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Jason

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Since: Nov 25, 2005
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Aug 29, 2006 10:03 pm
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I just mentioned in an earlier post that I'm switching from a virtual
server to a dedicated server. Oh, what fun! LOL

Anywho, I have a real problem with the local cable internet. They only
update their records every week (or two, or three), so when I change a
nameserver on an account, it works for everyone EXCEPT people using
cable internet. Even emails are a problem; someone using cable internet
emails the client, and it goes to the old server instead of the new
one. After years of yelling at them, they've never changed their
policy.

So, what I'm curious about is this. Is there a script, apache mod, or
anything else that I can upload to the old server, to FORCE the visitor
to go to the new server? I'm open to anything.

TIA,

Jason

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Andy Dingley

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 5:06 am
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Jason wrote:

> I just mentioned in an earlier post that I'm switching from a virtual
> server to a dedicated server. Oh, what fun! LOL

As someone posted recently, it's like painting and decorating. Most of
the work is in the preparation, not the actual switchover.

In the run up to switchover, reduce the TTL on your DNS while still
serving the old IP. This will make competently run DNS see your change
more quickly, once it finally happens.

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Jason

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 11:31 am
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> I never realised some ISPs could hang on to the old DNS info for that
> long, good to know for future host changes.


I'm in Western North Carolina, and from my experience the problem lies
with Charter cable and Roadrunner cable. I have a rather large client
that has an office in this county and the next county over; this office
uses Charter, and the other office uses Roadrunner.

When they first switched their emails to my account, it took just over
2 weeks for their ISPs to propogate correctly! You can imagine the
calls, because one office couldn't email the other for that amount of
time. The ISPs finally assigned a static IP address to each office,
which solved the inter-office problem, but they still had problems with
anyone else using cable internet.

I had the same problem with another client using Charter internet a few
weeks ago, so I know that the problem hasn't been corrected on their
end; in fact, they refuse to acknowledge it. The site went "live" on
8/10/06, and as of 8/23/06, people were still seeing the old site. I
put in a PHP redirect page, which got rid of the complaints from the
site owner, but I know that emails weren't going through correctly (and
still might not be).

- J
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user94

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 1:11 pm
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Andy Dingley wrote

> As someone posted recently, it's like painting and decorating. Most of
> the work is in the preparation

Sounds like a Mr T one, that!

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Charles Sweeney
http://CharlesSweeney.com
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spamblocked1

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Aug 30, 2006 2:47 pm
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Fleeing from the madness of the LocusMeus.com jungle
Els <els.aNOSPAM DeleteThis @tiscali.nl> stumbled into news:alt.www.webmaster
and said:

> Jerry Stuckle wrote:

>>
>> I keep email accounts active for at least that long and have customers
>> check the old site once a day or so.
>
> I never realised some ISPs could hang on to the old DNS info for that
> long, good to know for future host changes.

not much you can do about it other than keep the old one active.
Connectivity ISPs are the worst offenders IME.

With a bit of prep (and cooperation from at least one of the hosts) you
can provide enough sticky tape and tie-wraps to make the transition
/almost/ seamless.

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William Tasso

http://williamtasso.com/words/what-is-usenet.asp
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