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In alt.html William Tasso <ngx DeleteThis @tbdata.com> wrote:

 > Just been wondering - you know how it is when you stare at a problem for too
 > long - is there anything in a relevant spec or common usage which would
 > prevent a URL having more than one dot? for example:
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.example.com/test.file.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.example.com/test.file.html</font</a>>

Nope.

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William Tasso wrote:

 > Just been wondering - you know how it is when you stare at a problem for
 > too long - is there anything in a relevant spec or common usage which
 > would prevent a URL having more than one dot? for example:
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.example.com/test.file.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.example.com/test.file.html</font</a>>

No, its perfectly acceptable. <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://david.us-lot.org/tmp/this.that.the.txt" target="_blank">http://david.us-lot.org/tmp/this.that.the.txt</a>

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On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 22:06:35 +0100, William Tasso wrote:

 > Just been wondering - you know how it is when you stare at a problem for too
 > long - is there anything in a relevant spec or common usage which would
 > prevent a URL having more than one dot?

No, in fact, it's quite common to have more than one dot. Let's look
around a made up site for Example Inc's latest piece of software...

Language negotiation with Apache:

  http://www.example.org/docs/index.html.en (English documentation)
  http://www.example.org/docs/index.html.fr (French documentation)
  http://www.example.org/docs/index.html (Auto-detect language)


Downloads often include dots in version numbers:

  http://www.example.org/downloads/windows/foobar-1.2.1.zip


Common Unix archive formats often have multiple dots in the file extension:

  http://www.example.org/downloads/linux/foobar-1.2.1.tar.gz
  http://www.example.org/downloads/linux/foobar-1.2.1.i386.rpm
  http://www.example.org/downloads/linux/foobar-1.2.1.src.rpm

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Toby A Inkster wrote:
 > On Sat, 02 Aug 2003 22:06:35 +0100, William Tasso wrote:
 >
  >> ... is there anything in a relevant spec or common usage
  >> which would prevent a URL having more than one dot?
 >
 > No, in fact, it's quite common to have more than one dot. ...
 >

Thanks all

I know it works on my set up - just wanted to be sure it was legit.

/continues going dotty ...............

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In article <vioaaa5rm0376.RemoveThis@corp.supernews.com>, tina.RemoveThis@affordablehost.com
says...
 > "William Tasso" <ngx.RemoveThis@tbdata.com> wrote in message
 > news:bgh8vu$numij$1@ID-139074.news.uni-berlin.de...
  > >
  > > Just been wondering - you know how it is when you stare at a problem for
 > too
  > > long - is there anything in a relevant spec or common usage which would
  > > prevent a URL having more than one dot? for example:
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.example.com/test.file.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.example.com/test.file.html</font</a>>
  > >
 > Probably because the server isn't setup to recognize that as a valid file
 > extension.
 >
Your servers seem to be happy enough with eg :

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://porjes.com/one.x.y.z...html" target="_blank">http://porjes.com/one.x.y.z...html</a>

(with no htaccess changes at all - that works 'right out of the box')

However, I failed to get 'porjes.com/well......blimey' to be recognised
as html even with .htaccess frigging - perhaps brucie or Mr Dorward (or
whoever) would tell us the .htaccess magic required for that?

Of course the truth, as I've slowly come to understand, is that a
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Jacqui or (maybe) Pete wrote:
 > In article <vioaaa5rm0376.RemoveThis@corp.supernews.com>, tina.RemoveThis@affordablehost.com
 > says...
  >> "William Tasso" <ngx.RemoveThis@tbdata.com> wrote in message
  >> news:bgh8vu$numij$1@ID-139074.news.uni-berlin.de...
   >>>
   >>> Just been wondering - you know how it is when you stare at a
   >>> problem for too long - is there anything in a relevant spec or
   >>> common usage which would prevent a URL having more than one dot?
<font color=brown>   >>> for example: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.example.com/test.file.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.example.com/test.file.html</font</a>>
   >>>
  >> Probably because the server isn't setup to recognize that as a valid
  >> file extension.
  >>
 > Your servers seem to be happy enough with eg :
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://porjes.com/one.x.y.z...html</font" target="_blank">http://porjes.com/one.x.y.z...html</font</a>>
 >
 > (with no htaccess changes at all - that works 'right out of the box')
 >
although Mozilla (1.3.1) gets bent out of shape.
Source:
<html><body></body></html>

 > Of course the truth, as I've slowly come to understand, is that a
 > webserver program can interpret (what look like) path and file names
 > in any way it pleases.

the web server does seem to be the key - probably because it has to interact
with the server file system.

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In alt.html Tina - AffordableHOST.com <tina.TakeThisOut@affordablehost.com> wrote:

 > Probably because the server isn't setup to recognize that as a valid file
 > extension.

Do you know of a server that cares about "valid" file extensions? Which
server software is it that does that?

Inquiring minds want to know!

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In alt.html William Tasso <ngx.RemoveThis@tbdata.com> wrote:

<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://porjes.com/one.x.y.z...html</font" target="_blank">http://porjes.com/one.x.y.z...html</font</a>>
  >>
  >> (with no htaccess changes at all - that works 'right out of the box')
  >>
 > although Mozilla (1.3.1) gets bent out of shape.
 > Source:
 > <html><body></body></html>

Mozilla 1.4/Linux found a custom 404 document at that URL, but seemed
happy enough to display it.

