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anonymous809

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Since: Jan 01, 2004
Posts: 3



(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 1:30 pm
Post subject: Windows 2003 & IIS 6.0 problems
Archived from groups: microsoft>public>inetserver>iis (more info?)

Hi All,
I have two problems with my 2003 server...I have recently
upgraded to win 2003 from w2k server...I didn't have any
problems upgrading it...my website was working fine...then
i installed some critical updates and a partition software
(Acronis partition Expert)..rebooted the machine...since
then my website (which was enabled for anonymous access)
is asking for username and password...I went thru all
ACLs ...changed them to all possible combinations...but it
was still asking for username and password to our website
users...then i decided to restore previous system state
from my backup tape...it complained about Active Directory
running...then I rebooted the machine ...to my surprise I
could not see "Advanced Startup options" (with F8 key at
the reboot)....Can any one please help me...It's very
critical for me to get the website up with anonymous
access....
Any suggestions and help would be immensely appreciated...
thank you in advance...
-KS

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Since: Aug 26, 2003
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 9:49 pm
Post subject: Re: Windows 2003 & IIS 6.0 problems [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 10:30:45 -0800, "ks"
<anonymous.DeleteThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:

 >I have two problems with my 2003 server...I have recently
 >upgraded to win 2003 from w2k server...I didn't have any
 >problems upgrading it...my website was working fine...then
 >i installed some critical updates and a partition software
 >(Acronis partition Expert)..rebooted the machine...since
 >then my website (which was enabled for anonymous access)
 >is asking for username and password...I went thru all
 >ACLs ...changed them to all possible combinations...but it
 >was still asking for username and password to our website
 >users...then i decided to restore previous system state
 >from my backup tape...it complained about Active Directory
 >running...then I rebooted the machine ...to my surprise I
 >could not see "Advanced Startup options" (with F8 key at
 >the reboot)....Can any one please help me...It's very
 >critical for me to get the website up with anonymous
 >access....

Have you simply enabled anonymous access and removed authentication
for the site in question? Web site Properties -> Directory Security
-> Authentication and check Anonymous Access. make sure the anonymous
user, normally the IUSR account, has at least read permission to the
web folders and you should be good to go.

Jeff<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->

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natalia

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2004 9:49 pm
Post subject: Re: Windows 2003 & IIS 6.0 problems [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hi,

I have sort of the same problem, but in my case I want
users to be identified by the website (an intranet) using
integrated authentication. The anonymous thing works, but
I need to track them so I can give them user-specific
content and can control access to restricted areas. This
worked perfectly on Win2000 with IIS5. Why doesn't it work
now??

Any thoughts?? Thanks!!

Natalia


 >-----Original Message-----
 >On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 10:30:45 -0800, "ks"
 ><anonymous.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
 >
  >>I have two problems with my 2003 server...I have
recently
  >>upgraded to win 2003 from w2k server...I didn't have any
  >>problems upgrading it...my website was working
fine...then
  >>i installed some critical updates and a partition
software
  >>(Acronis partition Expert)..rebooted the machine...since
  >>then my website (which was enabled for anonymous access)
  >>is asking for username and password...I went thru all
  >>ACLs ...changed them to all possible combinations...but
it
  >>was still asking for username and password to our
website
  >>users...then i decided to restore previous system state
  >>from my backup tape...it complained about Active
Directory
  >>running...then I rebooted the machine ...to my surprise
I
  >>could not see "Advanced Startup options" (with F8 key at
  >>the reboot)....Can any one please help me...It's very
  >>critical for me to get the website up with anonymous
  >>access....
 >
 >Have you simply enabled anonymous access and removed
authentication
 >for the site in question? Web site Properties ->
Directory Security
 >-> Authentication and check Anonymous Access. make sure
the anonymous
 >user, normally the IUSR account, has at least read
permission to the
 >web folders and you should be good to go.
 >
 >Jeff
 >.
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 12:05 am
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On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 11:51:13 -0800, "Natalia" <natalia.TakeThisOut@natuscape.com>
wrote:

 >I have sort of the same problem, but in my case I want
 >users to be identified by the website (an intranet) using
 >integrated authentication. The anonymous thing works, but
 >I need to track them so I can give them user-specific
 >content and can control access to restricted areas. This
 >worked perfectly on Win2000 with IIS5. Why doesn't it work
 >now??

