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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 3:04 pm Post subject: Speaking of E-Commerce Archived from groups: alt>www>webmaster (more info?)

Is there a big market for e-commerce site generating software?......I'm wondering how viable it would be for me to create a visual basic app that would take a users input and create a shopping cart system based on the code I've been using for the last couple of sites I've done..... Would something like this sell?..... -- Sam. www.doohickeys.co.uk for desirable devices --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.658 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 09/04/2004 >> Stay informed about: Speaking of E-Commerce

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Apr 20, 2004 4:57 pm Post subject: Re: Speaking of E-Commerce [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 12:04:26 +0100, Fat Sam wrote: > Is there a big market for e-commerce site generating software?......I'm > wondering how viable it would be for me to create a visual basic app that > would take a users input and create a shopping cart system based on the code > I've been using for the last couple of sites I've done..... > Would something like this sell?..... VB is a bad choice. This means it's going to be cgi which is not scalable and VB wasn't meant for creating internet apps. If you want to use a MS product, use asp or asp.net. -- Karim <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.cheapesthosting.com" target="_blank">http://www.cheapesthosting.com</a> - Innovative Web Hosting since 1998<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Speaking of E-Commerce

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:30 am Post subject: Re: Speaking of E-Commerce [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

in post: <news:c63065$7an1e$1@ID-227183.news.uni-berlin.de> "Fat Sam" <janetandsam.TakeThisOut@btbroadband.com> said: > Is there a big market for e-commerce site generating software? it would be nice to be able to recommend one that didn't resemble a pile of crap just thrown together. > wondering how viable it would be for me to create a visual basic app i would avoid proprietary MS. what about python? -- b r u c i e<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Speaking of E-Commerce

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:30 am Post subject: Re: Speaking of E-Commerce [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"brucie" <shit.DeleteThis@bruciesusenetshit.info> wrote in message news:c631jd$5qo89$1@ID-117621.news.uni-berlin.de... > in post: <news:c63065$7an1e$1@ID-227183.news.uni-berlin.de> > "Fat Sam" <janetandsam.DeleteThis@btbroadband.com> said: > > > Is there a big market for e-commerce site generating software? > > it would be nice to be able to recommend one that didn't resemble a pile > of crap just thrown together. I'm thinking of a simple interface......Enter your products, a description, and a cost....Maybe link a load of items that are related....Include options for offers and promotions......Build in a handfull of templates, and maybe the option to generate simple custom designs......And make it compatible with a handfull of payment gateways..... > > wondering how viable it would be for me to create a visual basic app > > i would avoid proprietary MS. what about python? Never used it......I can blag my way through with VB and a couple of reference books.....It python a hard language to get to grips with?.... -- Sam. <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.doohickeys.co.uk" target="_blank">www.doohickeys.co.uk</a> for desirable devices --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.658 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 09/04/2004<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Speaking of E-Commerce

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:30 am Post subject: Re: Speaking of E-Commerce [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 12:54:55 +0100, Fat Sam wrote: > > "brucie" <shit.TakeThisOut@bruciesusenetshit.info> wrote in message > news:c631jd$5qo89$1@ID-117621.news.uni-berlin.de... >> in post: <news:c63065$7an1e$1@ID-227183.news.uni-berlin.de> >> "Fat Sam" <janetandsam.TakeThisOut@btbroadband.com> said: >> >>> Is there a big market for e-commerce site generating software? >> >> it would be nice to be able to recommend one that didn't resemble a pile >> of crap just thrown together. > > I'm thinking of a simple interface......Enter your products, a description, > and a cost....Maybe link a load of items that are related....Include options > for offers and promotions......Build in a handfull of templates, and maybe > the option to generate simple custom designs......And make it compatible > with a handfull of payment gateways..... > >>> wondering how viable it would be for me to create a visual basic app >> >> i would avoid proprietary MS. what about python? > > Never used it......I can blag my way through with VB and a couple of > reference books.....It python a hard language to get to grips with?.... Stay away from obscure languages like Python. I am not saying it's not good but the resources on it are much more limited than for a widely used language like PHP. From my understandinig of your specs, this product has ben done many times. Unless you offer something unique and desirable, you're wasting your time. Do some research and see what competitive products offer. -- Karim <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.cheapesthosting.com" target="_blank">http://www.cheapesthosting.com</a> - Innovative Web Hosting since 1998<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Speaking of E-Commerce

