Review on article on website design required

In article <1056835682.778894.TakeThisOut@halkan.kabelfoon.nl>, John Bokma says...
 > I have written a small article on does and don'ts (mainly the latter) on
 > website design:
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://johnbokma.com/websitedesign/</font" target="_blank">http://johnbokma.com/websitedesign/</font</a>>
 >
 > It is preliminary and the main thing I want is bad English (UK) errors
 > and spelling errors out of it.

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://johnbokma.com/websitedesign/intrusion.html" target="_blank">http://johnbokma.com/websitedesign/intrusion.html</a>

2.4 Requiring a browser

"Try to design your website to work with as much browsers as possible."

As many?

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Holding it in for one more second John Bokma replied:

: I have written a small article on does and don'ts (mainly the latter)
: on
: website design:
:
: http://johnbokma.com/websitedesign/
:
: It is preliminary and the main thing I want is bad English (UK) errors
: and spelling errors out of it. I hope to add some more points the
: coming
: week (don't need suggestions for things to add at this stage have
: enough
: stuff to write down for now, thanks).
:
: Many thanks,
: John

In this section:
http://johnbokma.com/websitedesign/intrusion.html

You either forgot or perhaps did not know about those lovely sites
I have come across lately.

What happens is I click a link in an email to visit a website. I see the
site
for a bit then try to move on by clicking another link in an email...

Problem is that somehow that site prevents me from seeing the newly
clicked link in that same window even though I have done that hundreds
of thousands of times before. Instead it seems to force the new clicked link
to open in a new window which does not happen since I have a pop up stopper.

So that leaves me having to press 'home' first to clear that site out and
then I can
click the link and view the new site in that same window.

How they do this I have not a clue. I have never bothered to look but it
annoys
the hell out of me every damn time. >

Maybe you have found a site like this or know how they do it. If you have
never
come across one then I am truly happy for you.

As for the article. Sounds good so far.

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On this page:
http://johnbokma.com/websitedesign/scripting.html

Is this typo under section 5.1:
At the server the values are checked and when one or more entries are not
valid "" feed back"" on the errors are given to the visitor

feed back should be one word. You have it spelled correctly further down.
Hope this helps.

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John Bokma wrote:
 > ...
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://johnbokma.com/websitedesign/</font" target="_blank">http://johnbokma.com/websitedesign/</font</a>>
 >
 > It is preliminary and the main thing I want is bad English (UK) errors
 > and spelling errors out of it ...

when I am satisfied about the English version
when I am satisfied with the English version
==
designers either professional or amateur should
designers, either professional or amateur, should
==
this are the rules
these are rules
==

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On or around Sat, 28 Jun 2003 23:27:52 +0200, there was a message,
possibly from John Bokma <postmaster.TakeThisOut@castleamber.com>, as follows:

 >I have written a small article on does and don'ts (mainly the latter) on
 >website design:
 >
 >http://johnbokma.com/websitedesign/
 >
 >It is preliminary and the main thing I want is bad English (UK) errors
 >and spelling errors out of it. I hope to add some more points the coming
 >week (don't need suggestions for things to add at this stage have enough
 >stuff to write down for now, thanks).
 >
 >Many thanks,
 >John

"...an URL..."
Since 'URL' is usually pronounced 'yew ahr ell', not 'earl', it should
probably be 'a URL'.

"This is bad practice" is correct, but
"this is a bad practice" is more idiomatic.

Under 'Flocking',
"it contributes to nothing" should be "it contributes nothing."

2.8 New Window
The reason given doesn't mention 'accessibility' -- it isn't
forgetfulness that is the reason for not opening new windows.

3.1 Back
The position seems a bit too strong. See
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.mbstevens.com/howtothumb/index.html#backbutton" target="_blank">http://www.mbstevens.com/howtothumb/index.html#backbutton</a>

5 Client Side Scripting
"...there are also good things possible with..." is correct, but
"...good things are also possible with..." is more idiomatic.

Nice article.

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Charles Sweeney wrote:

 > "John Bokma" <postmaster.RemoveThis@castleamber.com> wrote in message
 > news:1056835682.778894@halkan.kabelfoon.nl...
 >
  >>I have written a small article on does and don'ts (mainly the latter) on
  >>website design:
  >>
  >>http://johnbokma.com/websitedesign/

[snip]

 > Wise words! Don't think you will get many arguments here!

Thanks Charles!

 > Too much to review for English, but I did notice "so called splash screen".
 > I think this should be written "so-called splash screen".

Yes, you are right. Found 4 occurences and they have been corrected. Thanks!

 > Great work.

Thanks again!

John

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Daniel Ruscoe wrote:

 > In article <1056835682.778894.TakeThisOut@halkan.kabelfoon.nl>, John Bokma says...
 >
  >>I have written a small article on does and don'ts (mainly the latter) on
  >>website design:
  >>
  >>http://johnbokma.com/websitedesign/
  >>
  >>It is preliminary and the main thing I want is bad English (UK) errors
  >>and spelling errors out of it.
 >
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://johnbokma.com/websitedesign/intrusion.html</font" target="_blank">http://johnbokma.com/websitedesign/intrusion.html</font</a>>
 >
 > 2.4 Requiring a browser
 >
 > "Try to design your website to work with as much browsers as possible."
 >
 > As many?

