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(Msg. 16) Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 8:56 am
Post subject: Re: Lost Gmail Messages---MY WHOLE HISTORY [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Ben C" <spamspam.TakeThisOut@spam.eggs> wrote in message
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> On 2007-10-03, elyob <newsprofile.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm sure just as many (probably more in fact) of the people who use
> normal mail rather than gmail lose their messages when their disk fails
> or they accidentally delete them and they didn't have a backup.
Nope. Not me.
I have, in my archive, email traffic going back to the early 1990s (or
whenever email started). Backing up ones emails is right up there with
backing up ones source code. It's a business practice. The emails I wrote
back then are just as important as the code I wrote back then.
A disk failure is *to be expected* and should be *planned for*. If you don't
plan for it then you are really not a computer professional, IMHO. I have
suffered about six major disk failures over the past few decades. Each one
cost me a few days downtime. None of them cost me any loss of data, at all.
Our friend, the OP, may just learn something from this adventure: Don't EVER
rely on somebody else retaining your data. Even your ISP. Even the best of
them.
Have your own backup and make this backup now.
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(Msg. 17) Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:16 am
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<kathrynhans RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Dear Google Group,
> ON SEPT. 11, 2007, I WOKE UP TO MY TWO YEARS OF GMAIL WIPED OUT. JUST
> GONE. NO MESSAGES, NO NOTHING FROM THE PAST.
>
> Obviously I am distraught that gmail somehow can be wiped out by
> something. It is not a virus, as I had MacAfee intact and checked
> that. GOOGLE SUPPORT has been UNHELPFUL, EVEN INSULTING, IN ITS
> APPROACH. They say they can't give me any info because they need to
> protect user's privacy. WHAT ABOUT CUSTOMER PRIVACY? I HAVE TWO VERY
> IMPORTANT YEARS OF MY LIFE IN GMAIL, AND GOOGLE SUPPORT WILL DO
> NOTHING TO RESTORE THAT.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas? I have reset my password and security
> code, but that doesn't help restore my past. Google must have the
> gmail backed up on a server, but they refuse to help. Any
> suggestions??
>
> Kathryn
>
Sorry for your loss.
- use the free email address your ISP gives you
- use outlook express or other "real" email application
- use an email-backup app like "express assist" (for OE) to make backups and
tuck them away
Can one back up webmail-based email archives? I haven't used one since I
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(Msg. 18) Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:16 am
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On 2007-10-03, Steve <nomail RemoveThis @for.me> wrote:
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> Can one back up webmail-based email archives?
You can usually download the emails with POP, i.e. using fetchmail or
alternatively most MUAs (Outlook etc.). You can or used to be able to do
that from gmail and also from Yahoo. Once you've downloaded them you can
back them up like any other emails.
Yahoo made you agree to let them spam you a bit in return for the
service. But they don't spam you much. >> Stay informed about: Lost Gmail Messages---MY WHOLE HISTORY |
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(Msg. 19) Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:16 am
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(Msg. 20) Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:23 am
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Viper <venomx RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message:
OuOdnTf8TdtsaZ_anZ2dnUVZ_tajnZ2d RemoveThis @comcast.com,
> kathrynhans RemoveThis @gmail.com wrote:
>> Does anyone have any ideas? I have reset my password and security
>> code, but that doesn't help restore my past. Google must have the
>> gmail backed up on a server, but they refuse to help. Any
>> suggestions??
>>
> This is off topic for this group but I would say you got what you
> paid for. Stop being cheap and buy a domain and hosting and stop
> using free email services.
There's nothing wrong with using free email services--for non-essential
stuff.
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(Msg. 21) Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 12:57 pm
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"Ben C" <spamspam RemoveThis @spam.eggs> wrote in message
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> On 2007-10-03, Steve <nomail RemoveThis @for.me> wrote:
> [...]
>> Can one back up webmail-based email archives?
>
> You can usually download the emails with POP, i.e. using fetchmail or
> alternatively most MUAs (Outlook etc.). You can or used to be able to do
> that from gmail and also from Yahoo. Once you've downloaded them you can
> back them up like any other emails.
>
> Yahoo made you agree to let them spam you a bit in return for the
> service. But they don't spam you much.
I do this the other way around. gmail downloads my mail from my main email
address, so it is being used as the backup/webmail viewer.
However, I wouldn't call any of my email "essential". Most of it just gets
archived and never looked at again. I can now use gmail to search my
archive. >> Stay informed about: Lost Gmail Messages---MY WHOLE HISTORY |
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(Msg. 22) Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 4:32 pm
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You're a paying customer, you should demand they rectify this issue.
Oh, you're not actually paying them for a service.
