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John,

Ok, let's word it this way. Posting this ad is a violation of your ISP's
"e-Mail Acceptable Use Policy". Read it at:

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.plus.net/info2/legal/legal_stuff-aup-useofemail.html" target="_blank">http://www.plus.net/info2/legal/legal_stuff-aup-useofemail.html</a>

Pay special attention to paragraph seven that says, "You may not use your
e-mail to post unsolicited messages to groups of people, nor may you
operate an Open Relay".

This is a group of people and you could loose your ISP account if you keep
it up and someone reports you to your ISP.


Sincerely,

Duane Hinkley
Down Home Web Design, Inc.
(208) 424-0572 Fax(208) 587-0738

duane DeleteThis @downhomewebdesign.com
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.downhomewebdesign.com" target="_blank">www.downhomewebdesign.com</a>

On Tue, 8 Jul 2003, From the Desk of John Ellis wrote:

 > Hello
 >
 > Why send email wait for up to 24 or even 48 hours for a response?
 >
 > Why not get LIVE support added to your site.
 >
 > Come see NOW
 >
 > I will be there for the next 1 hour only to show you.
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.ringsms.co.uk/voice/live.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.ringsms.co.uk/voice/live.html</font</a>>
 >
 > I look foward to talking to you
 >
 > John
 >
 >
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Duane Hinkley wrote:
 > John,
 >
 > Ok, let's word it this way. Posting this ad is a violation of your
 > ISP's "e-Mail Acceptable Use Policy". Read it at:
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.plus.net/info2/legal/legal_stuff-aup-useofemail.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.plus.net/info2/legal/legal_stuff-aup-useofemail.html</font</a>>
 >
 > Pay special attention to paragraph seven that says, "You may not use
 > your e-mail to post unsolicited messages to groups of people, nor may
 > you operate an Open Relay".
 >
 > This is a group of people and you could loose your ISP account if you
 > keep it up and someone reports you to your ISP.

This isn't e-mail. By the nature of Usenet, posts starting new threads
will be unsolicited.
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Well I am NOT Spamming I am offering a service and YES I am there.
If you click on one of the pics that say LIVE SUPPORT CLICK HERE.

You CAN talk to me and I look forward to talking to you
I will be there for a further 15 minutes

John
"elyob" <newsprofile.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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 >
 > "From the Desk of John Ellis" <john.TakeThisOut@kbe2000.plus.net> wrote in message
 > news:29EOa.46301$9C6.2341226@wards.force9.net...
  > > Hello
  > >
  > > I will be there for the next 1 hour only to show you.
  > >
  > > I look foward to talking to you
  > >
 >
 > Damn, couldn't find you ... *I* was looking forward to talking to you.
 >
 > To let you know that you're spamming ****.
 >
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"From the Desk of John Ellis" <john.TakeThisOut@kbe2000.plus.net> wrote in message
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 > Well I am NOT Spamming I am offering a service and YES I am there.
 > If you click on one of the pics that say LIVE SUPPORT CLICK HERE.

You most certainly are spamming. This is a newsgroup, not your fucking
billboard.
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That's what I really like about this world
Everyone has there own opinions

This is a newsgroup for webmasters.
As we both are..you prefer to sit there and give replies like that all day.
that's fair enough.

I am just offering webmasters an alternative way to contact everyone.

John



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 > "From the Desk of John Ellis" <john.DeleteThis@kbe2000.plus.net> wrote in message
 > news:EGEOa.46307$9C6.2342837@wards.force9.net...
 >
  > > Well I am NOT Spamming I am offering a service and YES I am there.
  > > If you click on one of the pics that say LIVE SUPPORT CLICK HERE.
 >
 > You most certainly are spamming. This is a newsgroup, not your fucking
 > billboard.
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 >
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"From the Desk of John Ellis" <john.RemoveThis@kbe2000.plus.net> wrote in message
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 > That's what I really like about this world
 > Everyone has there own opinions

People older tham 7 who have not yet grasped the concept of homophones are
not allowed to have opinions.
We're sorry. Go back to 2nd grade, where children are taught homophones, and
come back when you've gotten that part down


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"From the Desk of John Ellis" <john RemoveThis @kbe2000.plus.net> wrote in message
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 > That's what I really like about this world
 > Everyone has there own opinions

And that's why I decided to contact
abuse RemoveThis @plus.net.uk so they could express their opinion is on this issue.
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"From the Desk of John Ellis" <john RemoveThis @kbe2000.plus.net> wrote in message
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 > That's what I really like about this world
 > Everyone has there own opinions
 >
 > This is a newsgroup for webmasters.
 > As we both are..you prefer to sit there and give replies like that all
day.
 > that's fair enough.
 >
 > I am just offering webmasters an alternative way to contact everyone.