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:12 am Post subject: Re: Speaking of E-Commerce [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Karim" <karim3411@!!yahoo!!.com> wrote in message news:1wx1a09cu7ys7.1jjqp6usjjelp.dlg@40tude.net... > On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 12:04:26 +0100, Fat Sam wrote: > > > Is there a big market for e-commerce site generating software?......I'm > > wondering how viable it would be for me to create a visual basic app that > > would take a users input and create a shopping cart system based on the code > > I've been using for the last couple of sites I've done..... > > Would something like this sell?..... > > VB is a bad choice. This means it's going to be cgi which is not scalable > and VB wasn't meant for creating internet apps. If you want to use a MS > product, use asp or asp.net. It's not going to be an internet app Karim.....I'm planing on putting together some sort of programme that a user will install on their system and use like any other windows programme.....It will create the entire shopping cart for them from a range of data that they enter, and then they only need to upload the files to their webspace.....I suppose I could read up on that too and build in some sort of uploader too...... But it won't be an online thing.....Definitely a desktop application..... -- Sam. <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.doohickeys.co.uk" target="_blank">www.doohickeys.co.uk</a> for desirable devices --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.658 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 09/04/2004<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Speaking of E-Commerce

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:12 am Post subject: Re: Speaking of E-Commerce [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 22:12:12 +0100, Snake Lady wrote: > > "Karim" <karim3411@!!yahoo!!.com> wrote in message > news:1wx1a09cu7ys7.1jjqp6usjjelp.dlg@40tude.net... >> On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 12:04:26 +0100, Fat Sam wrote: >> >>> Is there a big market for e-commerce site generating software?......I'm >>> wondering how viable it would be for me to create a visual basic app > that >>> would take a users input and create a shopping cart system based on the > code >>> I've been using for the last couple of sites I've done..... >>> Would something like this sell?..... >> >> VB is a bad choice. This means it's going to be cgi which is not scalable >> and VB wasn't meant for creating internet apps. If you want to use a MS >> product, use asp or asp.net. > > It's not going to be an internet app Karim.....I'm planing on putting > together some sort of programme that a user will install on their system and > use like any other windows programme.....It will create the entire shopping > cart for them from a range of data that they enter, and then they only need > to upload the files to their webspace.....I suppose I could read up on that > too and build in some sort of uploader too...... > But it won't be an online thing.....Definitely a desktop application..... What language would be running on the web server, the backend? I would it this online so you're not restricted to Windows users only. -- Karim <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.cheapesthosting.com" target="_blank">http://www.cheapesthosting.com</a> - Innovative Web Hosting since 1998<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Speaking of E-Commerce

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:12 am Post subject: Re: Speaking of E-Commerce [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Snake Lady wrote: > But it won't be an online thing.....Definitely a desktop application..... You will run into people who won't know how to test it locally or how to upload it intact.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Speaking of E-Commerce

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:22 am Post subject: Re: Speaking of E-Commerce [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

in post: <news:c6334r$7eq24$1@ID-227183.news.uni-berlin.de> "Fat Sam" <janetandsam DeleteThis @btbroadband.com> said: > It python a hard language to get to grips with?.... its probably the easiest. the syntax is very minimalist. the only thing that will probably keep catching you out is indentation which is required and must match when grouping statements. <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://python.org/" target="_blank">http://python.org/</a> also have a look at <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.zope.org/" target="_blank">http://www.zope.org/</a> -- b r u c i e<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Speaking of E-Commerce

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:22 am Post subject: Re: Speaking of E-Commerce [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"brucie" <shit.DeleteThis@bruciesusenetshit.info> wrote in message news:c634kj$7df9f$1@ID-117621.news.uni-berlin.de... > in post: <news:c6334r$7eq24$1@ID-227183.news.uni-berlin.de> > "Fat Sam" <janetandsam.DeleteThis@btbroadband.com> said: > > > It python a hard language to get to grips with?.... > > its probably the easiest. the syntax is very minimalist. the only thing > that will probably keep catching you out is indentation which is > required and must match when grouping statements. > <font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://python.org/" target="_blank">http://python.org/</a> also have a look at <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.zope.org/</font" target="_blank">http://www.zope.org/</font</a>> I'll check that out....Cheers Brucie..... -- Sam. <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.doohickeys.co.uk" target="_blank">www.doohickeys.co.uk</a> for desirable devices --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.658 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 09/04/2004<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Speaking of E-Commerce

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:53 am Post subject: Re: Speaking of E-Commerce [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Karim wrote: > Stay away from obscure languages like Python. I am not saying it's not > good but the resources on it are much more limited than for a widely used > language like PHP. From my understandinig of your specs, this product has > ben done many times. Unless you offer something unique and desirable, > you're wasting your time. Do some research and see what competitive > products offer. > > What is wrong with python? My sugesstion is to use PHP or perl -- The email address above is phony because my penis is already large enough, kthx.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Speaking of E-Commerce

