cPanel - configuring webalizer?

griffith.TakeThisOut@dweeb.org (Jim Griffith) wrote in
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 > Does anyone know if it's possible to configure a domain's or
 > sub-domain's usage of webalizer within cPanel or WHM? I'm with
 > Page-Zone, and I've got a big enough account to have WHM access. I
 > have a sub-domain, album.dweeb.org, and I'd like to modify its
 > Webalizer usage so that it doesn't report any album.dweeb.org links in
 > its list of referrers. As it is, the referrers list is huge, and I
 > don't care about any of the interal references. The docs for
 > Webalizer say that this can be configured. I'm guessing I need to add
 > arguments to a crontab webalizer command somewhere, but it's not *my*
 > crontab file accessible through cPanel. Has anyone done this sort of
 > thing before? And if so, can I do it myself, or would I need
 > Page-Zone's assistance to do it?
 >
 > TIA.
 >
 > Jim

I am with PageZone, I would just ask Jim - at PageZone, he usually comes up
with a good answer.

Otherwise, perhaps check out a log analyzer that works with Webzlizer data?

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"William Tasso" <ngx DeleteThis @tbdata.com> wrote in message news:<bfoare$greg7$1@ID-139074.news.uni-berlin.de>...
 > Jim Griffith wrote:
  > > ...can I do it myself, or would I need
  > > Page-Zone's assistance to do it?
 >
 > what does Jim (at page zone) say?

I wanted to do my homework before asking him. I verified that the webalizer
software itself supports such a thing, which would have otherwise made the issue
moot (unless I go Aryk's route and write something on top of the webalizer data
files, or maybe even a perl script which just filters the webalizer-produced HTML
file). And I figured since other ISPs use the same software as Page-Zone, this
isn't the type of question that's exclusive to Page-Zone anyways.

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On 23 Jul 2003 18:40:18 -0700, griffith DeleteThis @dweeb.org (Jim Griffith)
wrote:

 >Does anyone know if it's possible to configure a domain's or sub-domain's
 >usage of webalizer within cPanel or WHM? I'm with Page-Zone, and I've got
 >a big enough account to have WHM access.

I advise everybody not using Page-Zone if you host something more
complex than homepage. They know some basics, but when it comes to
something more complicated they just don't answer to your messages.
Both me and my client oceanjob.com left them after about month of
using service.

I read a lot about Page-Zone here and I decided to try them. It was
big mistake. Just to tell you what they could not do: they could not
install CG2 library for PHP, the could not put path to PHP modules in
the system include path. Instead of configuring anti-virus software
correctly they just deleted all messages with EML attachments,
"suspecting" them to be infected.

And the worst thing is their technical support. My client tried to get
answer from them during 2 weeks. He failed. He received answer from
Page-Zone after 1.5 weeks he left their hosting. By the way, that
answer did not help.

Just wanted everybody to know it.

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"Igor Slyusar" <me DeleteThis @privacy.net> wrote in message
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 > I advise everybody not using Page-Zone if you host something more
 > complex than homepage. They know some basics, but when it comes to

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Holding it in for one more second Igor Slyusar replied:
: I advise everybody not using Page-Zone if you host something more
: complex than homepage. They know some basics, but when it comes to
: something more complicated they just don't answer to your messages.

That is not true for everyone. I have always been answered and promptly
regardless of the reason/situation/question

:
: I read a lot about Page-Zone here and I decided to try them. It was
: big mistake.

Sorry you felt that way but I have used them for a long time now with
more than 20 sites and I still love them to pieces. I am also the pickiest
person on this planet when it comes to hosting. *grin*

: Instead of configuring anti-virus software correctly they just deleted
: all messages with EML attachments, "suspecting" them to be infected.

Not sure what you mean by this. Did you send them attachments? If
so I don't blame them. I never accept attachments from anyone and I
have my antivirus program running at all times and configured right.

I still don't want attachments.