Okay, I'll reverse my response to the previous poster. Have you
enabled authentication in the web site? Specifically, Windows
Integrated, and make sure that the intranet domain is either the same
as the user's domain or in the intranet zone in IE's security tab.

IE will pass the credentials transparently, so you *may* be
authenticating and not know. Try:

<% Response.Write Request.ServerVariables("LOGON_USER") %>

Jeff

  >>-----Original Message-----
  >>On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 10:30:45 -0800, "ks"
  >><anonymous.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
  >>
   >>>I have two problems with my 2003 server...I have
 >recently
   >>>upgraded to win 2003 from w2k server...I didn't have any
   >>>problems upgrading it...my website was working
 >fine...then
   >>>i installed some critical updates and a partition
 >software
   >>>(Acronis partition Expert)..rebooted the machine...since
   >>>then my website (which was enabled for anonymous access)
   >>>is asking for username and password...I went thru all
   >>>ACLs ...changed them to all possible combinations...but
 >it
   >>>was still asking for username and password to our
 >website
   >>>users...then i decided to restore previous system state
   >>>from my backup tape...it complained about Active
 >Directory
   >>>running...then I rebooted the machine ...to my surprise
 >I
   >>>could not see "Advanced Startup options" (with F8 key at
   >>>the reboot)....Can any one please help me...It's very
   >>>critical for me to get the website up with anonymous
   >>>access....
  >>
  >>Have you simply enabled anonymous access and removed
 >authentication
  >>for the site in question? Web site Properties ->
 >Directory Security
  >>-> Authentication and check Anonymous Access. make sure
 >the anonymous
  >>user, normally the IUSR account, has at least read
 >permission to the
  >>web folders and you should be good to go.
  >>
  >>Jeff
  >>.
  >><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 12:08 am
Post subject: Re: Windows 2003 & IIS 6.0 problems [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I wish you could have stopped right as your website was initially asking for
username/password and performed troubleshooting (and asked this newsgroup)
at that point (instead of restoring from backup, which does not sound like
it was successful and has placed your system in an unknown state such that
we may not be looking at the original problem).

I suspect that your anonymous user account was somehow mismatched prior to
the upgrade, but IIS5 on W2K was running as LocalSystem, able to use
SubAuthentication (via "IIS controls the password" option), and get around
this problem. After the upgrade, IIS6 is no longer privileged enough to use
SubAuthentication -- so it was unable to cover up for your mismatched
anonymous user account/password. Thus, all anonymous access will
automatically return 401, eventually causing IE to ask for
username/password.

If that was the case, all we needed to do was synchronize the
username/password in the SAM/AD (depending on your configuration) with IIS's
settings, and the dialog box should have gone away with minimal system
intrusion.

But, you've done a whole bunch of other things that are unreversible such
that I'm not certain this explanation is even relevent anymore. I have no
idea whether your system is currently running Windows 2000 or Windows Server
2003, even.

--
//David
IIS
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
//
"ks" <anonymous.RemoveThis@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:005001c3da03$5be29980$a501280a@phx.gbl...
Hi All,
I have two problems with my 2003 server...I have recently
upgraded to win 2003 from w2k server...I didn't have any
problems upgrading it...my website was working fine...then
i installed some critical updates and a partition software
(Acronis partition Expert)..rebooted the machine...since
then my website (which was enabled for anonymous access)
is asking for username and password...I went thru all
ACLs ...changed them to all possible combinations...but it
was still asking for username and password to our website
users...then i decided to restore previous system state
from my backup tape...it complained about Active Directory
running...then I rebooted the machine ...to my surprise I
could not see "Advanced Startup options" (with F8 key at
the reboot)....Can any one please help me...It's very
critical for me to get the website up with anonymous
access....
Any suggestions and help would be immensely appreciated...
thank you in advance...
-KS
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natalia

