Refresh Websites

David wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> I need your help. I am doing a project to refersh a few websites, as
> is normally done every year. I was wondering if any of you are
> currently or expecting to be engaged in refershing Websites. What are
> you doing new this year, vs. last year, and any suggestions on any new
> tools/products that I could use this year. I will also appreciate, if
> you could point me to some good refershed websites. - Thanks for
> helping me out
>
> Best,
> David
>
>

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On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 16:06:41 -0700, G writ:

> David wrote:
>> Hi Guys,
>>
>> I need your help. I am doing a project to refersh a few websites, as
>> is normally done every year. I was wondering if any of you are
>> currently or expecting to be engaged in refershing Websites. What are
>> you doing new this year, vs. last year, and any suggestions on any new
>> tools/products that I could use this year. I will also appreciate, if
>> you could point me to some good refershed websites. - Thanks for
>> helping me out
>>
>> Best,
>> David
>
> F5 is the best tool.

I thought F8 was the refersh key.

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On 31 Oct, 22:52, David <d33lici... DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
> I need your help. I am doing a project to refersh a few websites, as
> is normally done every year.

I've done this loads of times, never done it well.

The industry standard practice is to piss moneey all over the problem,
effectively re-developing an existing site entirely from scratch. This
is obviously expensive. Even better is to change underlying CMS
platform, so you can have a huge ETL problem in moving the content
across too. Then you end up with the "first project on a new platform"
problem, so the reworked site looks terrible anyway.

This is stupid, but that's web-company management for you 8-(


What's _supposed_ to happen is that you lightly re-skin the
presentation only, so as to make the site look fresh and new, whilst
not having to do any work at all with the underlying content layers.

This depends on the pre-condition of having a CMS (program or manual
process) that supports doing this! You have to have such a system in
place _first_, i.e. bbefore the earlier "stale" system was put
together.

If you have a visually stale system that's also incapable of
supporting useful re-skinning, then you _must_ fix that problem before
re-skinning it.

If you don't fix this first, then you can't re-style the site - you
can only re-develop it from scratch. The end result might look the
same, but the costs don't.

If you have a system that's incapable of re-skinning and needs visual
re-design, then you should the lack of skinning ability before the re-
design, probably as simultaneous pieces of work. This is still
expensive (it's still a re-development) but _hopefully_ you're now in
a better position and the 3rd design re-skinning in the future will
now be cheap.

The risk is that the "change the platform to make the future better"
requirement gets forgotten and that it turns into merely another
expensive platform change for no benefit. That's pointless, but
depressingly common practice.
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Andy Dingley wrote:
> On 31 Oct, 22:52, David <d33lici....TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I need your help. I am doing a project to refersh a few websites, as
> > is normally done every year.
>
> I've done this loads of times, never done it well.
>
> The industry standard practice is to piss moneey all over the problem,
> effectively re-developing an existing site entirely from scratch. This
> is obviously expensive. Even better is to change underlying CMS
> platform, so you can have a huge ETL problem in moving the content
> across too. Then you end up with the "first project on a new platform"
> problem, so the reworked site looks terrible anyway.
>
> This is stupid, but that's web-company management for you 8-(
>
Ha.

>
> What's _supposed_ to happen is that you lightly re-skin the
> presentation only, so as to make the site look fresh and new, whilst
> not having to do any work at all with the underlying content layers.
Yes, that is / was one of the good things I liked about Mambo and I
presume Joomla would be similar.
However the quality of such templates was / is something else.

>
> This depends on the pre-condition of having a CMS (program or manual
> process) that supports doing this! You have to have such a system in
> place _first_, i.e. bbefore the earlier "stale" system was put
> together.
>
> If you have a visually stale system that's also incapable of
> supporting useful re-skinning, then you _must_ fix that problem before
> re-skinning it.
>
> If you don't fix this first, then you can't re-style the site - you
> can only re-develop it from scratch. The end result might look the
> same, but the costs don't.
>
Well, that's unless your doing the re-design yourself, then you only
have the cost of time (but as they say, time is money).

> If you have a system that's incapable of re-skinning and needs visual
> re-design, then you should the lack of skinning ability before the re-
> design, probably as simultaneous pieces of work. This is still
> expensive (it's still a re-development) but _hopefully_ you're now in
> a better position and the 3rd design re-skinning in the future will
> now be cheap.
>
> The risk is that the "change the platform to make the future better"
> requirement gets forgotten and that it turns into merely another
> expensive platform change for no benefit. That's pointless, but
> depressingly common practice.
But with the amount of free CMS's around now a days surely it would
not be that expensive *but very much a time waster though.
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"David" <d33licious RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi Guys,
>
> I need your help. I am doing a project to refersh a few websites, as
> is normally done every year. I was wondering if any of you are
> currently or expecting to be engaged in refershing Websites. What are
> you doing new this year, vs. last year, and any suggestions on any new
> tools/products that I could use this year. I will also appreciate, if
> you could point me to some good refershed websites. - Thanks for
> helping me out
>
> Best,
> David
>
David, the web is not some kind of fation exerbition .
In short just because a new tool is availible you should not use it (just
because you can).
Use the correct tool for the job when considering a new design and new
functionality.
What target market do your sites try to reach, eg are you designing websites
for local bands, or are they just information based sites?

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David <d33licious.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote:

>Hi Guys,
>
>I need your help. I am doing a project to refersh a few websites, as
>is normally done every year. I was wondering if any of you are
>currently or expecting to be engaged in refershing Websites. What are
>you doing new this year, vs. last year, and any suggestions on any new
>tools/products that I could use this year. I will also appreciate, if
>you could point me to some good refershed websites. - Thanks for
>helping me out
>
>Best,
>David
>

Heineken. Refreshes the web sites other beers cannot reach.

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