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Viper wrote:

 > Baho Utot wrote:
  >> Viper wrote:
  >>
   >>> SpaceGirl wrote:
   >>>> Viper wrote:
   >>>>
   >>>>> I found a great deal on a server. I figured to help a few people
   >>>>> out I would get it if I could get 15 people interested in 1 gig
   >>>>> space / 100 gig band for $12.99/month. Well only one person
   >>>>> contacted me in the few weeks after the offer was put on a few
   >>>>> hosting forums.
   >>>>>
   >>>>> Why wasnt anyone interested?
   >>>>> I would have made NO profit at all on that price. Just wanted to
   >>>>> help some people out
   >>>>> Can people really get that much for cheaper?
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>
   >>>> For a little more than double that price you can get your own server
   >>>> with 6 times the space, 150gb traffic per month, unlimited email,
   >>>> SQLServer, mysql, J2EE, Perl, PHP, ASP.NET, domain name thrown in,
   >>>> DNS managment, your own control panel, etc etc etc and own it
   >>>> yourself... there are 1001 offers out there these days.
   >>>>
   >>>> 15 * 12.99 sound very much like you'd be making a HUGE profit,
   >>>> considering a much better setup would only sting you $26 a month.
   >>>
   >>> Where can you find a
   >>> DUAL 3.06 gig XEON
   >>> 2 gig RAM
   >>> 120 GB HD x 2
   >>> 2000 GB band
   >>> w/CPanel
   >>> For that cheap?
  >>
  >> Ebay?????
 >
 > NEVER trust hosting found for sale on ebay.

Who's talking hosting?
You posted a computer, Dual 3.06g Xeon remember?

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Baho Utot wrote:
 > Viper wrote:
 >
  >> Baho Utot wrote:
   >>> Viper wrote:
   >>>
   >>>> SpaceGirl wrote:
   >>>>> Viper wrote:
   >>>>>
   >>>>>> I found a great deal on a server. I figured to help a few people
   >>>>>> out I would get it if I could get 15 people interested in 1 gig
   >>>>>> space / 100 gig band for $12.99/month. Well only one person
   >>>>>> contacted me in the few weeks after the offer was put on a few
   >>>>>> hosting forums.
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>> Why wasnt anyone interested?
   >>>>>> I would have made NO profit at all on that price. Just wanted to
   >>>>>> help some people out
   >>>>>> Can people really get that much for cheaper?
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>> For a little more than double that price you can get your own
   >>>>> server with 6 times the space, 150gb traffic per month, unlimited
   >>>>> email, SQLServer, mysql, J2EE, Perl, PHP, ASP.NET, domain name
   >>>>> thrown in, DNS managment, your own control panel, etc etc etc and
   >>>>> own it yourself... there are 1001 offers out there these days.
   >>>>>
   >>>>> 15 * 12.99 sound very much like you'd be making a HUGE profit,
   >>>>> considering a much better setup would only sting you $26 a month.
   >>>>
   >>>> Where can you find a
   >>>> DUAL 3.06 gig XEON
   >>>> 2 gig RAM
   >>>> 120 GB HD x 2
   >>>> 2000 GB band
   >>>> w/CPanel
   >>>> For that cheap?
   >>>
   >>> Ebay?????
  >>
  >> NEVER trust hosting found for sale on ebay.
 >
 > Who's talking hosting?
 > You posted a computer, Dual 3.06g Xeon remember?

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Viper wrote:

 > SpaceGirl wrote:
 >
  >>Viper wrote:
  >>
  >>
   >>>William Tasso wrote:
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>>Viper wrote:
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>>I found a great deal on a server. I figured to help a few people
   >>>>>out ...
   >>>>>
   >>>>>Why wasnt anyone interested?
   >>>>>...
   >>>>
   >>>>Take a look around - you may there's a hosting co-op that already
   >>>>has the facilities you need. Otherwise to start your own needs a few
   >>>>good friends with similar plans.
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>co-op? It would have been like a regular hosting account. I would
   >>>have took care of all support....
   >>>
   >>>
  >>
  >>And if you are sick? Or away and unable to answer support calls? Could
  >>you offer an SLA?
 >
 >
 > What happens when any other hosting owner gets sick or goes away for a
 > while?
 >
 >
Someone else fills in... there's no one single person supporting our
platforms; there's a team of support staff who're available 24/7/365 and
usually within 4 hours.

