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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 6:27 pm
Post subject: Locating a referrer
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I read the phrase "sniffing a referrer" in this group the other day...I
wonder if such a process could help me with a problem I'm having with a link
somewhere on the Web.

Adult content warning - the URL's in this message are to an adult-oriented
site. If this content is bothersome, please don't go there.

Anyway -

I am the temporary (yeah, right - it's a not-for-profit organization)
Webmaster for a site, and I'm fairly new at this. Many sites carry our link,
and we get about a third of our traffic from referrers. One of those
referrers has our primary address correct (it's www.lra-chicago.org) but
their link is actually to a page called M, so the address that is actually
requested is www.lra-chicago.org/m. Trouble is, we don't have a page called
"M" or "m", so of course, we generate 404 errors.

I looked through the error log that tells me that the page didn't exist, but
the IP number that appears there seems to be the IP number of the server
that last had the request before the request got to the site.

So, does anyone know of a way to figure out who the real referrer is? And,
if this address looks familiar, it's because I posted a more general
question about five or six weeks ago, and I've made a lot of progress fixing
things that came up from your comments. Not all of them, but enough that I'm
closer to being sure that there's nothing grossly wrong.

Thanks to all of you for your help.


Steve E.
electronic-services.DeleteThis@lra-chicago.org

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 6:27 pm
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You can check your server logs and find the refering url but you have to
tell your server to retrieve this information or it won't by defualt.

What server is your website on?
apache?
iis?
those are the two most common.
I can tell you how to set up either one.

The ip is usually the ip of the person that visited the site the the
reffering page.


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"Serious_Practitioner" <Serious_PractitionerNOSPAM.TakeThisOut@att.net> wrote in message
news:Dyole.253747$cg1.162046@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
 > I read the phrase "sniffing a referrer" in this group the other day...I
 > wonder if such a process could help me with a problem I'm having with a
link
 > somewhere on the Web.
 >
 > Adult content warning - the URL's in this message are to an adult-oriented
 > site. If this content is bothersome, please don't go there.
 >
 > Anyway -
 >
 > I am the temporary (yeah, right - it's a not-for-profit organization)
 > Webmaster for a site, and I'm fairly new at this. Many sites carry our
link,
 > and we get about a third of our traffic from referrers. One of those
 > referrers has our primary address correct (it's <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.lra-chicago.org" target="_blank">www.lra-chicago.org</a>) but
 > their link is actually to a page called M, so the address that is actually
 > requested is <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.lra-chicago.org/m." target="_blank">www.lra-chicago.org/m.</a> Trouble is, we don't have a page
called
 > "M" or "m", so of course, we generate 404 errors.
 >
 > I looked through the error log that tells me that the page didn't exist,
but
 > the IP number that appears there seems to be the IP number of the server
 > that last had the request before the request got to the site.
 >
 > So, does anyone know of a way to figure out who the real referrer is? And,
 > if this address looks familiar, it's because I posted a more general
 > question about five or six weeks ago, and I've made a lot of progress
fixing
 > things that came up from your comments. Not all of them, but enough that
I'm
 > closer to being sure that there's nothing grossly wrong.
 >
 > Thanks to all of you for your help.
 >
 >
 > Steve E.
 > electronic-services.TakeThisOut@lra-chicago.org
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
 >
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 10:55 pm
Post subject: Re: Locating a referrer [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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"Serious_Practitioner" <Serious_PractitionerNOSPAM RemoveThis @att.net> wrote in message
news:Dyole.253747$cg1.162046@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
 >I read the phrase "sniffing a referrer" in this group the other day...I
 >wonder if such a process could help me with a problem I'm having with a
 >link somewhere on the Web.
 >
 > Adult content warning - the URL's in this message are to an adult-oriented
 > site. If this content is bothersome, please don't go there.
 >
 > Anyway -
 >
 > I am the temporary (yeah, right - it's a not-for-profit organization)
 > Webmaster for a site, and I'm fairly new at this. Many sites carry our
 > link, and we get about a third of our traffic from referrers. One of those
 > referrers has our primary address correct (it's <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.lra-chicago.org" target="_blank">www.lra-chicago.org</a>) but
 > their link is actually to a page called M, so the address that is actually
 > requested is <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.lra-chicago.org/m." target="_blank">www.lra-chicago.org/m.</a> Trouble is, we don't have a page
 > called "M" or "m", so of course, we generate 404 errors.
 >
 > I looked through the error log that tells me that the page didn't exist,
 > but the IP number that appears there seems to be the IP number of the
 > server that last had the request before the request got to the site.
 >
 > So, does anyone know of a way to figure out who the real referrer is? And,
 > if this address looks familiar, it's because I posted a more general
 > question about five or six weeks ago, and I've made a lot of progress
 > fixing things that came up from your comments. Not all of them, but enough
 > that I'm closer to being sure that there's nothing grossly wrong.
 >
 > Thanks to all of you for your help.
 >
 >