:
: And the worst thing is their technical support. My client tried to get
: answer from them during 2 weeks. He failed. He received answer from
: Page-Zone after 1.5 weeks he left their hosting.

This I find hard to believe. I have always received a prompt reply
Did you fill out the help ticket or call them? Did you visit the forums and
post
your question/problem there?

:
: Just wanted everybody to know it.
:
: Regards, Igor Slyusar.

And I just wanted everyone to know a different view from a completely
satisfied customer who runs several websites all with Page-Zone through
a reseller account so I can manage all my domains.

Heidi

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On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 19:29:41 GMT, "Heidi" <blackcat2 DeleteThis @zwallet.com>
wrote:

 >That is not true for everyone. I have always been answered and promptly
 >regardless of the reason/situation/question

Sure, once I received response few minutes after I pointed to
Page-Zone admins unprofessionalism. They just deleted my account.
Everything. My site, my mail, everything at all. They did not even
warn me, so my site was down for two days, while I was moving my
domain to other IP.

 >Not sure what you mean by this. Did you send them attachments? If
 >so I don't blame them. I never accept attachments from anyone and I
 >have my antivirus program running at all times and configured right.

I want to receive everything. Then I will decide what to delete. Why
the hell Page-Zone decides for me what to delete?

 >This I find hard to believe. I have always received a prompt reply
 >Did you fill out the help ticket or call them? Did you visit the forums and
 >post your question/problem there?

1) Ticket was filled, even few e-mails were sent;
2) I pay for hosting and I want technical support, not user forums.

 >And I just wanted everyone to know a different view from a completely
 >satisfied customer who runs several websites all with Page-Zone through
 >a reseller account so I can manage all my domains.

I can understand your position, you're their reseller and it explains
a lot.

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Igor,

Please see below...

Igor Slyusar wrote:
 >
 >
 > Sure, once I received response few minutes after I pointed to
 > Page-Zone admins unprofessionalism. They just deleted my account.
 > Everything. My site, my mail, everything at all. They did not even
 > warn me, so my site was down for two days, while I was moving my
 > domain to other IP.
 >

Interesting. And they've never deleted any of my files, either.

 >
 > I want to receive everything. Then I will decide what to delete. Why
 > the hell Page-Zone decides for me what to delete?
 >

I receive everything. However, Heidi was referring to SENDING THEM
attachments - not receiving them. I delete attachements without opening
from people I don't know, also. If you sent an attachment to Page-Zone,
it very well may have been deleted.

 >
 > 1) Ticket was filled, even few e-mails were sent;
 > 2) I pay for hosting and I want technical support, not user forums.
 >

Technical support costs money. If you want 24/7 phone support,
immediate answers to all of your problems and the solution to life, the
universe and everything, expect to pay for it. I find Page-Zone has
excellent support for the price I pay. YOu want more support? Pay more
money.

 >
 > I can understand your position, you're their reseller and it explains
 > a lot.
 >

I am not a reseller. But I am familiar with hosting services, HTML, web
pages, and the rest. I even keep my own Apache server going here for
testing.

Page-Zone has earned a good reputation in this newsgroup. And that is
hard to come by.

 > Regards, Igor Slyusar.
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On Tue, 29 Jul 2003 11:11:56 -0400, Jerry Stuckle
<jstucklex DeleteThis @attglobal.net> wrote:

 >I am not a reseller. But I am familiar with hosting services, HTML, web
 >pages, and the rest. I even keep my own Apache server going here for
 >testing.

LOL Is running Apache something special? Configuring Apache (and
PHP + MySQL) is the first thing I do after installing OS.

 >Page-Zone has earned a good reputation in this newsgroup.

I don't care about their reputation in this NG. I have my own
experience as well as my clients experience and it's enough for me.

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Igor Slyusar <me.RemoveThis@privacy.net> wrote in message
 > I advise everybody not using Page-Zone if you host something more
 > complex than homepage. They know some basics, but when it comes to
 > something more complicated they just don't answer to your messages.
 > Both me and my client oceanjob.com left them after about month of
 > using service.

