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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:18 am
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I'm the administrator for my site, www.studioartifacts.com

My web host, Site Turn Networks, is seemingly out of business - or
next thing to. Their poor customer service has led me to wanting to
change providers, to Drizzle (a Seattle area provider). Problem is, I
can't get SiteTurn to respond to my requests to change my DNS
settings. Nor will they give me the necessary userid and password so I
could change it myself.

I've tried email repeatedly. I've tried faxing repeatedly. And I've
left numerous phone messages (they no longer answer the phone).
According to Reference USA, SiteTurn Networks had an address in CA at
one time. I've contacted Tucows (their wholesaler), but they haven't
been of any help.

Is there anything I can do? I own the domain name, and my business
depends upon having a host with same day tech support when I'm out of
town exhibiting at a trade show.

Thank you for your assistance

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 4:24 am
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"Mary" <mem DeleteThis @berfield.com> wrote in message
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<font color=purple> > I'm the administrator for my site, <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.studioartifacts.com</font" target="_blank">www.studioartifacts.com</font</a>>
 >
 > My web host, Site Turn Networks, is seemingly out of business - or
 > next thing to. Their poor customer service has led me to wanting to
 > change providers, to Drizzle (a Seattle area provider). Problem is, I
 > can't get SiteTurn to respond to my requests to change my DNS
 > settings. Nor will they give me the necessary userid and password so I
 > could change it myself.


They are an openSRS/Tucows reseller. Email compliance DeleteThis @opensrs.org from the
email address that is listed in the domain name record and complain. They
are generally very responsive when one of their RPSs aren't playing nice.
Wink

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 8:57 am
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On 2004-08-03, Tina - AffordableHOST, Inc. <tina.RemoveThis@affordablehost.com> wrote:
 >
 > "Mary" <mem.RemoveThis@berfield.com> wrote in message
 > news:f250f69.0408022118.78f555cc@posting.google.com...
<font color=green>  >> I'm the administrator for my site, <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.studioartifacts.com</font" target="_blank">www.studioartifacts.com</font</a>>
  >>
  >> My web host, Site Turn Networks, is seemingly out of business - or
  >> next thing to. Their poor customer service has led me to wanting to
  >> change providers, to Drizzle (a Seattle area provider). Problem is, I
  >> can't get SiteTurn to respond to my requests to change my DNS
  >> settings. Nor will they give me the necessary userid and password so I
  >> could change it myself.
 >
 >
 > They are an openSRS/Tucows reseller. Email compliance.RemoveThis@opensrs.org from the
 > email address that is listed in the domain name record and complain. They
 > are generally very responsive when one of their RPSs aren't playing nice.
 > Wink
 >
 > --Tina
 >

try this, I had the same problem once....go to:

manage.opensrs.net

click my account

Enter your domian name
Enter your user name, the once you use for your site
Enter the password you use for yopur site

You should be able to get in to the control panel and manage your own info.


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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 1:05 pm
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The continuing saga... I'm writing this up as a "how-to" guide for
other business people like myself who haven't been provided with the
user name and password needed to change your DNS info at
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://manage.opensrs.net" target="_blank">http://manage.opensrs.net</a>

1) Know what you need. For us, having access to live phone support for
the rare problem when we're out of town and without internet access is
critical.

2) Really check out target providers.

* Test their phone support as if you were a customer. Ask about an
easy problem you've had. What's the quality of their answer? If you
had to leave a message, when do they call back? When they called back,
did they answer the question?

* Test email support in the same way. If they refuse to answer the
question because you aren't a current customer, think about a
different provider.

* Where are they physically located? If you know, and they turn out to
be a bad selection, you can at least go see them so you can talk it
over with them over donuts or cookies.

3) Know who your "Registrar of Record:" is. Go to whois.net or
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.allwhois.com." target="_blank">www.allwhois.com.</a> Go to your registrar of record's web site and look
under support. Mine was Tucows.