I guess you get what you pay for.
On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 10:03:35 -0700, kathrynhans wrote:
> Dear Google Group,
> ON SEPT. 11, 2007, I WOKE UP TO MY TWO YEARS OF GMAIL WIPED OUT. JUST
> GONE. NO MESSAGES, NO NOTHING FROM THE PAST.
>
> Obviously I am distraught that gmail somehow can be wiped out by
> something. It is not a virus, as I had MacAfee intact and checked
> that. GOOGLE SUPPORT has been UNHELPFUL, EVEN INSULTING, IN ITS
> APPROACH. They say they can't give me any info because they need to
> protect user's privacy. WHAT ABOUT CUSTOMER PRIVACY? I HAVE TWO VERY
> IMPORTANT YEARS OF MY LIFE IN GMAIL, AND GOOGLE SUPPORT WILL DO
> NOTHING TO RESTORE THAT.
>
> Does anyone have any ideas? I have reset my password and security
> code, but that doesn't help restore my past. Google must have the
> gmail backed up on a server, but they refuse to help. Any
> suggestions??
>
> Kathryn
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MH Software, Inc. - Home of Connect Daily Web Calendar
http://www.mhsoftware.com/connectdaily.htm >> Stay informed about: Lost Gmail Messages---MY WHOLE HISTORY |
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(Msg. 23) Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 7:08 pm
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George L. Sexton wrote:
> You're a paying customer, you should demand they rectify this issue.
>
> Oh, you're not actually paying them for a service.
>
> I guess you get what you pay for.
>
>
> On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 10:03:35 -0700, kathrynhans wrote:
>
>> Dear Google Group,
>> ON SEPT. 11, 2007, I WOKE UP TO MY TWO YEARS OF GMAIL WIPED OUT. JUST
>> GONE. NO MESSAGES, NO NOTHING FROM THE PAST.
>>
>> Obviously I am distraught that gmail somehow can be wiped out by
>> something. It is not a virus, as I had MacAfee intact and checked
>> that. GOOGLE SUPPORT has been UNHELPFUL, EVEN INSULTING, IN ITS
>> APPROACH. They say they can't give me any info because they need to
>> protect user's privacy. WHAT ABOUT CUSTOMER PRIVACY? I HAVE TWO VERY
>> IMPORTANT YEARS OF MY LIFE IN GMAIL, AND GOOGLE SUPPORT WILL DO
>> NOTHING TO RESTORE THAT.
>>
>> Does anyone have any ideas? I have reset my password and security
>> code, but that doesn't help restore my past. Google must have the
>> gmail backed up on a server, but they refuse to help. Any
>> suggestions??
>>
>> Kathryn
>
>
>
And this is not a Google group. There are no such things as "Google
groups."
--
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"Paul's vocabulary is rather large, but
most of the words have no meaning in English" - Joe Canuck
"Too bad it wasn't "personality theft"...you'd be immune." - Herb Tarlek >> Stay informed about: Lost Gmail Messages---MY WHOLE HISTORY |
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(Msg. 24) Posted: Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:22 pm
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(Msg. 25) Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 12:18 am
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WindsorFox wrote:
> George L. Sexton wrote:
>> You're a paying customer, you should demand they rectify this issue.
>>
>> Oh, you're not actually paying them for a service.
>>
>> I guess you get what you pay for.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 10:03:35 -0700, kathrynhans wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Google Group,
>>> ON SEPT. 11, 2007, I WOKE UP TO MY TWO YEARS OF GMAIL WIPED OUT. JUST
>>> GONE. NO MESSAGES, NO NOTHING FROM THE PAST.
>>>
>>> Obviously I am distraught that gmail somehow can be wiped out by
>>> something. It is not a virus, as I had MacAfee intact and checked
>>> that. GOOGLE SUPPORT has been UNHELPFUL, EVEN INSULTING, IN ITS
>>> APPROACH. They say they can't give me any info because they need to
>>> protect user's privacy. WHAT ABOUT CUSTOMER PRIVACY? I HAVE TWO VERY
>>> IMPORTANT YEARS OF MY LIFE IN GMAIL, AND GOOGLE SUPPORT WILL DO
>>> NOTHING TO RESTORE THAT.
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any ideas? I have reset my password and security
>>> code, but that doesn't help restore my past. Google must have the
>>> gmail backed up on a server, but they refuse to help. Any
>>> suggestions??
>>>
>>> Kathryn
>
> And this is not a Google group. There are no such things as "Google
> groups."
But there are plenty of such things as Google Gropers, who can't find
their way back to read responses. 
