Recurring billing at gateway?

Steve Sobol wrote:

> If you don't want to DIY, Authorize.Net has recurring billing capability.

As does PayPal. I have not used Authorize.net's. I have used PayPal's.
PayPal will do what the OP wants for those customers who want to use PayPal.
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On 2007-11-01, Jerry Stuckle <jstucklex RemoveThis @attglobal.net> wrote:

> Last time I needed something like this I just set up a cron job to run
> on the first of each month to do the billing.
>
> Actually, it ran the 1st through the 5th, just in case of a problem.
> And it updated the billing database when it successfully billed a
> customer and sent me an email when billing failed.

If you don't want to DIY, Authorize.Net has recurring billing capability.


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On Oct 31, 9:41 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck... RemoveThis @attglobal.net> wrote:
> SCfores... RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
> > I am doing a subscription site and will be getting a merchant account
> > and gateway. many offer recurring billing but when you check their
> > demos it looks like you have to manually set up each customer. I do
> > not want that. I want to have the program offers several type of
> > subscriptions say 1 month, 6 month and 1 year for different prices.
> > The customer clicks the one they want, pays and comes back to log-in.
> > I need the recurring billing setup to then bill then every month
> > there after. Does any payment gateway do that or do I need separate
> > software for the billing that ties in to the gateway when ready to
> > bill?
>
> Last time I needed something like this I just set up a cron job to run
> on the first of each month to do the billing.
>
> Actually, it ran the 1st through the 5th, just in case of a problem.
> And it updated the billing database when it successfully billed a
> customer and sent me an email when billing failed.
>
> Wasn't that hard in PHP.
>
> --
> ==================
> Remove the "x" from my email address
> Jerry Stuckle
> JDS Computer Training Corp.
> jstuck... RemoveThis @attglobal.net
> ==================

So you ran it once a month even if they sign on toward he end of the
month and do not get full 30 dyas. Guess I just put in terms billed
first of each month and no prorate but will get complaints. I was
thining of tying it to the subscribe date but not sure how that would
work.
 >> Stay informed about: Recurring billing at gateway? 

On Nov 1, 12:27 am, Scott Bryce <sbr....RemoveThis@scottbryce.com> wrote:
> Steve Sobol wrote:
> > If you don't want to DIY, Authorize.Net has recurring billing capability.
>
> As does PayPal. I have not used Authorize.net's. I have used PayPal's.
> PayPal will do what the OP wants for those customers who want to use PayPal.

The probem with Paypal is it requires to me a member to pay which
will nto wrok well on my type of site.
 >> Stay informed about: Recurring billing at gateway? 

SCforester DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
> On Oct 31, 9:41 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck... DeleteThis @attglobal.net> wrote:
>> SCfores... DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
>>> I am doing a subscription site and will be getting a merchant account
>>> and gateway. many offer recurring billing but when you check their
>>> demos it looks like you have to manually set up each customer. I do
>>> not want that. I want to have the program offers several type of
>>> subscriptions say 1 month, 6 month and 1 year for different prices.
>>> The customer clicks the one they want, pays and comes back to log-in.
>>> I need the recurring billing setup to then bill then every month
>>> there after. Does any payment gateway do that or do I need separate
>>> software for the billing that ties in to the gateway when ready to
>>> bill?
>> Last time I needed something like this I just set up a cron job to run
>> on the first of each month to do the billing.
>>
>> Actually, it ran the 1st through the 5th, just in case of a problem.
>> And it updated the billing database when it successfully billed a
>> customer and sent me an email when billing failed.
>>
>> Wasn't that hard in PHP.
>>
>> --
>> ==================
>> Remove the "x" from my email address
>> Jerry Stuckle
>> JDS Computer Training Corp.
>> jstuck... DeleteThis @attglobal.net
>> ==================
>
> So you ran it once a month even if they sign on toward he end of the
> month and do not get full 30 dyas. Guess I just put in terms billed
> first of each month and no prorate but will get complaints. I was
> thining of tying it to the subscribe date but not sure how that would
> work.
>
>

In this case it didn't matter - it was an annual subscription and
monthly payments were a convenience. And the customer wanted all the
billing done at the first of the month. So if the joined on the 1st
through the 15th, their next payment would be due the 1st of the next
month. If they joined after the 15th, their next payment would be due
on the 1st of the second month following.

But it could have been easily set up to bill daily - just a matter of
tracking in the database. Of you could prorate the first payment, if
you wish.