There are ways and means of doing it. Most acceptable is to participate in
the group, and carry your service in your sig.

What you posted was a blatant ad.

BTW. Some people get very touchy about top-posted replies.
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From the Desk of John Ellis schrieb:
 >
 > That's what I really like about this world
 > Everyone has there own opinions
 >
 > This is a newsgroup for webmasters.
 > As we both are..you prefer to sit there and give replies like that all day.
 > that's fair enough.
 >
 > I am just offering webmasters an alternative way to contact everyone.

In here your advertising just pisses off webmasters - you should post
affiliate spam in alt.www.webmaster.ads instead.

Hmm, come to think of it, pissing off potential customers IS an
alternative way of contacting them...


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Well I think every one has had there say in this now perhaps I can get back
to some work now.

Thanks for the info folks...It is just a pity that you lot who are so
knowledgeable decide to come right of the dark and threaten everyone on
there first posts.

Instead why not make some more useful critisism and send a decent reply to
those that are not as so educated in the realms of this.

As suggested I have posted the info in webmaster ads.

Al I can say is hat I had a great discussion with quite a few people who saw
the other side of things.

So no I wont be making any more NEW Threads that ADVERTISE things here
BUT I DIDN'T say I wont reply to a few

John

"rfgdxm/Robert F. Golaszewski" <rfgdxm.DeleteThis@mochamail.com> wrote in message
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 > Duane Hinkley wrote:
  > > John,
  > >
  > > Ok, let's word it this way. Posting this ad is a violation of your
  > > ISP's "e-Mail Acceptable Use Policy". Read it at:
  > >
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.plus.net/info2/legal/legal_stuff-aup-useofemail.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.plus.net/info2/legal/legal_stuff-aup-useofemail.html</font</a>>
  > >
  > > Pay special attention to paragraph seven that says, "You may not use
  > > your e-mail to post unsolicited messages to groups of people, nor may
  > > you operate an Open Relay".
  > >
  > > This is a group of people and you could loose your ISP account if you
  > > keep it up and someone reports you to your ISP.
 >
 > This isn't e-mail. By the nature of Usenet, posts starting new threads
 > will be unsolicited.
 > --
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 > For information about the psychedelic drug DXM, including dangers.
 >
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From the Desk of John Ellis wrote:

  >>Duane Hinkley wrote:
  >>
   >>>Ok, let's word it this way. Posting this ad is a violation of your
   >>>ISP's "e-Mail Acceptable Use Policy". Read it at:
   >>>
   >>>http://www.plus.net/info2/legal/legal_stuff-aup-useofemail.html
   >>>
   >>>Pay special attention to paragraph seven that says, "You may not use
   >>>your e-mail to post unsolicited messages to groups of people, nor may
   >>>you operate an Open Relay".
   >>>
   >>>This is a group of people and you could loose your ISP account if you
   >>>keep it up and someone reports you to your ISP.

<snipped incorrectly delimited sig>
<fixed top-posting>
<snipped irrelevant parts>

  > Well I think every one has had there say in this now perhaps I can
  > get back to some work now.

Not every one has, or this thread would be way too long...

  > Thanks for the info folks...It is just a pity that you lot who are
  > so knowledgeable decide to come right of the dark and threaten
  > everyone on there first posts.

Not everyone, just people that are spamming...

  > Instead why not make some more useful critisism and send a decent
  > reply to those that are not as so educated in the realms of this.

OK:

* stop top-posting

* "right of the dark" reads as if it should have been "right out of the
dark"

* "there first posts" should have been "their first posts"

* "Al I can say is hat" reads as if you are angry, try calming down
first and then write "All I can say is that"

* "had a great discussion with quite a few people" should have been "had
great discussions with quite a few people"

  > As suggested I have posted the info in webmaster ads.
  >
  > Al I can say is hat I had a great discussion with quite a few people
  > who saw the other side of things.

And that, my friend, would be my "useful critisism" to you.

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"From the Desk of John Ellis" <john.DeleteThis@kbe2000.plus.net> wrote in message
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 > Well I think every one has had there say in this now perhaps I can get
back
 > to some work now.
 >
 > Thanks for the info folks...It is just a pity that you lot who are so
 > knowledgeable decide to come right of the dark and threaten everyone on
 > there first posts.

It's just a pity that someone who claims to be offering a web service could
be so clueless as to how Usenet or the Internet operates. I suggest you do a
search on any search engine for Usenet netiquette. Pay particular attention
to advertising and top posting.


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On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 21:56:47 +0100, "From the Desk of John Ellis"
<john.TakeThisOut@kbe2000.plus.net> wrote:

 >Well I think

Try harder
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