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Killing all posts from Google Groups
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(Msg. 26) Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:01 pm
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"Blinky the Shark" <no.spam DeleteThis @box.invalid> escribió en el mensaje
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> WindsorFox wrote:
>> George L. Sexton wrote:
>>> You're a paying customer, you should demand they rectify this issue.
>>>
>>> Oh, you're not actually paying them for a service.
>>>
>>> I guess you get what you pay for.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 10:03:35 -0700, kathrynhans wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Google Group,
>>>> ON SEPT. 11, 2007, I WOKE UP TO MY TWO YEARS OF GMAIL WIPED OUT. JUST
>>>> GONE. NO MESSAGES, NO NOTHING FROM THE PAST.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously I am distraught that gmail somehow can be wiped out by
>>>> something. It is not a virus, as I had MacAfee intact and checked
>>>> that. GOOGLE SUPPORT has been UNHELPFUL, EVEN INSULTING, IN ITS
>>>> APPROACH. They say they can't give me any info because they need to
>>>> protect user's privacy. WHAT ABOUT CUSTOMER PRIVACY? I HAVE TWO VERY
>>>> IMPORTANT YEARS OF MY LIFE IN GMAIL, AND GOOGLE SUPPORT WILL DO
>>>> NOTHING TO RESTORE THAT.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have any ideas? I have reset my password and security
>>>> code, but that doesn't help restore my past. Google must have the
>>>> gmail backed up on a server, but they refuse to help. Any
>>>> suggestions??
>>>>
>>>> Kathryn
>>
>> And this is not a Google group. There are no such things as "Google
>> groups."
>
> But there are plenty of such things as Google Gropers, who can't find
> their way back to read responses.
>
> --
> Blinky RLU 297263
> Killing all posts from Google Groups
> The Usenet Improvement Project - http://improve-usenet.org
Now there is alt.comp.google
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(Msg. 27) Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:57 pm
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(Msg. 28) Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:49 pm
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Blinky the Shark wrote:
> WindsorFox wrote:
>> George L. Sexton wrote:
>>> You're a paying customer, you should demand they rectify this issue.
>>>
>>> Oh, you're not actually paying them for a service.
>>>
>>> I guess you get what you pay for.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 02 Oct 2007 10:03:35 -0700, kathrynhans wrote:
>>>
>>>> Dear Google Group,
>>>> ON SEPT. 11, 2007, I WOKE UP TO MY TWO YEARS OF GMAIL WIPED OUT. JUST
>>>> GONE. NO MESSAGES, NO NOTHING FROM THE PAST.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously I am distraught that gmail somehow can be wiped out by
>>>> something. It is not a virus, as I had MacAfee intact and checked
>>>> that. GOOGLE SUPPORT has been UNHELPFUL, EVEN INSULTING, IN ITS
>>>> APPROACH. They say they can't give me any info because they need to
>>>> protect user's privacy. WHAT ABOUT CUSTOMER PRIVACY? I HAVE TWO VERY
>>>> IMPORTANT YEARS OF MY LIFE IN GMAIL, AND GOOGLE SUPPORT WILL DO
>>>> NOTHING TO RESTORE THAT.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone have any ideas? I have reset my password and security
>>>> code, but that doesn't help restore my past. Google must have the
>>>> gmail backed up on a server, but they refuse to help. Any
>>>> suggestions??
>>>>
>>>> Kathryn
>> And this is not a Google group. There are no such things as "Google
>> groups."
>
> But there are plenty of such things as Google Gropers, who can't find
> their way back to read responses.
>
Give thanks for the small things...
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"Paul's vocabulary is rather large, but
most of the words have no meaning in English" - Joe Canuck
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(Msg. 29) Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:53 pm
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Rob Waaijenberg wrote:
> WindsorFox schreef:
>>
>> And this is not a Google group. There are no such things as
>> "Google groups."
>>
>
> Actually, there are Google Groups
> just as there are Yahoo Groups.
>
Well if there are Google only groups, I've never found them. AFAIK
"Google groups" refers only to their very poor Usenet interface.
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"Paul's vocabulary is rather large, but
most of the words have no meaning in English" - Joe Canuck
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(Msg. 30) Posted: Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:44 pm
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On 2007-10-05, WindsorFox wrote:
> Rob Waaijenberg wrote:
>> WindsorFox schreef:
>>>
>>> And this is not a Google group. There are no such things as
>>> "Google groups."
>>
>> Actually, there are Google Groups
>> just as there are Yahoo Groups.
>
> Well if there are Google only groups, I've never found them. AFAIK
> "Google groups" refers only to their very poor Usenet interface.
<http://groups.google.com> has both Usenet and Google groups, e.g.
<http://groups.google.com/group/Google-Maps-API>.
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