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"SMITTY" <*&^%_@rockwell.rr.com> wrote in message
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 > Coupld someone explain how to keep yje top of a website from moving when
you
 > have to scroll down to read a page. What I mean is I don't want the
banner
 > with links to my other pages to move I wan the customer to be able to see
 > them all the time.

Make your pages shorter, or put links at the bottom of the page.
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SMITTY wrote in message ...
 > Could someone explain how to keep the top of a website from moving
 > when you have to scroll down to read a page.

Do you want something like this, with a fixed top frame ...
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On Fri, 23 Jan 2004 11:23:07 GMT "SMITTY" <*&^%_@rockwell.rr.com>
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 >Coupld someone explain how to keep yje top of a website from moving when you
 >have to scroll down to read a page. What I mean is I don't want the banner
 >with links to my other pages to move I wan the customer to be able to see
 >them all the time.
 >

Further to the other, excellent replies. Another suggestion might be:

1) Put the links at the side
2) Duplicate the links at the bottom of the page as well as the top.

I should suggest, however, as everyone else has, that you try to make
your pages shorter if you can by splitting the content into other
pages.

Matt

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"SMITTY" <*&^%_@rockwell.rr.com> said:

 > Coupld someone explain how to keep yje top of a website from moving when you
 > have to scroll down to read a page.

don't bother


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"William Tasso" <SpamBlocked.DeleteThis@tbdata.com> wrote in message
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 > SMITTY wrote:
  > > Coupld someone explain how to keep yje top of a website from moving
  > > when you have to scroll down to read a page. What I mean is I don't
  > > want the banner with links to my other pages to move I wan the
  > > customer to be able to see them all the time.
 >
 > There are two techniques that spring to mind:
 > o Frames
 > o CSS Position: fixed;
 >
A third option - which I prefer as it doesnt create the same problems is
DHTML
A fourth option I like a little bit less (only because it is able to be
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Bill Logan wrote:
 > "William Tasso" <SpamBlocked.DeleteThis@tbdata.com> wrote in message
 > news:bur0me$le7s2$1@ID-139074.news.uni-berlin.de...
  >> SMITTY wrote:
   >>> Coupld someone explain how to keep yje top of a website from moving
   >>> when you have to scroll down to read a page. What I mean is I don't
   >>> want the banner with links to my other pages to move I wan the
   >>> customer to be able to see them all the time.
  >>
  >> There are two techniques that spring to mind:
  >> o Frames
  >> o CSS Position: fixed;
  >>
 > A third option - which I prefer as it doesnt create the same problems
 > is DHTML

I think option two needs a little help to work in IE - it's been a long time
since I went down that road.

 > A fourth option I like a little bit less (only because it is able to
 > be turned off) is js

speak to me Bill, tell me where/how 3 is different from 4

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"William Tasso" <SpamBlocked DeleteThis @tbdata.com> wrote in message
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 > Bill Logan wrote:
  > > "William Tasso" <SpamBlocked DeleteThis @tbdata.com> wrote in message
  > > news:bur0me$le7s2$1@ID-139074.news.uni-berlin.de...
   > >> SMITTY wrote:
   > >>> Coupld someone explain how to keep yje top of a website from moving
   > >>> when you have to scroll down to read a page. What I mean is I don't
   > >>> want the banner with links to my other pages to move I wan the
   > >>> customer to be able to see them all the time.
   > >>
   > >> There are two techniques that spring to mind:
   > >> o Frames
   > >> o CSS Position: fixed;
   > >>
  > > A third option - which I prefer as it doesnt create the same problems
  > > is DHTML
 >
 > I think option two needs a little help to work in IE - it's been a long
time
 > since I went down that road.
 >
  > > A fourth option I like a little bit less (only because it is able to
  > > be turned off) is js
 >
 > speak to me Bill, tell me where/how 3 is different from 4
 >

Hmmm, thinking the same thing.


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SMITTY wrote:

 > Coupld someone explain how to keep yje top of a website from moving when you
 > have to scroll down to read a page. What I mean is I don't want the banner
 > with links to my other pages to move I wan the customer to be able to see
 > them all the time.

The effect is possible using css (hint: overflow) which will work in all
modern browsers whereas position:fixed does not. I may be able to
supply the necessary code but I think I got rid of it. The only problem
is that it wouldn't scroll with my mouse scrollwheel in Opera, you had
to use the scrollbar.

However, even though it does technically work, it is still a poor design
principle.
1. You are eating up screen real estate unnecessarily. The space is
better used for displaying the real content.
2. It looks weird.
3. You can place links at the bottom of the page.

As for DHTML - do not use it (apart from the problems above). You risk
an unworkable page when JS is disabled, and perhaps more importantly
*every* single script I have seen has been jumpy and looks totally
unprofessional. And the less jumpy they are, the more they demand of the
UA's resources.

So: put this idea back in its box and wait for IE to support
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