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 1:53 am Post subject: Re: Speaking of E-Commerce [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 22:53:34 GMT, Baho Utot wrote: > Karim wrote: > > >> Stay away from obscure languages like Python. I am not saying it's not >> good but the resources on it are much more limited than for a widely used >> language like PHP. From my understandinig of your specs, this product has >> ben done many times. Unless you offer something unique and desirable, >> you're wasting your time. Do some research and see what competitive >> products offer. >> >> > > What is wrong with python? > > My sugesstion is to use PHP or perl Like I said, Phython resources are not plenty. You want plenty of ready made scripts in anything you want? You look at php, not Phython. And I did say Python is not a bad language. -- Karim <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.cheapesthosting.com" target="_blank">http://www.cheapesthosting.com</a> - Innovative Web Hosting since 1998<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Speaking of E-Commerce

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 2:26 am Post subject: Re: Speaking of E-Commerce [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

While sitting in a puddle Baho Utot scribbled in the mud: >> > Baho, did you just have a wee bit of a cyclone neer you? -- Duende<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Speaking of E-Commerce

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 3:26 am Post subject: Re: Speaking of E-Commerce [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Karim" <karim3411@!!yahoo!!.com> wrote in message news:nqh5rllkm8z3.eg0j3wblapm1.dlg@40tude.net... > On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 22:12:12 +0100, Snake Lady wrote: > > > > > "Karim" <karim3411@!!yahoo!!.com> wrote in message > > news:1wx1a09cu7ys7.1jjqp6usjjelp.dlg@40tude.net... > >> On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 12:04:26 +0100, Fat Sam wrote: > >> > >>> Is there a big market for e-commerce site generating software?......I'm > >>> wondering how viable it would be for me to create a visual basic app > > that > >>> would take a users input and create a shopping cart system based on the > > code > >>> I've been using for the last couple of sites I've done..... > >>> Would something like this sell?..... > >> > >> VB is a bad choice. This means it's going to be cgi which is not scalable > >> and VB wasn't meant for creating internet apps. If you want to use a MS > >> product, use asp or asp.net. > > > > It's not going to be an internet app Karim.....I'm planing on putting > > together some sort of programme that a user will install on their system and > > use like any other windows programme.....It will create the entire shopping > > cart for them from a range of data that they enter, and then they only need > > to upload the files to their webspace.....I suppose I could read up on that > > too and build in some sort of uploader too...... > > But it won't be an online thing.....Definitely a desktop application..... > > What language would be running on the web server, the backend? > I would it this online so you're not restricted to Windows users only. The code it would spit out would be ASP, simply because that's what I'm most familiar with.....I definitely want to go down the route of a desktop app with this one....Basically, I want to create something that appeals to business owners, retailers and market stall traders who have only an average or even below average level of IT literacy, but which will still allow them to get their foot on the first rung of the e-commerce ladder without breaking the bank in the process......I see that demographic as predominanly windows users..... -- Sam. <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.doohickeys.co.uk" target="_blank">www.doohickeys.co.uk</a> for desirable devices --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.658 / Virus Database: 421 - Release Date: 10/04/2004<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Speaking of E-Commerce

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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Apr 21, 2004 12:03 pm Post subject: Re: Speaking of E-Commerce [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Snake Lady wrote: > "Karim" <karim3411@!!yahoo!!.com> wrote in message > news:1wx1a09cu7ys7.1jjqp6usjjelp.dlg@40tude.net... >> On Tue, 20 Apr 2004 12:04:26 +0100, Fat Sam wrote: >> >>> Is there a big market for e-commerce site generating >>> software?......I'm wondering how viable it would be for me to >>> create a visual basic app that would take a users input and create >>> a shopping cart system based on the code I've been using for the >>> last couple of sites I've done..... >>> Would something like this sell?..... >> >> VB is a bad choice. This means it's going to be cgi which is not >> scalable and VB wasn't meant for creating internet apps. If you want >> to use a MS product, use asp or asp.net. > > It's not going to be an internet app Karim.....I'm planing on putting > together some sort of programme that a user will install on their > system and use like any other windows programme.....It will create > the entire shopping cart for them from a range of data that they > enter, and then they only need to upload the files to their > webspace.....I suppose I could read up on that too and build in some > sort of uploader too...... > But it won't be an online thing.....Definitely a desktop > application..... Perhaps not exactly what you are planning but take a look at Actinic <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.actinic.co.uk" target="_blank">http://www.actinic.co.uk</a> There are a good many other similar products out there. Neil<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Speaking of E-Commerce

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