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On Nov 1, 8:09 am, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck... DeleteThis @attglobal.net> wrote:
> SCfores... DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
> > On Oct 31, 9:41 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck... DeleteThis @attglobal.net> wrote:
> >> SCfores... DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
> >>> I am doing a subscription site and will be getting a merchant account
> >>> and gateway. many offer recurring billing but when you check their
> >>> demos it looks like you have to manually set up each customer. I do
> >>> not want that. I want to have the program offers several type of
> >>> subscriptions say 1 month, 6 month and 1 year for different prices.
> >>> The customer clicks the one they want, pays and comes back to log-in.
> >>> I need the recurring billing setup to then bill then every month
> >>> there after. Does any payment gateway do that or do I need separate
> >>> software for the billing that ties in to the gateway when ready to
> >>> bill?
> >> Last time I needed something like this I just set up a cron job to run
> >> on the first of each month to do the billing.
>
> >> Actually, it ran the 1st through the 5th, just in case of a problem.
> >> And it updated the billing database when it successfully billed a
> >> customer and sent me an email when billing failed.
>
> >> Wasn't that hard in PHP.
>
> >> --
> >> ==================
> >> Remove the "x" from my email address
> >> Jerry Stuckle
> >> JDS Computer Training Corp.
> >> jstuck... DeleteThis @attglobal.net
> >> ==================
>
> > So you ran it once a month even if they sign on toward he end of the
> > month and do not get full 30 dyas. Guess I just put in terms billed
> > first of each month and no prorate but will get complaints. I was
> > thining of tying it to the subscribe date but not sure how that would
> > work.
>
> In this case it didn't matter - it was an annual subscription and
> monthly payments were a convenience. And the customer wanted all the
> billing done at the first of the month. So if the joined on the 1st
> through the 15th, their next payment would be due the 1st of the next
> month. If they joined after the 15th, their next payment would be due
> on the 1st of the second month following.
>
> But it could have been easily set up to bill daily - just a matter of
> tracking in the database. Of you could prorate the first payment, if
> you wish.
>
> --
> ==================
> Remove the "x" from my email address
> Jerry Stuckle
> JDS Computer Training Corp.
> jstuck... DeleteThis @attglobal.net
> ==================- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Thanks, Can it daily be done with ASP? To check say expiriing
memberships within 5 days amd send them an email with link to rejoin?
Do you need a dedicated server for that?
Thanks
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SCforester.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks, Can it daily be done with ASP? To check say expiriing
> memberships within 5 days amd send them an email with link to rejoin?
> Do you need a dedicated server for that?


You are talking about two different ways to do this.

I don't know ASP, but I have done similar to what you are describing in
Perl, the primary difference being that I send the email 7 days prior to
expiration. In case there are glitches, I send an email to anyone who
will be expiring 7 days or less from the day that the script is running.
(If something hiccuped yesterday, hopefully you will get a 6 day notice
today.) I also validate the email address (I make sure that it is
formatted correctly, not that there really is a mailbox with that
address) to minimize the chances of SendMail or the SMTP server choking
on a poorly formatted address.

You need to set a flag in the database that tells you whether the
customer has already been notified.

I think Jerry was talking about submitting the billing info to his
credit card processor to collect the next month's money. How that would
be done would depend on your gateway.

Either way, you don't need a dedicated server. But you do need to be
able to set up a cron job on whatever server you are on. I ran mine on a
shared hosting account for the first two years. I moved to a VPS after I
was getting too much traffic for shared hosting. I should have moved
sooner. You will have to judge that for yourself. I would suggest
setting yourself up on a shared host, then watching how fast you grow.
 >> Stay informed about: Recurring billing at gateway? 

On 1 nov, 02:08, SCfores....RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:
> I am doing a subscription site and will be getting a merchant account
> and gateway. many offer recurring billing but when you check their
> demos it looks like you have to manually set up each customer. I do
> not want that. I want to have the program offers several type of
> subscriptions say 1 month, 6 month and 1 year for different prices.
> The customer clicks the one they want, pays and comes back to log-in.
> I need the recurring billing setup to then bill then every month
> there after. Does any payment gateway do that or do I need separate
> software for the billing that ties in to the gateway when ready to
> bill?

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On 1 nov, 04:43, Steve Sobol <sjso....DeleteThis@JustThe.net> wrote:
> On 2007-11-01, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck....DeleteThis@attglobal.net> wrote:
>
> > Last time I needed something like this I just set up a cron job to run
> > on the first of each month to do the billing.
>
> > Actually, it ran the 1st through the 5th, just in case of a problem.
> > And it updated the billing database when it successfully billed a
> > customer and sent me an email when billing failed.
>
> If you don't want to DIY, Authorize.Net has recurring billing capability.
>
> --
> Steve Sobol, Victorville, CA PGP:0xE3AE35ED www.SteveSobol.com
>
> SoCal Fire news @the L.A. Times:http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/breakingnews/
> Local wildfire coverage, KFMB-TV San Diego:http://cbs8.com/

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On 1 nov, 12:43, SCfores... DeleteThis @gmail.com wrote:
> On Nov 1, 12:27 am, Scott Bryce <sbr... DeleteThis @scottbryce.com> wrote:
>
> > Steve Sobol wrote:
> > > If you don't want to DIY, Authorize.Net has recurring billing capability.
>
> > As does PayPal. I have not used Authorize.net's. I have used PayPal's.
> > PayPal will do what the OP wants for those customers who want to use PayPal.
>
> The probem with Paypal is it requires to me a member to pay which
> will nto wrok well on my type of site.