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SpaceGirl wrote:
 > Viper wrote:
 >
  >> SpaceGirl wrote:
  >>
   >>> Viper wrote:
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>> William Tasso wrote:
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>> Viper wrote:
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>> I found a great deal on a server. I figured to help a few people
   >>>>>> out ...
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>> Why wasnt anyone interested?
   >>>>>> ...
   >>>>>
   >>>>> Take a look around - you may there's a hosting co-op that already
   >>>>> has the facilities you need. Otherwise to start your own needs a
   >>>>> few good friends with similar plans.
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>> co-op? It would have been like a regular hosting account. I would
   >>>> have took care of all support....
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>
   >>> And if you are sick? Or away and unable to answer support calls?
   >>> Could you offer an SLA?
  >>
  >>
  >> What happens when any other hosting owner gets sick or goes away for
  >> a while?
  >>
  >>
 > Someone else fills in... there's no one single person supporting our
 > platforms; there's a team of support staff who're available 24/7/365
 > and usually within 4 hours.

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On 2004-08-23, Viper <venomx DeleteThis @gmail.com> wrote:
 > SpaceGirl wrote:
  >> Viper wrote:
  >>
   >>> SpaceGirl wrote:
   >>>
   >>>> Viper wrote:
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>> William Tasso wrote:
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>> Viper wrote:
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>> I found a great deal on a server. I figured to help a few people
   >>>>>>> out ...
   >>>>>>>
   >>>>>>> Why wasnt anyone interested?
   >>>>>>> ...
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>> Take a look around - you may there's a hosting co-op that already
   >>>>>> has the facilities you need. Otherwise to start your own needs a
   >>>>>> few good friends with similar plans.
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>> co-op? It would have been like a regular hosting account. I would
   >>>>> have took care of all support....
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>
   >>>> And if you are sick? Or away and unable to answer support calls?
   >>>> Could you offer an SLA?
   >>>
   >>>
   >>> What happens when any other hosting owner gets sick or goes away for
   >>> a while?
   >>>
   >>>
  >> Someone else fills in... there's no one single person supporting our
  >> platforms; there's a team of support staff who're available 24/7/365
  >> and usually within 4 hours.
 >
 > And who says I dont have a support staff?
 >
 >

Your dog fluffy doesn't count as support staff <g>

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On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 17:49:20 -0400 "Viper" <venomx RemoveThis @gmail.com> broke
off from drinking a cup of tea at to write:

 >I found a great deal on a server. I figured to help a few people out I would
 >get it if I could get 15 people interested in 1 gig space / 100 gig band for
 >$12.99/month. Well only one person contacted me in the few weeks after the
 >offer was put on a few hosting forums.
 >
 >Why wasnt anyone interested?
 >I would have made NO profit at all on that price. Just wanted to help some
 >people out
 >Can people really get that much for cheaper?

As other people have said, it is a matter of PERCEIVED size,
reliability and trust.

Perhaps you were perceived as being "a kid in the bedroom with a cable
connection" rather than a professional business ?

Marketing is a complex matter, but worthy of consideration.

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Viper wrote:

 > SpaceGirl wrote:
 >
  >>Viper wrote:
  >>
  >>
   >>>SpaceGirl wrote:
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>>Viper wrote:
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>>William Tasso wrote:
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>>Viper wrote:
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>>I found a great deal on a server. I figured to help a few people
   >>>>>>>out ...
   >>>>>>>
   >>>>>>>Why wasnt anyone interested?
   >>>>>>>...
   >>>>>>
   >>>>>>Take a look around - you may there's a hosting co-op that already
   >>>>>>has the facilities you need. Otherwise to start your own needs a
   >>>>>>few good friends with similar plans.
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>>co-op? It would have been like a regular hosting account. I would
   >>>>>have took care of all support....
   >>>>>
   >>>>>
   >>>>
   >>>>And if you are sick? Or away and unable to answer support calls?
   >>>>Could you offer an SLA?
   >>>
   >>>
   >>>What happens when any other hosting owner gets sick or goes away for
   >>>a while?
   >>>
   >>>
  >>
  >>Someone else fills in... there's no one single person supporting our
  >>platforms; there's a team of support staff who're available 24/7/365
  >>and usually within 4 hours.
 >
 >
 > And who says I dont have a support staff?

