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jonswaino

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 7:28 am
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Hi all,
I don't know if this is in the right group but my question is, how do
you go about providing a website creation & hosting service as a
business? For example I could approach small businesses in the area
and ask if they would like 1) A domain name, 2) A nice web site at that
location, 3) maintenance support including changes.

The difficultly in providing this seems to be the way that webhosting
companies provide this service & their pricing scheme. I would like to
provide all 3 of the above services at a one off fee e.g. £250 for a
simple web-site. I don't want re-curring costs every month from many
different web hosting companies. This would be too difficult to manage
& maybe the customer may not like re-curring monthly charges either.
The solution in my opinion would be to be able to manage all my domains
in one place, and keep adding to it as my customer base grows. Instead
of tying myself to one specific package, I would need the flexibility
of growing web space, domains, traffic and databases etc. Any ideas or
companies that provide a simple solution?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 11:55 am
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jonswaino.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com wrote:

> Hi all,
> I don't know if this is in the right group but my question is, how do
> you go about providing a website creation & hosting service as a
> business? For example I could approach small businesses in the area
> and ask if they would like 1) A domain name, 2) A nice web site at
> that location, 3) maintenance support including changes.
>
> The difficultly in providing this seems to be the way that webhosting
> companies provide this service & their pricing scheme. I would like
> to provide all 3 of the above services at a one off fee e.g. £250 for
> a simple web-site. I don't want re-curring costs every month from
> many different web hosting companies. This would be too difficult to
> manage & maybe the customer may not like re-curring monthly charges
> either. The solution in my opinion would be to be able to manage all
> my domains in one place, and keep adding to it as my customer base
> grows. Instead of tying myself to one specific package, I would need
> the flexibility of growing web space, domains, traffic and databases
> etc. Any ideas or companies that provide a simple solution?

You say you'll provide this at a one-off fee. Have you taken into
consideration your own monthly bills, such as electricity, bandwidth
and location rental? Even if you choose to do this out of your own
home, you still have rent and other bills to pay.

When setting up your pricing table, calculate the minimum price out
from these factors:
1. Cost of equipment (hardware, routers, cabling, workload)
2. Cost of software (licenses, maintenance, support)
3. Bandwidth costs (high-speed DSL line)
4. Space rental costs (office space, computer room, data center)
5. Electricity and other utilities
6. Website design and development (work time or hiring costs)
7. Domain registry fees (if you're handling it yourself)
8. Handling costs (accounting, postage, supplies)
9. Your own workload

If you're renting space at a local data center, items 3-5 can be
combined into one. Items 3-5 and 7-9 are recurring, so you want to take
this into consideration. Also keep in mind the cost of future upgrades
(both software and hardware) and replacement parts. Equipment can and
will break down at some point in time (you never know when it will
happen; it could even be 5-10 years from now), so it might be a good
idea to have spare parts ready.

I don't know of any serious hosting companies that don't charge by the
month, more or less because of the reasons mentioned above.

An alternative to monthly billing would be to charge by the year, and
remind the customer a month or two in advance of the next billing
cycle, something which several companies have as a payment option.

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gandalf

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Aug 04, 2005 1:55 pm
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jonswaino RemoveThis @hotmail.com wrote in news:1123165718.874693.34410
@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:

> I don't know if this is in the right group but my question is, how do
> you go about providing a website creation & hosting service as a
> business? For example I could approach small businesses in the area
> and ask if they would like 1) A domain name, 2) A nice web site at that
> location, 3) maintenance support including changes.

here is just one possible scenario. Team up with a local site. If my town
is fairfield then the fairfieldcity site is a possibility. Check with the
local merchants group and see if they are interested also.

Get them to setup a decent visual map display of downtown and get them to
pay you to fill it in. Research as many of those businesses as possible.
Set it up so that clicking on the building goes to the web site for as
many of them as possible. For the rest of them setup a bare-bones text
display of the company name only.

Then get a laptop. Go door-to-door. "Look what happens when I click this
guys shop. A full color display with all the info on what he does,
contact numbers, price info, whatever pitching he wanted to do. Now look
what happens when I click on yours. I can fix that."