Thanks Daniel! Changed (twice) and uploaded

John

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William Tasso wrote:

 > John Bokma wrote:
 >
  >>...
  >>http://johnbokma.com/websitedesign/
  >>
  >>It is preliminary and the main thing I want is bad English (UK) errors
  >>and spelling errors out of it ...

[snip 3 errors]

Thanks William,
John

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John,

It looks like there is too much "I" in your essay/article.

Find a way around saying "I have found" or "I think" as often as you
have. Otherwise the writing style is above par for amateur web
writers. It flows nicely.



Caz
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Heidi wrote:

 > Holding it in for one more second John Bokma replied:
 >
 > : I have written a small article on does and don'ts (mainly the latter)
 > : on
 > : website design:
 > :
<font color=purple> > : <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://johnbokma.com/websitedesign/</font" target="_blank">http://johnbokma.com/websitedesign/</font</a>>
 > :
 > : It is preliminary and the main thing I want is bad English (UK) errors
 > : and spelling errors out of it. I hope to add some more points the
 > : coming
 > : week (don't need suggestions for things to add at this stage have
 > : enough
 > : stuff to write down for now, thanks).
 > :
 > : Many thanks,
 > : John
 >
 > In this section:
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://johnbokma.com/websitedesign/intrusion.html</font" target="_blank">http://johnbokma.com/websitedesign/intrusion.html</font</a>>
 >
 > You either forgot or perhaps did not know about those lovely sites
 > I have come across lately.

.

 > What happens is I click a link in an email to visit a website. I see the
 > site
 > for a bit then try to move on by clicking another link in an email...

? I don't understand this.

 > Problem is that somehow that site prevents me from seeing the newly
 > clicked link in that same window even though I have done that hundreds
 > of thousands of times before. Instead it seems to force the new clicked link
 > to open in a new window which does not happen since I have a pop up stopper.

You mean that:

(1) You visit a site via a link
(2) You visit another site but this one doesn't open because you suspect
the first site somehow forces the new site to open in a new window
(which can't happen due to the popup stopper?).

 > So that leaves me having to press 'home' first to clear that site out and
 > then I can
 > click the link and view the new site in that same window.

Weird. Please email me an example. It sounds a bit like the "back"
killer. I guess it is a kind of "on exit" handler written in JavaScript.

 > As for the article. Sounds good so far.

Thanks,
John

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Holding it in for one more second John Bokma replied:
: You mean that:
:
: (1) You visit a site via a link
: (2) You visit another site but this one doesn't open because you
: suspect
: the first site somehow forces the new site to open in a new window
: (which can't happen due to the popup stopper?).

Yes exactly, I have only tested this with links in emails.

: Weird. Please email me an example. It sounds a bit like the "back"
: killer. I guess it is a kind of "on exit" handler written in
: JavaScript.

Okay here is one that does that:
http://www.offerstream.com/ad/568/CD32/&dp=433&l=

And here is another link just for testing purposes:
http://www.page-zone.com/

And if murphy's law takes effect and it doesn't work I will
be most peeved. I just tested it out a minute or two ago
and I could not open a new link in the same window after
loading the first link. Be sure to let the top link load completely.

Heidi

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Heidi wrote:

 > On this page:
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://johnbokma.com/websitedesign/scripting.html</font" target="_blank">http://johnbokma.com/websitedesign/scripting.html</font</a>>
 >
 > Is this typo under section 5.1:
 > At the server the values are checked and when one or more entries are not
 > valid "" feed back"" on the errors are given to the visitor
 >
 > feed back should be one word. You have it spelled correctly further down.
 > Hope this helps.

Yes! And thanks (updated)

John

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m wrote:

 > On or around Sat, 28 Jun 2003 23:27:52 +0200, there was a message,
 > possibly from John Bokma <postmaster.RemoveThis@castleamber.com>, as follows:
 >
 >
  >>I have written a small article on does and don'ts (mainly the latter) on
  >>website design:
  >>
  >>http://johnbokma.com/websitedesign/
  >>
  >>It is preliminary and the main thing I want is bad English (UK) errors
  >>and spelling errors out of it. I hope to add some more points the coming
  >>week (don't need suggestions for things to add at this stage have enough
  >>stuff to write down for now, thanks).
  >>
  >>Many thanks,
  >>John
 >
 >
 > "...an URL..."
 > Since 'URL' is usually pronounced 'yew ahr ell', not 'earl', it should
 > probably be 'a URL'.

Hmm, an URL ~ 112,000 pages, a URL ~ 1,320,000 pages.. Now is Google not
a dictionary but together with your explanation I agree. Noted!

[snip]

 > 2.8 New Window
 > The reason given doesn't mention 'accessibility' -- it isn't
 > forgetfulness that is the reason for not opening new windows.

Don't understand this sentence .

 > 3.1 Back
 > The position seems a bit too strong. See
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.mbstevens.com/howtothumb/index.html#backbutton</font" target="_blank">http://www.mbstevens.com/howtothumb/index.html#backbutton</font</a>>

That referer story.. It sometimes is not set, or wrongly set. I already
have people visiting my site using it to promote there own site, ie.
they have the referer hardcoded to their site .

I disagree: why repeat browser functionality. Let the people discover
the back button and learn to use it .

 > 5 Client Side Scripting
 > "...there are also good things possible with..." is correct, but
 > "...good things are also possible with..." is more idiomatic.
 >
 > Nice article.

Thanks, will make these changes probably tomorrow and hope to be able to
write "the rest" of it.

John

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