What is a webmaster?

Dylan Parry wrote:
 > Vinella wrote:
 >
 > [what is a webmaster?]
  >> Any information, hints, or suggestions will be helpful.
 >
 > One day we will all wake up and got to the shower, suddenly realising
 > this has all been a terrible dream. My point; many different people
 > will give you a different definition of what it means to be a
 > webmaster, but the truth is that we can't agree upon it )

do you mind if I skip out the shower bit chaps - male bonding sessions are
soooo 90s.

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Vinella schrieb:
 >
 > I'm currently an Internet Technology student at a small community
 > college. I'm really interested in becoming a webmaster even though I
 > have no clue as to what the job description is.

Check out the many, many previous threads on the definition of
"webmaster". Or stay tuned for another lively debate .


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Charging up on a white horse William Tasso said:
: do you mind if I skip out the shower bit chaps - male bonding
: sessions are soooo 90s.

ah but are you sure there were only men in that shower?
There are quite a few female 'webmasters' as well.
But if you don't want to join in.... *grin*
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Dylan Parry <usenet RemoveThis @dylanparry.com> wrote in
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 > Vinella wrote:
 >
 > [what is a webmaster?]
  >> Any information, hints, or suggestions will be helpful.
 >
 > One day we will all wake up and got to the shower, suddenly realising
 > this has all been a terrible dream. My point; many different people
 > will give you a different definition of what it means to be a
 > webmaster, but the truth is that we can't agree upon it )
 >

Well, yes, Dylan is right in that all of the rest of this riff-raff won't
agree on the term. The real skinny is that I'm the only real webmaster here
- all the rest of them are shameless imposters and ne'erdowells.

So there you go, there's the definition of a web master: Marc Bissonnette.

You can either quit your courses right now and save yourself a ton of
money, or you can complete the program and, with a colossal amount of luck,
become my lackey in life. I might throw you a few pennies an hour for your
troubles (Canadian pennies, at that!), but you should really just consider
the fact that I allow you to speak my name as payment enough.

Sound fair ?

<ducks, runs, digs foxhole>

<grin>

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but then, those are the webmistresses....



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 > Charging up on a white horse William Tasso said:
 > : do you mind if I skip out the shower bit chaps - male bonding
 > : sessions are soooo 90s.
 >
 > ah but are you sure there were only men in that shower?
 > There are quite a few female 'webmasters' as well.
 > But if you don't want to join in.... *grin*
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On 7 Oct 2003 13:12:44 -0700 lyangl2003.RemoveThis@yahoo.com (Vinella) broke off
from drinking a cup of tea at <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://groups.google.com" target="_blank">http://groups.google.com</a> to write:

 >I'm currently an Internet Technology student at a small community
 >college. I'm really interested in becoming a webmaster even though I
 >have no clue as to what the job description is. All I know is that a
 >webmaster designs web sites and maintains it. But there has to more
 >to that, right? Is there any current webmasters who love their career
 >and can give me more info on:
 >What a webmaster does?

Administer a web site.

 >Who does a webmaster work for?

Whom so ever

 >Can a webmaster work from home?

Yes or no. Depends on the employer. I work for myself and administer
my own web site, and only my own web site. I don't call myself a web
master, but I clearly am the master of my site.

 >How does a webmaster find work?

Advertises, allegedly.

 >How much training and education is needed?

Very little conventional, but lots of self.

For commercial work you'll need to be au fait with marketing (the
primary purpose of most web sites), and in no particular order of
importance networking basics (tcp/ip), Unix, Windows, HTML,
Javascript, accessibility issues, cross-platform development concepts,
Perl, PHP, data management, graphics, hacking, criminology, design,
communication.

I've probably missed some out, but the debate will rage for a few days
yet.....

Matt

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On Wed, 08 Oct 2003 02:42:42 GMT "Jezebel" <grocer.RemoveThis@play.net> broke
off from drinking a cup of tea at BigPond Internet Services to write:

 >"Heidi" <blackcat2dartmoor.RemoveThis@dreamingzwallet.com> wrote in message
 >news:rxIgb.72648$_N1.17432@twister.austin.rr.com...
  >> Charging up on a white horse William Tasso said:
  >> : do you mind if I skip out the shower bit chaps - male bonding
  >> : sessions are soooo 90s.
  >>
  >> ah but are you sure there were only men in that shower?
  >> There are quite a few female 'webmasters' as well.
  >> But if you don't want to join in.... *grin*

 >but then, those are the webmistresses....
 >

Where do I pick up my soap and towel? <BG>

Matt

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Charging up on a white horse Jezebel said:

: but then, those are the webmistresses....

Not in my book. I hate all that feminist junk.
Women spent ages fighting for equality and then what do we do?

Turn around and ask to be called webmistresses etc. and scream
because they use terms like Policemen.

To me that is a step back because we again are asking for preferential
terms/treatment. I want none of this full circle garbage.

Jeez.

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"Vinella" <lyangl2003 RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in message
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 > I'm currently an Internet Technology student at a small community
 > college. I'm really interested in becoming a webmaster even though I
 > have no clue as to what the job description is. All I know is that a
 > webmaster designs web sites and maintains it. But there has to more
 > to that, right? Is there any current webmasters who love their career
 > and can give me more info on:
 > What a webmaster does?
 > Who does a webmaster work for?
 > Can a webmaster work from home?
 > How does a webmaster find work?
 > How much training and education is needed?
 >
 > Any information, hints, or suggestions will be helpful.