The Tucows online support area provided some clues, but no
instructions for site owners with non-responsive web hosts
("resellers" in Tucows terminology). I emailed support about this
issue, but didn't get any new info. The key was to get someone on the
phone. Tucows doesn't have phone support or a full-time receptionist;
pick Sales to get a live body. Persistance pays; don't let them pass
you back to the circular phone menus. Per his instructions, I wrote a
note requesting your domain user name and password and faxed it as
requested.

4) Be a responsible business owner. Write a complaint letter to
compliance.RemoveThis@opensrs.org as Tina suggested.

Look for the remaining steps in the next post.

- Mary

----------------
FYI to the other responders. Thanks, I've already selected a new host
provider.


"Tina - AffordableHOST, Inc." <tina.RemoveThis@affordablehost.com> wrote in message news:<10gu8bo1rqvhd30.RemoveThis@corp.supernews.com>...
 > "Mary" <mem.RemoveThis@berfield.com> wrote in message
 > news:f250f69.0408022118.78f555cc@posting.google.com...
<font color=green>  > > I'm the administrator for my site, <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.studioartifacts.com</font" target="_blank">www.studioartifacts.com</font</a>>
  > >
  > > My web host, Site Turn Networks, is seemingly out of business - or
  > > next thing to. Their poor customer service has led me to wanting to
  > > change providers, to Drizzle (a Seattle area provider). Problem is, I
  > > can't get SiteTurn to respond to my requests to change my DNS
  > > settings. Nor will they give me the necessary userid and password so I
  > > could change it myself.
 >
 >
 > They are an openSRS/Tucows reseller. Email compliance.RemoveThis@opensrs.org from the
 > email address that is listed in the domain name record and complain. They
 > are generally very responsive when one of their RPSs aren't playing nice.
 > Wink
 >
 > --Tina<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:20 pm
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in post: <news:f250f69.0408022118.78f555cc@posting.google.com>
Mary <mem.TakeThisOut@berfield.com> said:

 > My web host, Site Turn Networks, is seemingly out of business Problem
 > is, I can't get SiteTurn to respond to my requests to change my DNS
 > settings.

if you hadn't been foolish and combined your host/registrar it wouldn't
be an issue. you also you need a larger range of poly clay kits.

 > Is there anything I can do?

i recommend moving to <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://AffordableHOST.com/" target="_blank">http://AffordableHOST.com/</a> for hosting and for
domain rego people seem happy with <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://godaddy.com/" target="_blank">http://godaddy.com/</a>

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:20 pm
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: Mary said:
: : Is there anything I can do?

Or you could try Page-Zone hosting : http://www.page-zone.com/
and use Directnic to register your domain: http://www.directnic.com/

I have used both for years now and they have never done my wrong.
After this much time I don't believe they will either...


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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:20 pm
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brucie wrote:

  >>Is there anything I can do?
 >
 >
 > i recommend moving to <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://AffordableHOST.com/" target="_blank">http://AffordableHOST.com/</a> for hosting and for
<font color=purple> > domain rego people seem happy with <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://godaddy.com/</font" target="_blank">http://godaddy.com/</font</a>>
 >

....or if you want a Windows host, goto <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.easycgi.com" target="_blank">www.easycgi.com</a>



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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:20 pm
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On Tue, 03 Aug 2004 09:05:58 +0100 SpaceGirl
<NOspaceSPAMgirl RemoveThis @subhuman.net> broke off from drinking a cup of tea at
to write:

 >brucie wrote:
 >
   >>>Is there anything I can do?
  >>
  >>
  >> i recommend moving to <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://AffordableHOST.com/" target="_blank">http://AffordableHOST.com/</a> for hosting and for
<font color=green>  >> domain rego people seem happy with <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://godaddy.com/</font" target="_blank">http://godaddy.com/</font</a>>
  >>
 >
<font color=purple> >...or if you want a Windows host, goto <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.easycgi.com</font" target="_blank">www.easycgi.com</font</a>>
 >

Heck, might as well join the passing bandwagon, there's also:

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.jwshosting.com" target="_blank">www.jwshosting.com</a>

and

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.tera-byte.com" target="_blank">www.tera-byte.com</a>

oh and

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.123-reg.co.uk" target="_blank">www.123-reg.co.uk</a>

for domain registration

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:37 pm
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in post: <news:giGPc.29253$Gk4.23466@fe1.texas.rr.com>
Sexy Heidi <blackcat2.DeleteThis@gmail.com> said:

<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.page-zone.com/</font" target="_blank">http://www.page-zone.com/</font</a>>

i was hosted by them until recently but i got dissatisfied with their
server response times and the only time i used support it took 2
attempts to get a reply over a week later.

