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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 6:40 pm
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Hi!
I have web page with frames, and i want to do it without them using include,
but i don't know how?
Help me!

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 6:40 pm
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Danijel Babic wrote:

 > I have web page with frames, and i want to do it without them using
 > include, but i don't know how?

HTML preprocessor.


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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 6:40 pm
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Danijel Babic wrote:
 > I have web page with frames, and i want to do it without them using
 > include, but i don't know how?

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?Include_one_file_in_another" target="_blank">http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?Include_one_file_in_another</a> has pointers.

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 6:40 pm
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Danijel wrote:

  > Hi!
 > I have web page with frames, and i want to do it without them using
 > include,
 > but i don't know how?
 > Help me!


You could try the same thing in CSS with two divisions.
Div one is your left frame, two is your right frame.
Using z-index layers, you could call on what to show in div two quite
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 3:09 am
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Danijel Babic wrote:

 > Hi!
 > I have web page with frames, and i want to do it without them using include,
 > but i don't know how?

You can't just replicate a page without using frames - you need some
other way such as tables or css to get the page layout you desire. If
you have two vertical frame panels, one 20% width and the other 80%, the
tables which would do a similar job are below. Then to include the html
from the frameset src files, if PHP is available on your server:
<table width="100%">
<tr>
<td width="20%">
  <?php include("path/to/file.html"); ?>
</td>
  <td width="80%">
  <?php include("path/to/file2.html"); ?>
  </td>
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 3:09 am
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David Venn-Brown wrote:
 > You can't just replicate a page without using frames - you need some
 > other way such as tables or css to get the page layout you desire.

Scratch "tables".

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?Tableless_layouts" target="_blank">http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?Tableless_layouts</a>


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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 11:15 am
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David Dorward wrote:

 > David Venn-Brown wrote:
 >
  >>You can't just replicate a page without using frames - you need some
  >>other way such as tables or css to get the page layout you desire.
 >
 >
 > Scratch "tables".
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?Tableless_layouts</font" target="_blank">http://www.allmyfaqs.com/faq.pl?Tableless_layouts</font</a>>

You should know I don't like tables for layout, but there's no point in
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 11:15 am
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David Venn-Brown wrote:
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 > there's no point in just confusing people.

nonsense, disorientation is a very effective tactic.

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 11:15 am
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"William Tasso" <SpamBlocked.DeleteThis@tbdata.com> wrote in message
news:bmcji7$l1fvg$1@ID-139074.news.uni-berlin.de...
 > David Venn-Brown wrote:
  > >
  > > there's no point in just confusing people.
 >
 > nonsense, disorientation is a very effective tactic.
 >

Mr. Tasso is correct. A very effective means of interrogating prisoners of
war is to sieze their control over anything, including reality itself.


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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 11:15 am
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EightNineThree wrote:
 > "William Tasso" <SpamBlocked.DeleteThis@tbdata.com> wrote in message
 > news:bmcji7$l1fvg$1@ID-139074.news.uni-berlin.de...
  >> David Venn-Brown wrote:
   >>>
   >>> there's no point in just confusing people.
  >>
  >> nonsense, disorientation is a very effective tactic.
  >>
 >
 > Mr. Tasso is correct. A very effective means of interrogating
 > prisoners of war is to sieze their control over anything, including
 > reality itself.

I was thinking of ....
.... oh never mind

;o)

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 3:09 pm
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"Danijel Babic" <danijel.babic DeleteThis @zg.hinet.hr> wrote in message news:<bmblk8$lsg$1@bagan.srce.hr>...
 > Hi!
 > I have web page with frames, and i want to do it without them using include,
 > but i don't know how?
 > -------------

depends on what "it" part of frames you are trying to replicate. if
you want to have a single file for your navigation buttons or header
or footoer or whatever to minimize multiple edits when you change
something, then it can easily be done by changing your pages to .shtml
and using code like:
<!--#include file="navmenu.txt" -->

however, if you want to do something like have the left "menu" always
be visible and not scroll, then you have to add in a fair amount of
browser-dependant javascript... not advisable.

<frames> generally are a bad idea though, and you probably should get
rid of them since they tend to hide you from search engines unless you
are careful to code in <noframes> sections and put links such that you
can be spidered.

have fun,

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 10:47 am
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"William Tasso" <SpamBlocked.TakeThisOut@tbdata.com> wrote in message
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 > David Venn-Brown wrote:
  > >
  > > there's no point in just confusing people.
 >
 > nonsense, disorientation is a very effective tactic.
 >
Worked for Bush!<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 10:47 am
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In article <3f8af1a0$1@clear.net.nz>, who.TakeThisOut@what.com says...
 >
 > "William Tasso" <SpamBlocked.TakeThisOut@tbdata.com> wrote in message
 > news:bmcji7$l1fvg$1@ID-139074.news.uni-berlin.de...
  > > David Venn-Brown wrote:
   > > >
   > > > there's no point in just confusing people.
  > >
  > > nonsense, disorientation is a very effective tactic.
  > >
 > Worked for Bush!

Worked better for Karl Rove ... he got Bush all discombobulated in the
bargain. Bush actually thinks these wars are HIS idea! Have you ever
heard anything so utterly ridiculous and oxymoronic in your life? Bush
having an idea??? *laughing like a jackass eating barbed wire ... merely
at the concept*

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2003 10:47 am
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On Tue, 14 Oct 2003 07:47:26 +1300 "Bill Logan" <who.TakeThisOut@what.com> broke
off from drinking a cup of tea at CLEAR Net New Zealand
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.clear.net.nz" target="_blank">http://www.clear.net.nz</a> - Complaints abuse.TakeThisOut@clear.net.nz to write:

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 >"William Tasso" <SpamBlocked.TakeThisOut@tbdata.com> wrote in message
 >news:bmcji7$l1fvg$1@ID-139074.news.uni-berlin.de...
  >> David Venn-Brown wrote:
   >> >
   >> > there's no point in just confusing people.
  >>
  >> nonsense, disorientation is a very effective tactic.
  >>
 >Worked for Bush!
 >

Worked for Blair, Hitler, Stalin, Pinochet...

Matt

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