Hosting BackUp Plan

Tha RagMan wrote:
 > When I developed my 5th web site it made financial sense to become a
 > reseller rather than buying one hosting site at a time. I am currently
 > up to 20+ and all goes well until the unthinkable happens and
 > customers start screaming about their site being down. My question is
 > this. Do you major players maintain some sort of a backup hosting in
 > case the down time is extensive or (Gasp!) the hosting company goes
 > belly up? I have only dealt with one hosting company and luckily they
 > have always been pretty good with only an occasional down time. If
 > there is such a thing as being prepared for that potential
 > catastrophic day I'd like to have a plan of action in place. What
 > should that plan of action be?
 >
 > As always. My sincere thanks to all of you who contribute and share
 > your wisdom and knowledge to we the unwashed.
 > Tha RagMan

I wouldn't assume that level of redundancy, especially if it's one of those
 >$10/mo hosts. You're probably better off contacting a local consultancy
company for sites that need *that* much redundancy to put together a plan...
which is not a bad idea if the site is your business.

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On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 14:57:14 GMT, Tha RagMan wrote:

 > When I developed my 5th web site it made financial sense to become a
 > reseller rather than buying one hosting site at a time. I am currently
 > up to 20+ and all goes well until the unthinkable happens and
 > customers start screaming about their site being down. My question is
 > this. Do you major players maintain some sort of a backup hosting in
 > case the down time is extensive or (Gasp!) the hosting company goes
 > belly up? I have only dealt with one hosting company and luckily they
 > have always been pretty good with only an occasional down time. If
 > there is such a thing as being prepared for that potential
 > catastrophic day I'd like to have a plan of action in place. What
 > should that plan of action be?
 >
 > As always. My sincere thanks to all of you who contribute and share
 > your wisdom and knowledge to we the unwashed.
 > Tha RagMan

Maybe this is your cheapest redundancy plan if downtime is critical.

Have a second free hosting host another copy of your site and have your
secondary dns server point to them. If your site uses updatable databases,
you will have an issue.


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On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:25:14 -0500, David wrote:

<SNIP>
 >
 > I wouldn't assume that level of redundancy, especially if it's one of those
  >>$10/mo hosts. You're probably better off contacting a local consultancy
 > company for sites that need *that* much redundancy to put together a plan...
 > which is not a bad idea if the site is your business.

Well as the operations manager of a hosting firm that has a $10/mo plan we
certainly do daily backups on all our servers . Is this not a common
practice?

Dave
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Dave the ACME man wrote:
 > On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:25:14 -0500, David wrote:
 >
 > <SNIP>
  >>
  >> I wouldn't assume that level of redundancy, especially if it's one
  >> of those
   >>> $10/mo hosts. You're probably better off contacting a local
   >>> consultancy
  >> company for sites that need *that* much redundancy to put together a
  >> plan... which is not a bad idea if the site is your business.
 >
 > Well as the operations manager of a hosting firm that has a $10/mo
 > plan we certainly do daily backups on all our servers . Is this not
 > a common practice?
 >
 > Dave
 > ACME Hosting & Design
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.acme-ent.net</font" target="_blank">www.acme-ent.net</font</a>>

That's not what the OP was asking for--of course daily, weekly, and monthly
backups would be expected in any hosting package. The issue is a complete
failover situation--so if the server your site crashes, there's no downtime.

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On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 10:13:25 -0500, "Tina - AffordableHOST.com"
<tina RemoveThis @affordablehost.com> wrote:

 >
 >"Tha RagMan" <wmercier.nospam RemoveThis @shelby.net> wrote in message
 >news:e5sk101p91mhhc9ttuq4rc9vtl1huptkcq@4ax.com...
  >> When I developed my 5th web site it made financial sense to become a
  >> reseller rather than buying one hosting site at a time. I am currently
  >> up to 20+ and all goes well until the unthinkable happens and
  >> customers start screaming about their site being down. My question is
  >> this. Do you major players maintain some sort of a backup hosting in
  >> case the down time is extensive or (Gasp!) the hosting company goes
  >> belly up? I have only dealt with one hosting company and luckily they
  >> have always been pretty good with only an occasional down time. If
  >> there is such a thing as being prepared for that potential
  >> catastrophic day I'd like to have a plan of action in place. What
  >> should that plan of action be?
  >>
  >> As always. My sincere thanks to all of you who contribute and share
  >> your wisdom and knowledge to we the unwashed.
  >> Tha RagMan
 >
 >
 >As long as you have recent backups of ALL your website files, you should be
 >okay. It only takes a few minutes to order a new hosting account, from
 >somewhere else, and upload the existing files. From there, update DNS
 >settings...which usually takes about 24 hours to resolve. So, from the time
 >you decide "I'm outta here"...until the time your sites are back online,
 >should only be about 24 hours.
 >
 >Now, if you actually need super-duper mega redundancy on these sites...be
 >prepared to pay alot extra for mirroring, etc.

Tina, David - Thanks for responding with your valuable and insightful
information. It is much appreciated and will be put to good use.
Thanks
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"Tha RagMan" <wmercier.nospam RemoveThis @shelby.net> wrote in message
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 > Tina, David - Thanks for responding with your valuable and insightful
 > information. It is much appreciated and will be put to good use.
 > Thanks

No you can't have a free hosting account.

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On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 19:20:55 -0000, "Charles Sweeney"
<me.DeleteThis@charlessweeney.com> wrote:

 >"Tha RagMan" <wmercier.nospam.DeleteThis@shelby.net> wrote in message
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 >
  >> Tina, David - Thanks for responding with your valuable and insightful
  >> information. It is much appreciated and will be put to good use.
  >> Thanks
 >
 >No you can't have a free hosting account.

Charles;
You sure about no free hosting account? Wait a minute. I'm a reseller.
Think I'll give myself a complimentary site. Never mind.
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"David" <david.TakeThisOut@celerihost.com> wrote in message
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 > Dave the ACME man wrote:
  > > On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 12:25:14 -0500, David wrote:
  > >
  > > <SNIP>
   > >>
   > >> I wouldn't assume that level of redundancy, especially if it's one
   > >> of those
   > >>> $10/mo hosts. You're probably better off contacting a local
   > >>> consultancy
   > >> company for sites that need *that* much redundancy to put together a
   > >> plan... which is not a bad idea if the site is your business.
  > >
  > > Well as the operations manager of a hosting firm that has a $10/mo
  > > plan we certainly do daily backups on all our servers . Is this not
  > > a common practice?
  > >
  > > Dave
  > > ACME Hosting & Design
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.acme-ent.net</font" target="_blank">www.acme-ent.net</font</a>>
 >
 > That's not what the OP was asking for--of course daily, weekly, and
monthly
 > backups would be expected in any hosting package. The issue is a complete
 > failover situation--so if the server your site crashes, there's no
downtime.

I could name a popular hosting company which DIDN'T have regular backups and
completely f'ud up business when I was starting out in the hosting game...

My advice...

With 20 sites - yeah, it maybe neccesary, it might be with one - I was a
webmaster for one site where downtime was NOT an option, financially,
fortunately we chose a host who had a similair attitude (actually, that
should read we eventually chose... <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.TitanHosts.net" target="_blank">www.TitanHosts.net</a> I strongly reccomend
them) there are a lot of good hosts out there now, but there are also a lot
of bad ones, I could name a few bad ones...

Make sure you have as much control over the DNS / domains etc.. or let the
client control that (believe me though, they do have a tendency to forget
passwords etc..) A new host can be obtained in a matter of hours, so
downtime will be limited to about 48 hours...
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