Oooookay... well you dont come across as an enterprise-running sort of
guy. Sorry if I got the wrong end of the stick.


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Matt Probert wrote:

 > On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 17:49:20 -0400 "Viper" <venomx.RemoveThis@gmail.com> broke
 > off from drinking a cup of tea at to write:
 >
 >
  >>I found a great deal on a server. I figured to help a few people out I would
  >>get it if I could get 15 people interested in 1 gig space / 100 gig band for
  >>$12.99/month. Well only one person contacted me in the few weeks after the
  >>offer was put on a few hosting forums.
  >>
  >>Why wasnt anyone interested?
  >>I would have made NO profit at all on that price. Just wanted to help some
  >>people out
  >>Can people really get that much for cheaper?
 >
 >
 > As other people have said, it is a matter of PERCEIVED size,
 > reliability and trust.
 >
 > Perhaps you were perceived as being "a kid in the bedroom with a cable
 > connection" rather than a professional business ?
 >
 > Marketing is a complex matter, but worthy of consideration.
 >
 > Matt Probert
 > Technical Manager
 > The Probert Encyclopaedia
 >

That was the impression I had. Apparently I'm wrong.

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On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 18:05:24 -0400, Viper <venomx.RemoveThis@gmail.com> declared in
alt.www.webmaster:

 > My hosting is reliable and usually not cheap. And I can be trusted.

But they don't know that, do they?

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Mark Parnell wrote:
 > On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 18:05:24 -0400, Viper <venomx.TakeThisOut@gmail.com> declared
 > in alt.www.webmaster:
 >
  >> My hosting is reliable and usually not cheap. And I can be trusted.
 >
 > But they don't know that, do they?

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"Viper" <venomx.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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 > Mark Parnell wrote:
  > > On Sun, 22 Aug 2004 18:05:24 -0400, Viper <venomx.DeleteThis@gmail.com> declared
  > > in alt.www.webmaster:
  > >
   > >> My hosting is reliable and usually not cheap. And I can be trusted.
  > >
  > > But they don't know that, do they?
 >
 > Tina tried to say it wasnt.

I did not.

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"Viper" <venomx RemoveThis @gmail.com> wrote in message
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 > I found a great deal on a server. I figured to help a few people out I
would
 > get it if I could get 15 people interested in 1 gig space / 100 gig band
for
 > $12.99/month. Well only one person contacted me in the few weeks after
the
 > offer was put on a few hosting forums.
 >
 > Why wasnt anyone interested?
 > I would have made NO profit at all on that price. Just wanted to help
some
 > people out
 > Can people really get that much for cheaper?
 >
The closest we have to that is 800 meg with 8 gig bandwidth for $8 month
and we do not have any trouble filling servers. Perhaps your marketing or
timming is not right? People looking for a host have a bunch of needs that
you need to meet. Space and B/W are only two. Other things are often more
important. How you shape up in other areas might be the issue.

Also, getting clients from hosting forums should be seen as an extra. Best
source of clients always has to be word of mouth. A local, (as in your home
area) promo plan is also a main source. We have clients from all over the
world but around 60% of our clients - ( 95% in the first two years) - come
from approx 200 km of our office location.

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Bill Logan wrote:
 > "Viper" <venomx.RemoveThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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  >> I found a great deal on a server. I figured to help a few people out
  >> ...
 > ...
 > People looking for a host have a
 > bunch of needs that you need to meet. Space and B/W are only two.
 > Other things are often more important.

yep - some folk just want to pay and forget - the co-op paradigm isn't for
everyone.

 > ...
 > Also, getting clients from hosting forums should be seen as an extra.

Halleluiah - shout it from the mountain.

 > Best source of clients always has to be word of mouth.

oh yes - give me local networking every time.

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