<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.directnic.com/</font" target="_blank">http://www.directnic.com/</font</a>>

do they allow you to cancel domains?

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:37 pm
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Charging up on a white horse brucie said:

: in post: <news:giGPc.29253$Gk4.23466@fe1.texas.rr.com>
: Sexy Heidi <blackcat2 DeleteThis @gmail.com> said:

Sexy Heidi? *BLUSH*

: i was hosted by them until recently but i got dissatisfied with their
: server response times and the only time i used support it took 2
: attempts to get a reply over a week later.

Well the server response times for me are great and I never wait more
than 24 hours for a response to my support requests which I think is
reasonable.
Often it is far less than 24 hours.


: do they allow you to cancel domains?

Good question. To be honest I have never cancelled one so I would not know.
I guess I could browse around the site/help/FAQ etc. and check...


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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 7:37 pm
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"brucie" <shit.DeleteThis@usenetshit.info> wrote in message
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 > in post: <news:giGPc.29253$Gk4.23466@fe1.texas.rr.com>
 > Sexy Heidi <blackcat2.DeleteThis@gmail.com> said:
 >
<font color=green>  >> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.page-zone.com/</font" target="_blank">http://www.page-zone.com/</font</a>>
 >
 > i was hosted by them until recently but i got dissatisfied with their
 > server response times and the only time i used support it took 2
 > attempts to get a reply over a week later.

Hmm...I never had such problems with support. Including one time I
foolishly let my main site exceed bandwidth limit and it went offline. And
another time I had to request that extra bandwidth be available because of
the possibility of a huge number of hits due to 20/20 on ABC-TV doing a
report on Coricidin. While that latter resulted in a large surge in traffic,
it wasn't anywhere as bad as I feared.

As for server response times, I've never noticed that to be an issue.
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 10:18 pm
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"brucie" <shit DeleteThis @usenetshit.info> wrote in message
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 > in post: <news:giGPc.29253$Gk4.23466@fe1.texas.rr.com>
 > Sexy Heidi <blackcat2 DeleteThis @gmail.com> said:
 >
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.page-zone.com/</font" target="_blank">http://www.page-zone.com/</font</a>>
 >
 > i was hosted by them until recently but i got dissatisfied with their
 > server response times and the only time i used support it took 2
 > attempts to get a reply over a week later.

Well, Brucie, if you were hosted with me you could get to hear all the
voices you need - PLUS - being just across the ditch response times would
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 10:18 pm
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Bill Logan <who.RemoveThis@what.com> said:

 > Well, Brucie, if you were hosted with me you could get to hear all the
 > voices you need

"baaaaa baaaaa" gets to grate on my nerves after a few hours.

 > PLUS - being just across the ditch response times would
 > be cut to less time than it takes to secure the tri-nations:-)

i don't care what my response times are, i want good response times for
the majority of my visitors who are in the northern hemisphere.

if your servers are in the northern hemi i would have checked you out
but you haven't got your url in your sig so i forgot you were a host.

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 10:18 pm
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brucie <shit.TakeThisOut@usenetshit.info> said:

 > if your servers are in the northern hemi i would have checked you out
 > but you haven't got your url in your sig so i forgot you were a host.

and i cant remember your url but i do remember thinking your site design
was icky poo last time i saw it.

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 10:19 pm
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Mary wrote:

[web hosts]

 > ...
 > * Test their phone support ...
 >
 > * Test email support ...
 >
 > * Where are they physically located? If you know, and they turn out to
 > be a bad selection, you can at least go see them so you can talk it
 > over with them over donuts or cookies.

Splendid advice - there'd be a lot less problems if more people took the
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