There is a method of spamming which involves hitting referrer logs with
their site address. i.e. if you check enough you'll find that their referer
address is also false. Many webmasters check their referring sites. If you
get a 404, you'll definitely check, maybe.

Anyway, it ups their traffic numbers. Ignore it and move on with your site
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat May 28, 2005 6:37 am
Post subject: Re: Locating a referrer [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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Hi, Doc -

Thank you for your note. The server we are on runs Apache, but I don't know
what version or anything else. Our host provides me with a control panel by
Ensign(?), I think.

Our host suggested the use of an .htaccess page, which will cure the
symptom, but I'd rather find the referring site and see if I can get this
fixed. I figure it's worth a little work to avoid clutter. We have a pile of
unused files and excess junk laying aound from several versions of, and
ideas for, the site. I'd like to do some housecleaning and keep the stuff
that's necessary. In the meantime, I have a lot of other things I can work
on while I wait. I'm also the Treasurer of this organization, I do some
database work and I have rental property to manage. So I'm not looking to
waste time, but I do believe in a certain amount of order.

Thanks again for your assistance.


Steve E.

"Doc" <webmaster RemoveThis @tentpants.com> wrote in message
news:429624c1$0$16257$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com...
 > You can check your server logs and find the refering url but you have to
 > tell your server to retrieve this information or it won't by defualt.
 >
 > What server is your website on?
 > apache?
 > iis?
 > those are the two most common.
 > I can tell you how to set up either one.
 >
 > The ip is usually the ip of the person that visited the site the the
 > reffering page.
 >
 >
 > --
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 >
 > "Serious_Practitioner" <Serious_PractitionerNOSPAM RemoveThis @att.net> wrote in
 > message
 > news:Dyole.253747$cg1.162046@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
  >> I read the phrase "sniffing a referrer" in this group the other day...I
  >> wonder if such a process could help me with a problem I'm having with a
 > link
  >> somewhere on the Web.
  >>
  >> Adult content warning - the URL's in this message are to an
  >> adult-oriented
  >> site. If this content is bothersome, please don't go there.
  >>
  >> Anyway -
  >>
  >> I am the temporary (yeah, right - it's a not-for-profit organization)
  >> Webmaster for a site, and I'm fairly new at this. Many sites carry our
 > link,
  >> and we get about a third of our traffic from referrers. One of those
  >> referrers has our primary address correct (it's <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.lra-chicago.org" target="_blank">www.lra-chicago.org</a>) but
  >> their link is actually to a page called M, so the address that is
  >> actually
  >> requested is <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.lra-chicago.org/m." target="_blank">www.lra-chicago.org/m.</a> Trouble is, we don't have a page
 > called
  >> "M" or "m", so of course, we generate 404 errors.
  >>
  >> I looked through the error log that tells me that the page didn't exist,
 > but
  >> the IP number that appears there seems to be the IP number of the server
  >> that last had the request before the request got to the site.
  >>
  >> So, does anyone know of a way to figure out who the real referrer is?
  >> And,
  >> if this address looks familiar, it's because I posted a more general
  >> question about five or six weeks ago, and I've made a lot of progress
 > fixing
  >> things that came up from your comments. Not all of them, but enough that
 > I'm
  >> closer to being sure that there's nothing grossly wrong.
  >>
  >> Thanks to all of you for your help.
  >>
  >>
  >> Steve E.
  >> electronic-services RemoveThis @lra-chicago.org
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
  >>
 >
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 12:06 pm
Post subject: Re: Locating a referrer [Login to view extended thread Info.]
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I could type everything out but I believe the information you need to
customize apache to retrieve the information you want is here.

