router in front
of a server farm. The advantage of such a setup is that you can add
and remove servers without needing a DNS change (and hence the
propagation delay); a typical load-balancing setup will be configured
to allow individual servers to be enabled and disabled at the flick of
a switch. Add a multihomed Internet connection and you've got as close
to full redundancy as a single site possibly can have.

Having said that, there's nothing wrong with round-robin DNS for
simple load balancing when you don't need that kind of sophistication.
Simpler is better if you don't need complexity; more complex is only
better if the additional sophistication is actually going to be of
significant benefit.

Mark
--
Please give me one! http://www.pleasegivemeone.com
"Save me from the nothing I’ve become"
 >> Stay informed about: How to know I have a good webhost