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Since: Jan 13, 2004
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2004 9:31 am
Post subject: Re: Windows 2003 & IIS 6.0 problems [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hi Jeff,

Actually, Integrated Authentication IS enabled, and this
worked fine with Windows 2000. I have tried adding the
website to a user's Intranet group, but that didn't fix
the problem; also I need to have the website in the
Trusted group for an office chart applet used in some
database applications.

Any other thoughts on what could be happening here? Is
there some special/new setting in the permissions that we
might have overlooked?

Thanks!!

Natalia

 >-----Original Message-----
 >On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 11:51:13 -0800, "Natalia"
<natalia RemoveThis @natuscape.com>
 >wrote:
 >
  >>I have sort of the same problem, but in my case I want
  >>users to be identified by the website (an intranet)
using
  >>integrated authentication. The anonymous thing works,
but
  >>I need to track them so I can give them user-specific
  >>content and can control access to restricted areas. This
  >>worked perfectly on Win2000 with IIS5. Why doesn't it
work
  >>now??
 >
 >Okay, I'll reverse my response to the previous poster.
Have you
 >enabled authentication in the web site? Specifically,
Windows
 >Integrated, and make sure that the intranet domain is
either the same
 >as the user's domain or in the intranet zone in IE's
security tab.
 >
 >IE will pass the credentials transparently, so you *may*
be
 >authenticating and not know. Try:
 >
 ><% Response.Write Request.ServerVariables("LOGON_USER") %>
 >
 >Jeff
 >
   >>>-----Original Message-----
   >>>On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 10:30:45 -0800, "ks"
   >>><anonymous RemoveThis @discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
   >>>
   >>>>I have two problems with my 2003 server...I have
  >>recently
   >>>>upgraded to win 2003 from w2k server...I didn't have
any
   >>>>problems upgrading it...my website was working
  >>fine...then
   >>>>i installed some critical updates and a partition
  >>software
   >>>>(Acronis partition Expert)..rebooted the
machine...since
   >>>>then my website (which was enabled for anonymous
access)
   >>>>is asking for username and password...I went thru all
   >>>>ACLs ...changed them to all possible
combinations...but
  >>it
   >>>>was still asking for username and password to our
  >>website
   >>>>users...then i decided to restore previous system
state
   >>>>from my backup tape...it complained about Active
  >>Directory
   >>>>running...then I rebooted the machine ...to my
surprise
  >>I
   >>>>could not see "Advanced Startup options" (with F8 key
at
   >>>>the reboot)....Can any one please help me...It's very
   >>>>critical for me to get the website up with anonymous
   >>>>access....
   >>>
   >>>Have you simply enabled anonymous access and removed
  >>authentication
   >>>for the site in question? Web site Properties ->
  >>Directory Security
   >>>-> Authentication and check Anonymous Access. make
sure
  >>the anonymous
   >>>user, normally the IUSR account, has at least read
  >>permission to the
   >>>web folders and you should be good to go.
   >>>
   >>>Jeff
   >>>.
   >>>
 >
 >.
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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someone9

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2004 1:11 am
Post subject: Re: Windows 2003 & IIS 6.0 problems [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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If you wish to track users via authentication from a website, make sure that
Anonymous access is DISABLED. Browsers default to anonymous access, meaning
if you have it enabled on the website, it is impossible to display
customized content by user identity since everyone will show up as
"anonymous".

Furthermore, browsers can be configured to "auto-authenticate" to a website
depending on the Security Zone of the website, as configured on the client
browser. This will affect whether you will see a login popup window or not
when you browse to this website.