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.apacheweek.com/features/logfiles" target="_blank">http://www.apacheweek.com/features/logfiles</a>

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"Serious_Practitioner" <Serious_PractitionerNOSPAM.RemoveThis@att.net> wrote in message
news:ZkUle.844213$w62.49571@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
 > Hi, Doc -
 >
 > Thank you for your note. The server we are on runs Apache, but I don't
know
 > what version or anything else. Our host provides me with a control panel
by
 > Ensign(?), I think.
 >
 > Our host suggested the use of an .htaccess page, which will cure the
 > symptom, but I'd rather find the referring site and see if I can get this
 > fixed. I figure it's worth a little work to avoid clutter. We have a pile
of
 > unused files and excess junk laying aound from several versions of, and
 > ideas for, the site. I'd like to do some housecleaning and keep the stuff
 > that's necessary. In the meantime, I have a lot of other things I can work
 > on while I wait. I'm also the Treasurer of this organization, I do some
 > database work and I have rental property to manage. So I'm not looking to
 > waste time, but I do believe in a certain amount of order.
 >
 > Thanks again for your assistance.
 >
 >
 > Steve E.
 >
 > "Doc" <webmaster.RemoveThis@tentpants.com> wrote in message
 > news:429624c1$0$16257$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com...
  > > You can check your server logs and find the refering url but you have to
  > > tell your server to retrieve this information or it won't by defualt.
  > >
  > > What server is your website on?
  > > apache?
  > > iis?
  > > those are the two most common.
  > > I can tell you how to set up either one.
  > >
  > > The ip is usually the ip of the person that visited the site the the
  > > reffering page.
  > >
  > >
  > > --
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.pr0nsites.com</font" target="_blank">http://www.pr0nsites.com</font</a>>
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.tentpants.com</font" target="_blank">http://www.tentpants.com</font</a>>
  > >
  > > "Serious_Practitioner" <Serious_PractitionerNOSPAM.RemoveThis@att.net> wrote in
  > > message
  > > news:Dyole.253747$cg1.162046@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
   > >> I read the phrase "sniffing a referrer" in this group the other day...I
   > >> wonder if such a process could help me with a problem I'm having with a
  > > link
   > >> somewhere on the Web.
   > >>
   > >> Adult content warning - the URL's in this message are to an
   > >> adult-oriented
   > >> site. If this content is bothersome, please don't go there.
   > >>
   > >> Anyway -
   > >>
   > >> I am the temporary (yeah, right - it's a not-for-profit organization)
   > >> Webmaster for a site, and I'm fairly new at this. Many sites carry our
  > > link,
   > >> and we get about a third of our traffic from referrers. One of those
   > >> referrers has our primary address correct (it's <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.lra-chicago.org" target="_blank">www.lra-chicago.org</a>)
but
   > >> their link is actually to a page called M, so the address that is
   > >> actually
   > >> requested is <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.lra-chicago.org/m." target="_blank">www.lra-chicago.org/m.</a> Trouble is, we don't have a page
  > > called
   > >> "M" or "m", so of course, we generate 404 errors.
   > >>
   > >> I looked through the error log that tells me that the page didn't
exist,
  > > but
   > >> the IP number that appears there seems to be the IP number of the
server
   > >> that last had the request before the request got to the site.
   > >>
   > >> So, does anyone know of a way to figure out who the real referrer is?
   > >> And,
   > >> if this address looks familiar, it's because I posted a more general
   > >> question about five or six weeks ago, and I've made a lot of progress
  > > fixing
   > >> things that came up from your comments. Not all of them, but enough
that
  > > I'm
   > >> closer to being sure that there's nothing grossly wrong.
   > >>
   > >> Thanks to all of you for your help.
   > >>
   > >>
   > >> Steve E.
   > >> electronic-services.RemoveThis@lra-chicago.org
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>
  > >
  > >
 >
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 12:09 pm
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or here if you have 1.3x
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://httpd.apache.org/docs/logs.html" target="_blank">http://httpd.apache.org/docs/logs.html</a>

