Indexing dynamic web pages

"Charles Sweeney" <me.DeleteThis@charlessweeney.com> wrote in message
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 >
 > In short, yes, but from my recent experience they don't like "id". It may
 > well not list your "f_id" pages.
 >

Google will not follow "id=" links due to the fact that they are often
session id's. You are correct to change them.


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  > > I have a client who has a site with lots of dynamic pages in PHP.
  > > Does anyone have experience with indexing the following kinds of links:
  > >
  > > a href="../chisiamo/index.php?f_id=10#id10-0-0"
  > >
  > > and if the spider CAN follow it will the creature be able to
differentiate
  > > between the above page and the below page: (note: after the 'id' the
 > number
  > > changes)
  > >
  > > a href="../chisiamo/index.php?f_id=20#id20-0-0"
  > >
  > > I know Google and other search engines will follow a php extension but
 > will
  > > they be able to grab the info from the database? In short, can they
 > follow
  > > the above links and index 2 separate pages?
 >
 > In short, yes, but from my recent experience they don't like "id". It may
 > well not list your "f_id" pages.
 >
 > I called mine something else, it was for property listings, so I changed
 > "id=1234" to "house=1234". Google picked this up no problem, visited my
 > database for each link, I now have 450 exrta pages listed on Google!
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Thanks for answering so quickly Charles.

Wouldn't Google see the "f_id" part of the link the same as "fid" because of
the underscore joining the characters? I know a hyphen "-" will separate
words but I was under the impression that an underscore "_" would unite them
into 1 word. If Google doesn't like "id=1234" that's fine by me (although
I'd like to know if somebody else can verify that such a link has been
indexed by our friendly spider), but it should interpret "f_id" as another
word just like your "house=1234" as opposed to "id=1234".

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"Bobby" <bobby RemoveThis @goldnet.it> wrote in message
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 > Thanks for answering so quickly Charles.
 >
 > Wouldn't Google see the "f_id" part of the link the same as "fid" because
of
 > the underscore joining the characters? I know a hyphen "-" will separate
 > words but I was under the impression that an underscore "_" would unite
them
 > into 1 word. If Google doesn't like "id=1234" that's fine by me (although
 > I'd like to know if somebody else can verify that such a link has been
 > indexed by our friendly spider), but it should interpret "f_id" as another
 > word just like your "house=1234" as opposed to "id=1234".
 >
 > Does that make sense?

It sure does make sense Bobby, but I for one wouldn't rely on it. When I
last checked it, I got the impression Google didn't like any variation of
"...id=".

To save me re-writing my scripts, I just made one simple script using
"house=" that pulled everything from the database, and put it on the site
somewhere for Google to follow, which it did.

You may have no option but to try it and see.
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"Gateway Farm Alpacas" <johnwmerrell RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
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 > "Charles Sweeney" <me RemoveThis @charlessweeney.com> wrote in message
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 >
  > >
  > > In short, yes, but from my recent experience they don't like "id". It
may
  > > well not list your "f_id" pages.
  > >
 >
 > Google will not follow "id=" links due to the fact that they are often
 > session id's. You are correct to change them.
 >
 >

I have a Snitz forum on one of my sites and some 250 pages are spidered,
even with 'topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=104' type links used on the forum.

Session id's aren't spidered because at any one time you may have several
spiders on the site, each would have a different session id even for the
same page.

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On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:36:15 +0100, Adi wrote:

 > "Gateway Farm Alpacas" <johnwmerrell.DeleteThis@earthlink.net> wrote in message
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  >> "Charles Sweeney" <me.DeleteThis@charlessweeney.com> wrote in message
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  >>
   >>>
   >>> In short, yes, but from my recent experience they don't like "id". It
 > may
   >>> well not list your "f_id" pages.
   >>>
  >>
  >> Google will not follow "id=" links due to the fact that they are often
  >> session id's. You are correct to change them.
  >>
  >>
 >
 > I have a Snitz forum on one of my sites and some 250 pages are spidered,
 > even with 'topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=104' type links used on the forum.
 >
 > Session id's aren't spidered because at any one time you may have several
 > spiders on the site, each would have a different session id even for the
 > same page.
 >
 > Seems some id's are spidered though.

How does the Google spider know if an ID is a real session ID or an ID used
for a certain page? Length of ID?




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"Karim" <karim3411@!!yahoo!!.com> wrote in message
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 > On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 11:36:15 +0100, Adi wrote:
 >
  > > "Gateway Farm Alpacas" <johnwmerrell RemoveThis @earthlink.net> wrote in message
  > > news:vp62en5klc015e@corp.supernews.com...
   > >>
   > >> "Charles Sweeney" <me RemoveThis @charlessweeney.com> wrote in message
   > >> news:bmuup0$qp3tc$1@ID-162618.news.uni-berlin.de...
   > >>
   > >>>
   > >>> In short, yes, but from my recent experience they don't like "id". It
  > > may
   > >>> well not list your "f_id" pages.
   > >>>
   > >>
   > >> Google will not follow "id=" links due to the fact that they are often
   > >> session id's. You are correct to change them.
   > >>
   > >>
  > >
  > > I have a Snitz forum on one of my sites and some 250 pages are spidered,
  > > even with 'topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=104' type links used on the forum.
  > >
  > > Session id's aren't spidered because at any one time you may have
several
  > > spiders on the site, each would have a different session id even for the
  > > same page.
  > >
  > > Seems some id's are spidered though.
 >
 > How does the Google spider know if an ID is a real session ID or an ID
used
 > for a certain page? Length of ID?
 >

Maybe. I would guess that id's for departments, topics etc. would generally
be single figure numbers whereas session id's may be larger to account for
the number of people on a site at any one time. Maybe they discriminate in
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