Problem with german umlaut in URL for file download

"Frédéric Chastagnol" <fch.DeleteThis@tetragtatitato.ch> schreef in bericht
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> > Why not simply change the filename? Accents on characters are a bad
> > idea in URLs/filenames. Just don't use them
> The files are automatically generated and the file name is used as label
> showed to the customer.
> In German, for example, ü may be replaced with ue.
> But german people like to see umlaut instead of an other character.
Call it part of their culture, that happens all over the world:
ñ in Spain, AEcombinated for Sweden, ç in France

Your problem boils down to cross-platform, cros-vendor and
cross-global-region incompatibilities in binary representing of
none-US-ASCII characters in URLs and filenames. Trying to ment what may have
been broken in so widely varying combination of factors, is undoubtedly a
wasted effort.

> Automatically replacing ue with ü in the label isn't possible. ue
> isn't allways ü.
Try it the other way around:
In your JSP application generate a filename apart from the label by just
replacing the 'decorated' characters in the label with their undecorated
counterparts. Be aware of the chance two lables traslate to one filename ...

HansH
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Frédéric Chastagnol a écrit:

> Thank for your answer
>
>> Why not simply change the filename? Accents on characters are a bad
>> idea in URLs/filenames. Just don't use them
>
> The files are automatically generated and the file name is used as label
> showed to the customer.
> In German, for example, ü may be replaced with ue.
> But german people like to see umlaut instead of an other character.
> automatically replacing ue with ü in the label isn't possible. ue isn't
> allways ü.
>
> Thanks
> By
> Frédéric

I had a similar problem with some french speaking (reading) site of mine.

The simple solution i found was to have my uploader script to rename all
files replacing accented chars to their non-accented equivalent.

é becomes e
ò become o

also:

' becomes _

etc...

I also replace all the blanks with _.

Then the script caches the real name of the file in an other directory.

The visitors see the caches and correctly spelled file name but it links to
a more standard named and easily manageable file.

It is quite easy to implement in perl or PHP.

I tried other solutions but they were a waste of time.


Hope that helps.



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 >> Stay informed about: Problem with german umlaut in URL for file download 

Use char codes for non-english characters, when reffering to url. This will work in any browser:
<a href="reporting/Mess%FCbersicht.pdf" target="_blank">Messübersicht</a>


Frédéric Chastagnol wrote:
> Hi
> I try to explain my problem:
>
> Apache 2.0.52
> Tomcat 5.5.9
>
> File {Tomcat-Home}\webapps\myapp\reporting\Messübersicht.pdf
>
> URL in the page
> <a href="reporting/Messübersicht.pdf" target="_blank">Messübersicht</a>
>
> In the config file server.xml from tomcat, I try this:
> <Connector port="8009" URIEncoding="iso-8859-1"
> enableLookups="false" redirectPort="8443" protocol="AJP/1.3"
> />
>
> With firefox, download ok
> With MS IE 6.0:
> The requested resource (/myapp/Messübersicht.pdf) is not available.
>
>
> and this:
> <Connector port="8009" URIEncoding="utf-8"
> enableLookups="false" redirectPort="8443" protocol="AJP/1.3"
> />
>
> With MS IE 6.0, download ok
> With firefox:
> The requested resource (/myApp/Messübersicht.pdf) is not available.
>
>
> Any idea?
> Thanks
> Frédéric
>
>
 >> Stay informed about: Problem with german umlaut in URL for file download 

Hi

> Use char codes for non-english characters, when reffering to url. This
will work in any browser:
> <a href="reporting/Mess%FCbersicht.pdf" target="_blank">Messübersicht</a>

Thanks for your answer. But it doesn't work!
Firefox replace itself the char ü with %FC.

I ask me, where is the bug? in Firefox or in MS IE?

By
Frédéric
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Frédéric Chastagnol wrote:
> Hi
>
>
>>Use char codes for non-english characters, when reffering to url. This
>
> will work in any browser:
>
>><a href="reporting/Mess%FCbersicht.pdf" target="_blank">Messübersicht</a>
>
>
> Thanks for your answer. But it doesn't work!
> Firefox replace itself the char ü with %FC.
>
> I ask me, where is the bug? in Firefox or in MS IE?

I had such similar problem with IE but using %xx for non-english characters solved the problem. Now it works for every browser I tested (Netscape/Mozilla/Firefox IE and Opera).

Are you using charset=iso-8859-1 and %FC and it still doesn't work in IE?
Can you give us a full url of that file so we could check it online?
 >> Stay informed about: Problem with german umlaut in URL for file download 

Just have come to an idea which should be probably the most obvious solution here:

From within .html file simply use: ü for u umlaut
 >> Stay informed about: Problem with german umlaut in URL for file download 

Hi

First thanks all for help.


> Are you using charset=iso-8859-1 and %FC and it still doesn't work in IE?

I don't specify charset in the html-file. I think default is iso-8859-1. Or
not? I'm not sure.

> Can you give us a full url of that file so we could check it online?

Unfortunately not. The server is on a privat LAN.

Frederic
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