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"Serious_Practitioner" <Serious_PractitionerNOSPAM DeleteThis @att.net> wrote in message
news:ZkUle.844213$w62.49571@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
 > Hi, Doc -
 >
 > Thank you for your note. The server we are on runs Apache, but I don't
know
 > what version or anything else. Our host provides me with a control panel
by
 > Ensign(?), I think.
 >
 > Our host suggested the use of an .htaccess page, which will cure the
 > symptom, but I'd rather find the referring site and see if I can get this
 > fixed. I figure it's worth a little work to avoid clutter. We have a pile
of
 > unused files and excess junk laying aound from several versions of, and
 > ideas for, the site. I'd like to do some housecleaning and keep the stuff
 > that's necessary. In the meantime, I have a lot of other things I can work
 > on while I wait. I'm also the Treasurer of this organization, I do some
 > database work and I have rental property to manage. So I'm not looking to
 > waste time, but I do believe in a certain amount of order.
 >
 > Thanks again for your assistance.
 >
 >
 > Steve E.
 >
 > "Doc" <webmaster DeleteThis @tentpants.com> wrote in message
 > news:429624c1$0$16257$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com...
  > > You can check your server logs and find the refering url but you have to
  > > tell your server to retrieve this information or it won't by defualt.
  > >
  > > What server is your website on?
  > > apache?
  > > iis?
  > > those are the two most common.
  > > I can tell you how to set up either one.
  > >
  > > The ip is usually the ip of the person that visited the site the the
  > > reffering page.
  > >
  > >
  > > --
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.pr0nsites.com</font" target="_blank">http://www.pr0nsites.com</font</a>>
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.tentpants.com</font" target="_blank">http://www.tentpants.com</font</a>>
  > >
  > > "Serious_Practitioner" <Serious_PractitionerNOSPAM DeleteThis @att.net> wrote in
  > > message
  > > news:Dyole.253747$cg1.162046@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
   > >> I read the phrase "sniffing a referrer" in this group the other day...I
   > >> wonder if such a process could help me with a problem I'm having with a
  > > link
   > >> somewhere on the Web.
   > >>
   > >> Adult content warning - the URL's in this message are to an
   > >> adult-oriented
   > >> site. If this content is bothersome, please don't go there.
   > >>
   > >> Anyway -
   > >>
   > >> I am the temporary (yeah, right - it's a not-for-profit organization)
   > >> Webmaster for a site, and I'm fairly new at this. Many sites carry our
  > > link,
   > >> and we get about a third of our traffic from referrers. One of those
   > >> referrers has our primary address correct (it's <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.lra-chicago.org" target="_blank">www.lra-chicago.org</a>)
but
   > >> their link is actually to a page called M, so the address that is
   > >> actually
   > >> requested is <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.lra-chicago.org/m." target="_blank">www.lra-chicago.org/m.</a> Trouble is, we don't have a page
  > > called
   > >> "M" or "m", so of course, we generate 404 errors.
   > >>
   > >> I looked through the error log that tells me that the page didn't
exist,
  > > but
   > >> the IP number that appears there seems to be the IP number of the
server
   > >> that last had the request before the request got to the site.
   > >>
   > >> So, does anyone know of a way to figure out who the real referrer is?
   > >> And,
   > >> if this address looks familiar, it's because I posted a more general
   > >> question about five or six weeks ago, and I've made a lot of progress
  > > fixing
   > >> things that came up from your comments. Not all of them, but enough
that
  > > I'm
   > >> closer to being sure that there's nothing grossly wrong.
   > >>
   > >> Thanks to all of you for your help.
   > >>
   > >>
   > >> Steve E.
   > >> electronic-services DeleteThis @lra-chicago.org
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>
  > >
  > >
 >
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun May 29, 2005 12:14 pm
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specifically this format with referer header request

Combined Log Format
Another commonly used format string is called the Combined Log Format. It
can be used as follows.