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On 1 nov, 18:12, SCfores....TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
> On Nov 1, 8:09 am, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck....TakeThisOut@attglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > SCfores....TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
> > > On Oct 31, 9:41 pm, Jerry Stuckle <jstuck....TakeThisOut@attglobal.net> wrote:
> > >> SCfores....TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
> > >>> I am doing a subscription site and will be getting a merchant account
> > >>> and gateway. many offer recurring billing but when you check their
> > >>> demos it looks like you have to manually set up each customer. I do
> > >>> not want that. I want to have the program offers several type of
> > >>> subscriptions say 1 month, 6 month and 1 year for different prices.
> > >>> The customer clicks the one they want, pays and comes back to log-in.
> > >>> I need the recurring billing setup to then bill then every month
> > >>> there after. Does any payment gateway do that or do I need separate
> > >>> software for the billing that ties in to the gateway when ready to
> > >>> bill?
> > >> Last time I needed something like this I just set up a cron job to run
> > >> on the first of each month to do the billing.
>
> > >> Actually, it ran the 1st through the 5th, just in case of a problem.
> > >> And it updated the billing database when it successfully billed a
> > >> customer and sent me an email when billing failed.
>
> > >> Wasn't that hard in PHP.
>
> > >> --
> > >> ==================
> > >> Remove the "x" from my email address
> > >> Jerry Stuckle
> > >> JDS Computer Training Corp.
> > >> jstuck....TakeThisOut@attglobal.net
> > >> ==================
>
> > > So you ran it once a month even if they sign on toward he end of the
> > > month and do not get full 30 dyas. Guess I just put in terms billed
> > > first of each month and no prorate but will get complaints. I was
> > > thining of tying it to the subscribe date but not sure how that would
> > > work.
>
> > In this case it didn't matter - it was an annual subscription and
> > monthly payments were a convenience. And the customer wanted all the
> > billing done at the first of the month. So if the joined on the 1st
> > through the 15th, their next payment would be due the 1st of the next
> > month. If they joined after the 15th, their next payment would be due
> > on the 1st of the second month following.
>
> > But it could have been easily set up to bill daily - just a matter of
> > tracking in the database. Of you could prorate the first payment, if
> > you wish.
>
> > --
> > ==================
> > Remove the "x" from my email address
> > Jerry Stuckle
> > JDS Computer Training Corp.
> > jstuck....TakeThisOut@attglobal.net
> > ==================- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Thanks, Can it daily be done with ASP? To check say expiriing
> memberships within 5 days amd send them an email with link to rejoin?
> Do you need a dedicated server for that?
> Thanks

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On 1 nov, 18:46, Scott Bryce <sbr....TakeThisOut@scottbryce.com> wrote:
> SCfores....TakeThisOut@gmail.com wrote:
> > Thanks, Can it daily be done with ASP? To check say expiriing
> > memberships within 5 days amd send them an email with link to rejoin?
> > Do you need a dedicated server for that?
>
> You are talking about two different ways to do this.
>
> I don't know ASP, but I have done similar to what you are describing in
> Perl, the primary difference being that I send the email 7 days prior to
> expiration. In case there are glitches, I send an email to anyone who
> will be expiring 7 days or less from the day that the script is running.
> (If something hiccuped yesterday, hopefully you will get a 6 day notice
> today.) I also validate the email address (I make sure that it is
> formatted correctly, not that there really is a mailbox with that
> address) to minimize the chances of SendMail or the SMTP server choking
> on a poorly formatted address.
>
> You need to set a flag in the database that tells you whether the
> customer has already been notified.
>
> I think Jerry was talking about submitting the billing info to his
> credit card processor to collect the next month's money. How that would
> be done would depend on your gateway.
>
> Either way, you don't need a dedicated server. But you do need to be
> able to set up a cron job on whatever server you are on. I ran mine on a
> shared hosting account for the first two years. I moved to a VPS after I
> was getting too much traffic for shared hosting. I should have moved
> sooner. You will have to judge that for yourself. I would suggest
> setting yourself up on a shared host, then watching how fast you grow.

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