Most "Web Hosts" are resellers, or people who simply buy a dedicated server
from an ISP and start selling space using a control panel. They don't
understand the internals of how unix works, how to recompile or install
packages, etc. If the control panel can't do it for them, then they are
dead in the water.

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zach.TakeThisOut@icelab.net (Zach Weber) wrote in message news:<7e2d17c5.0307310606.2b00520.TakeThisOut@posting.google.com>...
 > Most "Web Hosts" are resellers, or people who simply buy a dedicated server
 > from an ISP and start selling space using a control panel. They don't
 > understand the internals of how unix works, how to recompile or install
 > packages, etc. If the control panel can't do it for them, then they are
 > dead in the water.

That may very well be the case, and that may in fact be the business model
that Page-Zone follows. But my experience with them is completely different
from Igor's - I've always had a response within 24 hours (usually less), and
the response has always demonstrated technical competence. I've been with
them going on eight months now, and I haven't regretted the decision for a
second (especially considering the price).

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On 31 Jul 2003 07:06:32 -0700, zach RemoveThis @icelab.net (Zach Weber) wrote:

 >Most "Web Hosts" are resellers, or people who simply buy a dedicated server
 >from an ISP and start selling space using a control panel. They don't
 >understand the internals of how unix works, how to recompile or install
 >packages, etc. If the control panel can't do it for them, then they are
 >dead in the water.

That's exactly what I was talking about. I work with other hosting
provider for the last 2 years and their Administrator is real
professional. If I ask him to recompile PHP with needed module, or
some other technical thing like this - he does it. If I ask for the
better way to write my software the way it takes less system resources
of his server - he gives me advise. I never waited more than 1 day for
his response to my questions and requests. He would never delete or
even suspend my account without noticing me. This is what I call good
support.

The name of that hosting provider is omitted intentionally. I don't
want anybody to think that I'm advertising here. No way.

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"Igor Slyusar" <me DeleteThis @privacy.net> wrote in message
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 > That's exactly what I was talking about. I work with other hosting
 > provider for the last 2 years and their Administrator is real
 > professional. If I ask him to recompile PHP with needed module, or
 > some other technical thing like this - he does it. If I ask for the
 > better way to write my software the way it takes less system resources
 > of his server - he gives me advise. I never waited more than 1 day for
 > his response to my questions and requests. He would never delete or
 > even suspend my account without noticing me. This is what I call good
 > support.

How much do you pay for that?
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On 31 Jul 2003 12:52:45 -0700, griffith.RemoveThis@dweeb.org (Jim Griffith)
wrote:

 >That may very well be the case, and that may in fact be the business model
 >that Page-Zone follows. But my experience with them is completely different
 >from Igor's - I've always had a response within 24 hours (usually less), and
 >the response has always demonstrated technical competence.

Let me give you another example of Page-Zone competence. After moving
my domain to their IP I was sending common messages to my business
partners. And suddenly I received error message about failed delivery
to my domain registrar address. The reason was "HELO is not correct
domain name". I informed Page-Zone about that error and asked to
correct it.

After 2 days of waiting and few messages sent to their help desk I
finally received the most technically competent advise in the world.
They advised me to use OTHER SMTP server. Wasn't it great? I paid
money to them for using their server and they sent me to somebody
else!

Do you know why? Because they did not know what that error message
meant. They did not know that if one telnets to 25 port and says
"HELO" he has to get that server's domain name. And Page-Zone server
did not tell domain name. It told "pagezone1".

My domain registrar's server was configured to check that HELO to
avoid SPAM. Who knows how many other servers were blocked for
Page-Zone users due to Page-Zone technical support incompetence.

After I explained it to Page-Zone support and gave them evidences and
explanations they finally managed to configure their SMTP server.
Congratulations.

 > I've been withthem going on eight months now, and I haven't
 > regretted the decision for a second (especially considering the price).

Yes, the prices are good. But personally I prefer to buy things of
high quality, even if they are a bit more expensive.

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