Page Width

"Tina - AffordableHOST.com"
 > Set it up with a table width="100%". That way, it will expand/shrink to
fit
 > any size window.

I had, but something else was going on that made it squirrelly. I found it
and everything went back to normal. Thank Tina. When I was in school (MANY
years ago), I was told that the only 'stupid question' was one that was not
asked.
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Sharon wrote:
 > Is there any way of setting the page width to account for all
 > possibilities?

Yep

 > I ask this because my cancer website is utilized by
 > people that may, or may not, have visual impairment. These people
 > may have their computers set up to give them the highest amount of
 > visual help. But the majority of my users do not have that
 > disability, so there screens will be set up with the various standard
 > sizes.

Forget that thought - there is no standard size (cue: muffled titters from
the back row)

 > I would like to accommodate everyone.

Remember that thought. Get back to basics. There is nothing in a web
document that prohibits flexible layout until the author interferes.

Simple basic HTML with *no* attempt at presentation will be your best
friend. Add styling to taste with CSS.

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"Tina - AffordableHOST.com" <tina DeleteThis @affordablehost.com> wrote in message
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 >
 > "Sharon" <me DeleteThis @privacy.net> wrote in message
 > news:btso1o$b2kvd$1@ID-219472.news.uni-berlin.de...
  > > Is there any way of setting the page width to account for all
 > possibilities?
  > > I ask this because my cancer website is utilized by people that may, or
 > may
  > > not, have visual impairment. These people may have their computers set
up
  > > to give them the highest amount of visual help. But the majority of my
  > > users do not have that disability, so there screens will be set up with
 > the
  > > various standard sizes. I would like to accommodate everyone.
 >
 >
 > Set it up with a table width="100%". That way, it will expand/shrink to
fit
 > any size window.
 >


table width="100%".

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On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 17:00:45 -0500, "Sharon" <me.DeleteThis@privacy.net> wrote:

 >Is there any way of setting the page width to account for all possibilities?
 >I ask this because my cancer website is utilized by people that may, or may
 >not, have visual impairment. These people may have their computers set up
 >to give them the highest amount of visual help. But the majority of my
 >users do not have that disability, so there screens will be set up with the
 >various standard sizes. I would like to accommodate everyone.

The answer to your question is simple, but the application of that
answer is complex.

As William said:
"Simple basic HTML with *no* attempt at presentation will be your best
friend. Add styling to taste with CSS."


Have a look at these CSS-only layouts:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.bluerobot.com/web/layouts/" target="_blank">http://www.bluerobot.com/web/layouts/</a>

Just about any basic web site can be created using those layouts. You
then go wild on these basic layouts with your markup. Lots of help
with that here:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.thenetplace.com/css.php" target="_blank">http://www.thenetplace.com/css.php</a>
and here:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.alistapart.com/topics/css/" target="_blank">http://www.alistapart.com/topics/css/</a>

A great example of a site redesign using CSS is here:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.alistapart.com/articles/slashdot/" target="_blank">http://www.alistapart.com/articles/slashdot/</a>

I've used the Blue Robot layouts time and again to create quick sites
that aren't too taxing by way of structure and navigation. At times
I've registered a domain name in the morning and had a full working
site by the evening - e.g. <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.eddiewatch.com/" target="_blank">http://www.eddiewatch.com/</a> (which breaks a
bit in Opera but I've been lax in fixing it).

And also, seeing as you are designing with visual impairment in mind,
have a look through these links on accessibility:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.thenetplace.com/accessibility.php" target="_blank">http://www.thenetplace.com/accessibility.php</a>

You can crack open the code of thenetplace.com to see one application
of CSS layout and style.

You can accommodate everyone. What you can't do is present them all
with exactly the same layout and style.


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"Tina - AffordableHOST.com" <tina DeleteThis @affordablehost.com> wrote in message
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 >
 > "Sharon" <me DeleteThis @privacy.net> wrote in message
 > news:btso1o$b2kvd$1@ID-219472.news.uni-berlin.de...
  > > Is there any way of setting the page width to account for all
 > possibilities?
  > > I ask this because my cancer website is utilized by people that may, or
 > may
  > > not, have visual impairment. These people may have their computers set
up
  > > to give them the highest amount of visual help. But the majority of my
  > > users do not have that disability, so there screens will be set up with
 > the
  > > various standard sizes. I would like to accommodate everyone.
 >
 >
 > Set it up with a table width="100%". That way, it will expand/shrink to
fit
 > any size window.

Please, that is not the best advice, not anymore, I used to do that, I like
tables for many reasons, but NOT for this...

Use CSS and use TopStyle combined with Dreamweaver version MX or above
combined with the link that Adrian gave you
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.bluerobot.com/web/layouts/" target="_blank">http://www.bluerobot.com/web/layouts/</a>

I am not a purist, but for what you want Tina is wrong on this one... tables
DO HAVE THERE PLACE, but this isn't it...

CSS truly is your friend, but do NOT fix text sizes...

HTH's

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These links might be of use as to *why* you'd want to separate style
from content:
http://www.thenetplace.com/accessibility.php#device

Information that is useful when trying to convince superiors or
customers to re-design with web standards.

AA
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