LogFormat "%h %l %u %t \"%r\" %>s %b \"%{Referer}i\" \"%{User-agent}i\""
combined
CustomLog log/acces_log combined
This format is exactly the same as the Common Log Format, with the addition
of two more fields. Each of the additional fields uses the percent-directive
%{header}i, where header can be any HTTP request header. The access log
under this format will look like:

127.0.0.1 - frank [10/Oct/2000:13:55:36 -0700] "GET /apache_pb.gif HTTP/1.0"
200 2326 "http://www.example.com/start.html" "Mozilla/4.08 [en] (Win98; I
;Nav)"
The additional fields are:

"http://www.example.com/start.html" (\"%{Referer}i\")
The "Referer" (sic) HTTP request header. This gives the site that the client
reports having been referred from. (This should be the page that links to or
includes /apache_pb.gif).
"Mozilla/4.08 [en] (Win98; I ;Nav)" (\"%{User-agent}i\")
The User-Agent HTTP request header. This is the identifying information that
the client browser reports about itself.
Multiple Access Logs




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"Serious_Practitioner" <Serious_PractitionerNOSPAM DeleteThis @att.net> wrote in message
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 > Hi, Doc -
 >
 > Thank you for your note. The server we are on runs Apache, but I don't
know
 > what version or anything else. Our host provides me with a control panel
by
 > Ensign(?), I think.
 >
 > Our host suggested the use of an .htaccess page, which will cure the
 > symptom, but I'd rather find the referring site and see if I can get this
 > fixed. I figure it's worth a little work to avoid clutter. We have a pile
of
 > unused files and excess junk laying aound from several versions of, and
 > ideas for, the site. I'd like to do some housecleaning and keep the stuff
 > that's necessary. In the meantime, I have a lot of other things I can work
 > on while I wait. I'm also the Treasurer of this organization, I do some
 > database work and I have rental property to manage. So I'm not looking to
 > waste time, but I do believe in a certain amount of order.
 >
 > Thanks again for your assistance.
 >
 >
 > Steve E.
 >
 > "Doc" <webmaster DeleteThis @tentpants.com> wrote in message
 > news:429624c1$0$16257$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com...
  > > You can check your server logs and find the refering url but you have to
  > > tell your server to retrieve this information or it won't by defualt.
  > >
  > > What server is your website on?
  > > apache?
  > > iis?
  > > those are the two most common.
  > > I can tell you how to set up either one.
  > >
  > > The ip is usually the ip of the person that visited the site the the
  > > reffering page.
  > >
  > >
  > > --
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.pr0nsites.com</font" target="_blank">http://www.pr0nsites.com</font</a>>
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.tentpants.com</font" target="_blank">http://www.tentpants.com</font</a>>
  > >
  > > "Serious_Practitioner" <Serious_PractitionerNOSPAM DeleteThis @att.net> wrote in
  > > message
  > > news:Dyole.253747$cg1.162046@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
   > >> I read the phrase "sniffing a referrer" in this group the other day...I
   > >> wonder if such a process could help me with a problem I'm having with a
  > > link
   > >> somewhere on the Web.
   > >>
   > >> Adult content warning - the URL's in this message are to an
   > >> adult-oriented
   > >> site. If this content is bothersome, please don't go there.
   > >>
   > >> Anyway -
   > >>
   > >> I am the temporary (yeah, right - it's a not-for-profit organization)
   > >> Webmaster for a site, and I'm fairly new at this. Many sites carry our
  > > link,
   > >> and we get about a third of our traffic from referrers. One of those
   > >> referrers has our primary address correct (it's <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.lra-chicago.org" target="_blank">www.lra-chicago.org</a>)
but
   > >> their link is actually to a page called M, so the address that is
   > >> actually
   > >> requested is <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.lra-chicago.org/m." target="_blank">www.lra-chicago.org/m.</a> Trouble is, we don't have a page
  > > called
   > >> "M" or "m", so of course, we generate 404 errors.
   > >>
   > >> I looked through the error log that tells me that the page didn't
exist,
  > > but
   > >> the IP number that appears there seems to be the IP number of the
server
   > >> that last had the request before the request got to the site.
   > >>
   > >> So, does anyone know of a way to figure out who the real referrer is?
   > >> And,
   > >> if this address looks familiar, it's because I posted a more general
   > >> question about five or six weeks ago, and I've made a lot of progress
  > > fixing
   > >> things that came up from your comments. Not all of them, but enough
that
  > > I'm
   > >> closer to being sure that there's nothing grossly wrong.
   > >>
   > >> Thanks to all of you for your help.
   > >>
   > >>
   > >> Steve E.
   > >> electronic-services DeleteThis @lra-chicago.org
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>
   > >>
  > >
  > >
 >
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