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In article <bghgvt$onagt$1@ID-139074.news.uni-berlin.de>, ngx.TakeThisOut@tbdata.com
says...
 > Jacqui or (maybe) Pete wrote:
  > > In article <vioaaa5rm0376.TakeThisOut@corp.supernews.com>, tina.TakeThisOut@affordablehost.com
  > > says...
   > >> "William Tasso" <ngx.TakeThisOut@tbdata.com> wrote in message
   > >> news:bgh8vu$numij$1@ID-139074.news.uni-berlin.de...
   > >>>
   > >>> Just been wondering - you know how it is when you stare at a
   > >>> problem for too long - is there anything in a relevant spec or
   > >>> common usage which would prevent a URL having more than one dot?
<font color=brown>   > >>> for example: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.example.com/test.file.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.example.com/test.file.html</font</a>>
....
  > >
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://porjes.com/one.x.y.z...html</font" target="_blank">http://porjes.com/one.x.y.z...html</font</a>>
  > >
....
 > although Mozilla (1.3.1) gets bent out of shape.
 > Source:
 > <html><body></body></html>
 >
OK, I'm lost. Works fine for me in all browsers. Works on other servers,
too, eg:

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://porjes.haxorz.org/one.x.y.z...html" target="_blank">http://porjes.haxorz.org/one.x.y.z...html</a>

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In article <bgi11c0llr RemoveThis @enews3.newsguy.com>, usenet200301 RemoveThis @artsackett.com
says...
 > In alt.html William Tasso <ngx RemoveThis @tbdata.com> wrote:
 >
<font color=brown>   > >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://porjes.com/one.x.y.z...html</font" target="_blank">http://porjes.com/one.x.y.z...html</font</a>>
   > >>
   > >> (with no htaccess changes at all - that works 'right out of the box')
   > >>
  > > although Mozilla (1.3.1) gets bent out of shape.
  > > Source:
  > > <html><body></body></html>
 >
 > Mozilla 1.4/Linux found a custom 404 document at that URL, but seemed
 > happy enough to display it.
 >
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"William Tasso" <ngx RemoveThis @tbdata.com> wrote in message
news:bgh8vu$numij$1@ID-139074.news.uni-berlin.de...
 > Hello one and all
 >
 > Just been wondering - you know how it is when you stare at a problem for
too
 > long - is there anything in a relevant spec or common usage which would
 > prevent a URL having more than one dot? for example:
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.example.com/test.file.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.example.com/test.file.html</font</a>>
 >
A useful, if simplistic definition of legal urls but with links to
authoritative (official?) standards
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://webtips.dantobias.com/url.html" target="_blank">http://webtips.dantobias.com/url.html</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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"Bill Logan" <blogan DeleteThis @clear.net.nz> wrote in message
news:3f2c3865$1@clear.net.nz...
 >
 > "William Tasso" <ngx DeleteThis @tbdata.com> wrote in message
 > news:bgh8vu$numij$1@ID-139074.news.uni-berlin.de...
  > > Hello one and all
  > >
  > > Just been wondering - you know how it is when you stare at a problem for
 > too
  > > long - is there anything in a relevant spec or common usage which would
  > > prevent a URL having more than one dot? for example:
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.example.com/test.file.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.example.com/test.file.html</font</a>>
  > >
 > A useful, if simplistic definition of legal urls but with links to
 > authoritative (official?) standards
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://webtips.dantobias.com/url.html</font" target="_blank">http://webtips.dantobias.com/url.html</font</a>>
 >
Sorry William, should have mentioned,
Scroll down to the bottom of the linked page above to get direct to the
example stuff.

The dot notation in an URL or uri is used to separate labels. e.g.
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://subdomain.mydomain.com" target="_blank">http://subdomain.mydomain.com</a>
in this case level 3, 2 and 1 in the domain list.

In some instances dots in the path part of the url as in
/mydir1/my.file.html
will be stripped by some applications to read /mydir1/myfile.html or
/mydir1/my/file.html

So probably best to avoid - ie rename the file

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"Bill Logan" <blogan.DeleteThis@clear.net.nz> wrote in message
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 > "Bill Logan" <blogan.DeleteThis@clear.net.nz> wrote in message
 > news:3f2c3865$1@clear.net.nz...
  > >
  > > "William Tasso" <ngx.DeleteThis@tbdata.com> wrote in message
  > > news:bgh8vu$numij$1@ID-139074.news.uni-berlin.de...
   > > > Hello one and all
   > > >
   > > > Just been wondering - you know how it is when you stare at a problem
for
  > > too
   > > > long - is there anything in a relevant spec or common usage which
would
   > > > prevent a URL having more than one dot? for example:
<font color=brown>   > > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.example.com/test.file.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.example.com/test.file.html</font</a>>
   > > >
  > > A useful, if simplistic definition of legal urls but with links to
  > > authoritative (official?) standards
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://webtips.dantobias.com/url.html</font" target="_blank">http://webtips.dantobias.com/url.html</font</a>>
  > >
 > Sorry William, should have mentioned,
 > Scroll down to the bottom of the linked page above to get direct to the
 > example stuff.
 >
 > The dot notation in an URL or uri is used to separate labels. e.g.
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://subdomain.mydomain.com</font" target="_blank">http://subdomain.mydomain.com</font</a>>
 > in this case level 3, 2 and 1 in the domain list.
 >
 > In some instances dots in the path part of the url as in
 > /mydir1/my.file.html
 > will be stripped by some applications to read /mydir1/myfile.html or
 > /mydir1/my/file.html
 >
 > So probably best to avoid - ie rename the file
 >
 > Also it is interesting to note that the dot is an 'unreserved' character.
 >
Not my day
multiple dots will also work in the filename so they will work as separators
of the labels, in the file name but not necessarily in the path or the host
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