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Since: Dec 29, 2003 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 3:25 pm
Post subject: ecommerce question Archived from groups: biz>ecommerce, others (more info?)
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I have a question: let's say that I have an idea of a website that I
want to create, and I'd like to make some money on it. If I go to some
website company and ask them to create this website for me, can they
seal or use my idea and create their own website with my idea?
I don't know how it work, but say that I'll put the credit card
transaction window in my site, is it going to be enough to assure an
income?
How can I personally take care of my website? If the company will always
have access to my website for maintenance and stuff, is it going to be
safe for me? How these things work?
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Since: Oct 09, 2003 Posts: 15
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 3:09 am
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2003 12:25:51 -0600, "Sassi" <sasassi RemoveThis @hotmail.com>
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>I have a question: let's say that I have an idea of a website that I
>want to create, and I'd like to make some money on it. If I go to some
>website company and ask them to create this website for me, can they
>seal or use my idea and create their own website with my idea?
Why would I? I'm in the web development business, not whatever
business you are in.
I'm sure there are dishonest developers out there. I've never met
one, but of course I can't speak for all.
It's a matter of trust. Find a company you trust to deal fairly with
you, and then you deal fairly with them.
If you run a business, and you have a bookkeeper, do you expect that
your bookkeeper will try to "steal" your business idea and compete
with you? Probably not.
And to be brutally frank, I would sincerely doubt that you have an
idea for a site that is so completely original that it hasn't already
been tried before, with varying rates of success. Just building a
site (whether you build it yourself or hire a professional) isn't
going to generate any income.
>I don't know how it work, but say that I'll put the credit card
>transaction window in my site, is it going to be enough to assure an
>income?
Not a chance. See above.
How do you intend to market the site? How do you intend to market the
product or service?
Think: do you surf the Internet just looking for places to spend
money?
What are you offering? Is there a real market for it? Have you
priced it appropriately?
>How can I personally take care of my website?
Depends. You can have the developer build you a content management
system. If the site is not too complex, you can have the developer
use something like Macromedia's Contribute (a very simple content
management system). Or you can hire the developer on a maintenance
contract to update the site.
Or a mix of these -- when I create an e-comemrce site for a client,
generaly the store itself is completely maintained by the client (they
manage the product listings, orders, etc.). But I update the rest on
a maintenance agreement, because it doesn't change that often.
> If the company will always
>have access to my website for maintenance and stuff, is it going to be
>safe for me? How these things work?
Again, it's a matter or trust, and choosing an ethical developer.
When I register a comain for a client, I immediately forward the
username and password information on the domain registration to the
client. I keep a record myself, because usually the client wants me
to manage the domain. But they have the information, should they want
to do it themselves, or hire another developer down the road.
When I set up a hosting contract for a client, I immediately forward
the username and password information to them on the site account and
on any email accounts I'm asked to create. Same deal -- I keep a
record, because generally I'm the one doing the maintenance and
troubleshooting down the road. But the client ALWAYS has the
information should they need it.
<rant> I can't tell you how many clients I've rescued from the
situation where they didn't have the domain registration or hosting
username and password, and therefore didn't have control over their
own domains! If you have the developer set up the domain and hosting,
MAKE SURE you get the usernames and passwords! </rant>
Unfortunately, it's frequently a matter of you get what you pay for.
Hire a cheap developer, and you'll usually get crummy service. Spend
a little more for your own peace of mind and the safety and security
of your busines.
Win
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Win Day, Multimedia Developer
Words Plus
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Since: Dec 29, 2003 Posts: 2
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 2:39 am
Post subject: Re: ecommerce question [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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thanks for the reply,
> And to be brutally frank, I would sincerely doubt that you have an
> idea for a site that is so completely original that it hasn't already...
I've already made a market research and I didn't find anything in the
web similar to what I want to propose. All I need to do it's to
advertise my webiste in the right manner, and I intend to invest a good
amount of money in this direction if it's worth.
I know that it's not enough the credit card transaction box... I didn't
mean that, in fact what I really need is to advertise it.
A question, do u know what are the price rates say if I want to buy a
banner in google, altavista or some major websites like travelocity,
MSN?
thanks
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Since: Dec 08, 2003 Posts: 11
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 3:42 am
Post subject: Re: ecommerce question [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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I agree with previous poster, if you find a decent web
designer/developer he or she will most likely not even be interested
in the business you are in. Most good developers are really only
interested at the contract at hand.
I believe that the whole "stealing of ideas" is a common fallacy that
a beginning entrepreneur makes. It should be remembered that if you
can do this idea that "anyone" else can do it (barring legal patents,
etc.). Ideas are a dime a dozen; customers is what's really
important.
<sidenote>
My memory is a little bit foggy, but I read a study at a University
asking business school students and experienced business owners the
following question: "What is the most important aspect of a starting
business?"
70%+ business school students said that the product or service was the
most important whereas most experienced people said customers.
</sidenote>
As for the cost of advertisements, check out Google's Adwords...they
don't really banners, but they do run relevent textual ads aimed at
keywords. Pricing depends on how popular the keywords you want to
use. The more common or popular the phase, the more competitive and
expensive it is. Google charges on a per-click basis, meaning that
you pay for each click through to your website. So that you don't
burn through your entire bankroll, you specify how much your daily
maximum budget. (e.g. $20 per day)
Go to <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://adwords.google.com" target="_blank">http://adwords.google.com</a> for more information.
Regards,
Walter Weeks
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Walter Weeks
Provantek, Inc.
walter at provantek.com
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"Sassi" <sasassi.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:<28o4vvsj8ib71n8cbb33e2es61bcb8gvr3.RemoveThis@4ax.com>...