As for allowing the "office chart applet to run" on the user's browser, that
is totally a client browser configuration. The issue is that your web page
is asking the web browser to run the chart applet in the browser, which is a
privileged operation (namely, the browser doesn't know the difference
between a "chart applet" program and a "hacker program", so for safety
reasons you need to tell the browser it's ok to allow it to run -- adding
the website to "Trusted" is one way to do this). Obviously, this has
NOTHING to do with authentication on the server as this a client-side
configuration.

FYI: adding websites to "Intranet" or "Trusted" group is not going to solve
this problem. Namely, just because a browser "trusts" a website, it does
not mean it's going to authenticate to it (browsers do not authenticate to
websites unless forced to). You need to configure the server to force
authentication. You may choose to force the user to have to login as well.

Thus, this is more a user configuration issue and not a problem with IIS6.
Security requires customization, and users are responsible for configuring
it to their satisfaction.

--
//David
IIS
This posting is provided "AS IS" with no warranties, and confers no rights.
//
"Natalia" <natalia.TakeThisOut@natuscape.com> wrote in message
news:0a2701c3daab$1062f790$a501280a@phx.gbl...
Hi Jeff,

Actually, Integrated Authentication IS enabled, and this
worked fine with Windows 2000. I have tried adding the
website to a user's Intranet group, but that didn't fix
the problem; also I need to have the website in the
Trusted group for an office chart applet used in some
database applications.

Any other thoughts on what could be happening here? Is
there some special/new setting in the permissions that we
might have overlooked?

Thanks!!

Natalia

 >-----Original Message-----
 >On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 11:51:13 -0800, "Natalia"
<natalia.TakeThisOut@natuscape.com>
 >wrote:
 >
  >>I have sort of the same problem, but in my case I want
  >>users to be identified by the website (an intranet)
using
  >>integrated authentication. The anonymous thing works,
but
  >>I need to track them so I can give them user-specific
  >>content and can control access to restricted areas. This
  >>worked perfectly on Win2000 with IIS5. Why doesn't it
work
  >>now??
 >
 >Okay, I'll reverse my response to the previous poster.
Have you
 >enabled authentication in the web site? Specifically,
Windows
 >Integrated, and make sure that the intranet domain is
either the same
 >as the user's domain or in the intranet zone in IE's
security tab.
 >
 >IE will pass the credentials transparently, so you *may*
be
 >authenticating and not know. Try:
 >
 ><% Response.Write Request.ServerVariables("LOGON_USER") %>
 >
 >Jeff
 >
   >>>-----Original Message-----
   >>>On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 10:30:45 -0800, "ks"
   >>><anonymous.TakeThisOut@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote:
   >>>
   >>>>I have two problems with my 2003 server...I have
  >>recently
   >>>>upgraded to win 2003 from w2k server...I didn't have
any
   >>>>problems upgrading it...my website was working
  >>fine...then
   >>>>i installed some critical updates and a partition
  >>software
   >>>>(Acronis partition Expert)..rebooted the
machine...since
   >>>>then my website (which was enabled for anonymous
access)
   >>>>is asking for username and password...I went thru all
   >>>>ACLs ...changed them to all possible
combinations...but
  >>it
   >>>>was still asking for username and password to our
  >>website
   >>>>users...then i decided to restore previous system
state
   >>>>from my backup tape...it complained about Active
  >>Directory
   >>>>running...then I rebooted the machine ...to my
surprise
  >>I
   >>>>could not see "Advanced Startup options" (with F8 key
at
   >>>>the reboot)....Can any one please help me...It's very
   >>>>critical for me to get the website up with anonymous
   >>>>access....
   >>>
   >>>Have you simply enabled anonymous access and removed
  >>authentication
   >>>for the site in question? Web site Properties ->
  >>Directory Security
   >>>-> Authentication and check Anonymous Access. make
sure
  >>the anonymous
   >>>user, normally the IUSR account, has at least read
  >>permission to the
   >>>web folders and you should be good to go.
   >>>
   >>>Jeff
   >>>.
   >>>
 >
 >.
 ><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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