"All I know is that a webmaster designs web sites and maintains it."

That is not nessarily right. That's more of a webdesigner role, but a
webmaster sometimes, but not always has something to do with designing a
site. Or at least know how to make a website A webmaster might just take
care of the servers, or might take care of the servers, programming and
design. If you talk to 100 people on the definition of a webmaster, you'll
get 100 different answers.

My definition would be a webmaster is somebody that knows at least the
basics of everything there is needed to run a website, from the servers,
routers to designing of the site and maybe some programming thrown in for
good luck.

What you might want to do is think of what you want to specialize in. Like
if you want to become a webdesigner, then learn about that. If you want to
become a server admin, then look into that. The same with programming or
what ever else. Asking questions about a "webmaster" is too general. What is
it specifically that you want to do (programming, server admin, maybe just
the mail server admin part or ftp server admin part).

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Matthias Gutfeldt <say-no-to-spam.TakeThisOut@gmx.net> wrote in message news:<3F8328C3.A60C6482.TakeThisOut@gmx.net>...
 >
 > Check out the many, many previous threads on the definition of
 > "webmaster". Or stay tuned for another lively debate .
 >
 >
 > Matthias

I'm sorry, but newsgroups are new to me. I'm in here because this is
a class assignment. I'm supposed to get information on webmasters but
it's hard to follow up on the topic. I've found some information.
However, some of the threads doesn't even have anything to do with
webmaster. Maybe it takes time to get use to this forum??? I'm
confused.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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lyangl2003 DeleteThis @yahoo.com (Vinella) wrote in
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 > Matthias Gutfeldt <say-no-to-spam DeleteThis @gmx.net> wrote in message
 > news:<3F8328C3.A60C6482 DeleteThis @gmx.net>...
  >>
  >> Check out the many, many previous threads on the definition of
  >> "webmaster". Or stay tuned for another lively debate .
  >>
  >>
  >> Matthias
 >
 > I'm sorry, but newsgroups are new to me. I'm in here because this is
 > a class assignment. I'm supposed to get information on webmasters but
 > it's hard to follow up on the topic. I've found some information.
 > However, some of the threads doesn't even have anything to do with
 > webmaster. Maybe it takes time to get use to this forum??? I'm
 > confused.
 >

Yes, it takes time to get used to this forum. You'll find many long-time,
oldtimers in this newsgroup who are willing to share their expertise and
experiences when the question is asked nicely.

Often times, a complete newb will come in and ask the same darned
question that 9,000 other people have asked in the past month without
first checking google (http://groups.google.com) for an answer, first.

Since most of us are involved in the web industry in a full-time basis,
this group tends to be used, in addition to professional support, as a
steam-valve, comic relief and occasional battleground

You'll find many people from many aspects of the field of "webmaster" in
this newsgroup. Myself, for example, I have the artistic talent of
powdered toast (i.e. none) - I am a perl CGI programmer and MySQL
database guy - basically, I do back-end stuff, content automation and
server administration. Could I be called a webmaster? I suppose, if you
consider "master of the server on which the website resides" - then
again, you might only consider a webmaster as the one directly
responsible for it's look, or it's content, or it's overall planning, or,
or, or (ad infinitum)

A really rocking website is usually the result of more than any single
person's work. The term 'webmaster' is far too loosely used and often
mistakenly so by any slob who's downloaded a copy of FrontPage and thinks
that they can make their own cnn.com on a Monday evening.

A real webmaster, IMO, will do the things that (s)he does best and have
the professional wisdom to call in other specialists for tasks or
elements in which (s)he isn't so strong in.

Hope this is of some help.

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"Vinella" <lyangl2003.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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 > I'm sorry, but newsgroups are new to me. I'm in here because this is
 > a class assignment. I'm supposed to get information on webmasters but
 > it's hard to follow up on the topic.

Typical of modern-day education. If the answer isn't served on a plate the
poor kids don't have the first idea how to figure it out! Study, read,
research!
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On 9 Oct 2003 07:26:06 -0700 lyangl2003.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com (Vinella) broke off
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 >Matthias Gutfeldt <say-no-to-spam.TakeThisOut@gmx.net> wrote in message news:<3F8328C3.A60C6482.TakeThisOut@gmx.net>...
  >>
  >> Check out the many, many previous threads on the definition of
  >> "webmaster". Or stay tuned for another lively debate .
  >>
  >>
  >> Matthias
 >
 > I'm sorry, but newsgroups are new to me. I'm in here because this is
 >a class assignment. I'm supposed to get information on webmasters but
 >it's hard to follow up on the topic. I've found some information.
 >However, some of the threads doesn't even have anything to do with
 >webmaster. Maybe it takes time to get use to this forum??? I'm
 >confused.

ROTFL!

Sorry, I don't mean to be rude. But *you're* confused? Welcome to AWW,
also known as 'nutter's lair' where you'll find some of the weirdest
eccentrics on Usenet.

I thought I'd told you what a web master is? It's someone who
administers a web site (or sites).

Is that succinct enough? If you want to interview me, track me down
and email me.

Matt

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