> thanks for the reply,
>
> > And to be brutally frank, I would sincerely doubt that you have an
> > idea for a site that is so completely original that it hasn't already...
>
> I've already made a market research and I didn't find anything in the
> web similar to what I want to propose. All I need to do it's to
> advertise my webiste in the right manner, and I intend to invest a good
> amount of money in this direction if it's worth.
> I know that it's not enough the credit card transaction box... I didn't
> mean that, in fact what I really need is to advertise it.
> A question, do u know what are the price rates say if I want to buy a
> banner in google, altavista or some major websites like travelocity,
> MSN?
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Since: Jan 02, 2004 Posts: 7
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 3:24 pm
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Before considering adword or any PPC search engine, I would recommend
going to an SEO (Search Engine Optimizer) and make sure that the copy
content of the site fits criterias for different search engines and
that the design of the site is mostly non-graphical.
Adword is fine although why pay for traffic when you can get some free
one for on a continuous basis just by optimizing your site?
> As for the cost of advertisements, check out Google's Adwords...they
> don't really banners, but they do run relevent textual ads aimed at
> keywords. Pricing depends on how popular the keywords you want to
> use. The more common or popular the phase, the more competitive and
> expensive it is. Google charges on a per-click basis, meaning that
> you pay for each click through to your website. So that you don't
> burn through your entire bankroll, you specify how much your daily
> maximum budget. (e.g. $20 per day)
>
> Go to <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://adwords.google.com" target="_blank">http://adwords.google.com</a> for more information.
>
>
> Regards,
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Since: Jan 02, 2004 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 10:55 pm
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We had the company we worked with sign a no compete agreement. They had no
problem with signing it.
The company we used was <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.hitnet.com" target="_blank">www.hitnet.com</a>
I hope this helps.
If a company wont sign a no compete, DON"T USE THEM.
"Sassi" <sasassi RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I have a question: let's say that I have an idea of a website that I
> want to create, and I'd like to make some money on it. If I go to some
> website company and ask them to create this website for me, can they
> seal or use my idea and create their own website with my idea?
> I don't know how it work, but say that I'll put the credit card
> transaction window in my site, is it going to be enough to assure an
> income?
> How can I personally take care of my website? If the company will always
> have access to my website for maintenance and stuff, is it going to be
> safe for me? How these things work?
>
>
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Since: Jul 05, 2003 Posts: 258
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 11:26 pm
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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 12:24:15 -0600, pa RemoveThis @itesi.com (PA) wrote:
>Before considering adword or any PPC search engine, I would recommend
>going to an SEO (Search Engine Optimizer) and make sure that the copy
>content of the site fits criterias for different search engines and
>that the design of the site is mostly non-graphical.
Howdy,
Don't get too excited about the people who call themselves SEO's. Many are
using old urban tales and misinformation. I've had to unsnarl many of the
messes they created. I won't mention names on the newsgroup.
Honesty, User Friendly, and Unique Products are the three most important
keys to good search engine standings. If you try to cheat or sandbag the
system, it may take you months and some phone calls to undo the damage.
Using the meta tags for what they are intended and keeping your text in an
easy to read font size and contrast will usually work fine without any extra
hoops to jump through.
If you are selling what thousands of other sites are, your only choice is to
pay for top listings.
Chris <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.bizynet.com" target="_blank">http://www.bizynet.com</a>
BIZynet Coordinator cgunn RemoveThis @bizynet.com
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Since: Jul 05, 2003 Posts: 258
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2004 11:46 pm
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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 19:55:10 -0600, "News" <NoSpam.RemoveThis@news.com> wrote:
>We had the company we worked with sign a no compete agreement. They had no
>problem with signing it.
Howdy,
Whoops!! If I sign a No Compete agreement, that also means I can't accept
another client selling similar products. I wouldn't stay in business very
long that way.
The skills and techniques I use on every web site are also competing with
each other. I have a reputation to maintain and I go out of my way to
ensure each site has their own unique appearance and no contract on that is
needed.
>If a company wont sign a no compete, DON"T USE THEM.
If a client feels they need a No Compete agreement, it would have to be very
carefully worded so there's no possible confusion. I would refuse to sign
the contract you insisted on until both of us were properly protected. Then
again, I might feel insulted that you didn't trust my reputation and send
you elsewhere.
Chris <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.bizynet.com" target="_blank">http://www.bizynet.com</a>
BIZynet Coordinator cgunn.RemoveThis@bizynet.com
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Since: Jan 02, 2004 Posts: 7
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Sun Jan 04, 2004 6:03 pm
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Hi Chris, I agree with you that the basics of the site is a
requirement, but I have hired some SEO's on some sites and have had
very good results. The keyword analisys for a site is very important
and seo's have the proper tools and time some don't have to do the
work... I stay away from scammy stuff e.i.:Mass submition to engines,
log spamming, link exchanges etc... but when it comes to true SEO i
believe in it. My Alexa ranking went from 2 000 000 to 100 768 and PR
on google is 5.
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Since: Jan 06, 2004 Posts: 1
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Jan 06, 2004 3:00 am
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One item to remember is that the ideas that are placed into a website
will be public knowledge as soon as the page is published. If you are
affraid of someone coping the idea than don't put it on the internet.
Many sites on the web are clones of a good idea. Just food for
thought.
Andrew
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> I have a question: let's say that I have an idea of a website that I
> want to create, and I'd like to make some money on it. If I go to some
> website company and ask them to create this website for me, can they
> seal or use my idea and create their own website with my idea?
> I don't know how it work, but say that I'll put the credit card
> transaction window in my site, is it going to be enough to assure an
> income?
> How can I personally take care of my website? If the company will always
> have access to my website for maintenance and stuff, is it going to be
> safe for me? How these things work?<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: ecommerce question |
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