Various pitches from there. Offer to whip off a $5 item by just scanning
in his business card. Be sure to find out and compare to prices for
things like a full color full page ad in the newspaper, or in the phone
book. "I dont know how many people actually USE the internet for find
businesses but for as little as $5/month I can do this. Compare it to
$600 for a newspper ad that becomes doggie toilet the next day". Whats
great is that some will have a professionally done flyer or something
which can already be 70% of a web page

Gandalf Parker
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jonswaino

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:28 am
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Thanks for the ideas guys.

I'm thinking along these lines:

1) Having a developer account or reseller plan sounds the way forward.

2) Investigation into costs and how much time it takes to set-up domain
names, build the site, etc. definately need to be incorporated into the
final annual cost to the customer. 2 months before expiry, a
notification could be sent to the customer to renew (as mentioned). If
on expiry they haven't paid, then their website is replaced with a
blank page or something?? If on subsequent contact, the customer
refuses renewal then the space can be released for other future web
sites. If it was backed up and the customer changed his mind, then
this could be uploaded back again.

3) Really need to have a database/spreadsheet detailiing:
a) when the customer first paid their annual subscription
b) how much they paid
c) date of renewal
d) how much the renewal cost will be
e) customer contact details (of course!)

4) An example pricing plan could be: customer pays £500 for first
website creation and 1 years' on-line availability, then say £100
thereafter for keeping it online, and £x amount for further
maintenance/changes. These are just figures off the top of my head.
An investigation into pricing would be required.

My overall thinking on this is, most companies especially small ones,
are not very IT savvy. However, they want to be on the internet as a
way of communicating to customers and possibly generating more income.
But all they want is a website (a scanned flyer put onto the web is a
good start as mentioned), so if it could be presented as a product they
can buy for an annual price at least, this is much better than saying,
you need to pay me £x every month for the next x months. Also, its
nice to see money up-front rather than managing re-curring costs from
many different customers. It might be ok for big companies, but for a
small web site creation business, it doesn't seem the ideal.

On another note, I noticed a package provided by a web hosting company
for £500 a year, which would be ideal for a website creation business
because it had unlimited domains, emails, databases etc. However, for
someone just starting out they don't want something so expensive. I
could do with one which grows over time, I can add a new MySQL database
and a domain name whenever I want. Obviously this will get charged, but
if I have a customer in the pipe-line, I'm covered. I'll have to
investigate the type of packages available. I just feel many are too
'fixed'. Maybe I'm wrong??
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 2:35 am
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1. Cost of equipment (hardware, routers, cabling, workload)
- Only hardware required will be PC, router for connection to internet
etc.

2. Cost of software (licenses, maintenance, support)
- s/w such as dreamweaver, FTP uploader etc.

3. Bandwidth costs (high-speed DSL line)
4. Space rental costs (office space, computer room, data center)
- both these should be handled by web hosting company?

5. Electricity and other utilities
- as any other business

6. Website design and development (work time or hiring costs)
7. Domain registry fees (if you're handling it yourself)
8. Handling costs (accounting, postage, supplies)
9. Your own workload
- these seem to be main ones for me, the website design & development

I could do with a web site creators perfect software toolbox: the
software, webhosting company, languages to use etc. to get me going.
Any ideas?
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2005 7:00 am
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jonswaino DeleteThis @hotmail.com wrote:
> 1. Cost of equipment (hardware, routers, cabling, workload)
> - Only hardware required will be PC, router for connection to internet
> etc.
>
> 2. Cost of software (licenses, maintenance, support)
> - s/w such as dreamweaver, FTP uploader etc.
>
> 3. Bandwidth costs (high-speed DSL line)
> 4. Space rental costs (office space, computer room, data center)
> - both these should be handled by web hosting company?
>
> 5. Electricity and other utilities
> - as any other business
>
> 6. Website design and development (work time or hiring costs)
> 7. Domain registry fees (if you're handling it yourself)
> 8. Handling costs (accounting, postage, supplies)
> 9. Your own workload
> - these seem to be main ones for me, the website design & development
>
> I could do with a web site creators perfect software toolbox: the
> software, webhosting company, languages to use etc. to get me going.
> Any ideas?
>

This is just the tip of the iceberg.

You have marketing costs, accounting costs (yours or an accountant), legal
costs, taxes, supplies (i.e. paper, pen[cil], toner/ink cartridges, etc.),
transportation (i.e. visiting customers). The list goes on. My accounting
package has > 200 categories for expenses alone.

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