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kkiely

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 6:38 am
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If you have a 500 page web site, could your traffic be artifically boosted if
Googlebot and MSNbot visit your site and index all the pages? 4 bots and that
would be 2,000 views. That is assuming a bot visit registers as a page view, is
that true or not?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 6:38 am Post subject: Re: Can Googlebot,etc artifically boost your traffic? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Kkiely" <kkiely DeleteThis @aol.comnojunk> wrote in message news:20040607233834.18493.00000668@mb-m07.aol.com... > If you have a 500 page web site, could your traffic be artifically boosted if > Googlebot and MSNbot visit your site and index all the pages? 4 bots and that > would be 2,000 views. That is assuming a bot visit registers as a page view, is > that true or not? Don't think GBot, or any Search engine bots can even count views. Think for a second. How does the bot know the view count when it's not indexing the pages?? Maybe it leaves a counting worm behind that checks visitors. <!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Can Googlebot,etc artifically boost your traffic?

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 6:38 am Post subject: Re: Can Googlebot,etc artifically boost your traffic? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Kkiely wrote: > If you have a 500 page web site, could your traffic be artifically > boosted if Googlebot and MSNbot visit your site and index all the > pages? 4 bots and that would be 2,000 views. That is assuming a bot > visit registers as a page view, is that true or not? Not sure... But one thing I know is watch how you link your sites pages together. GBot and the MSN Bot got caught in my PPC Search engine... I finally had to ban the IPs from my site and then the next day use robots.txt to block the from indexing anything but the main page.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Can Googlebot,etc artifically boost your traffic?

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 6:38 am Post subject: Re: Can Googlebot,etc artifically boost your traffic? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Kkiely wrote: > If you have a 500 page web site, could your traffic be artifically boosted if > Googlebot and MSNbot visit your site and index all the pages? 4 bots and that > would be 2,000 views. That is assuming a bot visit registers as a page view, is > that true or not? crawler13.googlebot.com - - [01/Jun/2004:04:04:32 -0700] "GET /robots.txt HTTP/1.0" 200 70 "-" "Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)" crawler13.googlebot.com - - [01/Jun/2004:04:04:32 -0700] "GET /spreadsheets.html HTTP/1.0" 200 1123 "-" "Googlebot/2.1 (+http://www.googlebot.com/bot.html)" This can be counted as 2 hits. A visit is often unique IP/address within a given timeframe, so this can be counted as 1 visit. It all depends on how your software works. There are more bots out there, some don't honor the robots.txt. Some are very hard to distinguish from real visitors, if at all. If "someone" visits the links on your site in order (top down on a page), it's often a bot, most often looking for email address(es). -- John MexIT: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://johnbokma.com/mexit/" target="_blank">http://johnbokma.com/mexit/</a> personal page: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://johnbokma.com/" target="_blank">http://johnbokma.com/</a> Experienced Perl programmer available: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://castleamber.com/" target="_blank">http://castleamber.com/</a> Happy Customers: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://castleamber.com/testimonials.html" target="_blank">http://castleamber.com/testimonials.html</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Can Googlebot,etc artifically boost your traffic?

user274

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 6:38 am Post subject: Re: Can Googlebot,etc artifically boost your traffic? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Kkiely" <kkiely.TakeThisOut@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message news:20040607233834.18493.00000668@mb-m07.aol.com... > If you have a 500 page web site, could your traffic be artifically boosted if > Googlebot and MSNbot visit your site and index all the pages? 4 bots and that > would be 2,000 views. That is assuming a bot visit registers as a page view, is > that true or not? If bots indexing your site have enough of an impact on your websites to be a boost to traffic... I would say you have bigger things to worry about<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Can Googlebot,etc artifically boost your traffic?

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 9:12 am Post subject: Re: Can Googlebot,etc artifically boost your traffic? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On 08 Jun 2004 03:38:34 GMT kkiely RemoveThis @aol.comnojunk (Kkiely) broke off from drinking a cup of tea at AOL <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.aol.com" target="_blank">http://www.aol.com</a> to write: >If you have a 500 page web site, could your traffic be artifically boosted if >Googlebot and MSNbot visit your site and index all the pages? 4 bots and that >would be 2,000 views. That is assuming a bot visit registers as a page view, is >that true or not? They register in your logs. They expend your transfer allowance. They don't buy products, but they do provide subsequent advertising. In short. Yes. Matt -- Free searchable encyclopaedia content for your web site: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/xsearch.htm" target="_blank">http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com/xsearch.htm</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Can Googlebot,etc artifically boost your traffic?

user387

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 12:08 pm Post subject: Re: Can Googlebot,etc artifically boost your traffic? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Kkiely wrote: > If you have a 500 page web site, could your traffic be artifically boosted if > Googlebot and MSNbot visit your site and index all the pages? 4 bots and that > would be 2,000 views. That is assuming a bot visit registers as a page view, is > that true or not? They are all in the access_log, but I use Awstats to have a nice overview, and somehow Google and Yahoo aren't registered as page views (they go in a seperate 'bot-department'), but the MSN-bot is registered like a regular visitor. -- Els <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://locusmeus.com/" target="_blank">http://locusmeus.com/</a> Sonhos vem. Sonhos vão. O resto é imperfeito. - Renato Russo -<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Can Googlebot,etc artifically boost your traffic?

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 1:17 pm Post subject: Re: Can Googlebot,etc artifically boost your traffic? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Augustus" <Imperial.Palace.DeleteThis@Rome.com> wrote in message news:2ikvt2FntocbU1@uni-berlin.de... > If bots indexing your site have enough of an impact on your websites to be a > boost to traffic... I would say you have bigger things to worry about ) -- Charles Sweeney <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.CharlesSweeney.com" target="_blank">www.CharlesSweeney.com</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Can Googlebot,etc artifically boost your traffic?

technohippie1

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 11:31 pm Post subject: Re: Can Googlebot,etc artifically boost your traffic? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Kkiely wrote: > If you have a 500 page web site, could your traffic be artifically boosted if > Googlebot and MSNbot visit your site and index all the pages? 4 bots and that > would be 2,000 views. That is assuming a bot visit registers as a page view, is > that true or not? Definately. The stats app I use excludes any IPs I add to the list. MSNbot is the worst at skewing your pageviews. Somewhere, in the FAQs I think, is a list of bots and their associated IPs. Don't stop them in you .htaccess file or you'll fall out of the search engines. But there are a few that are a waste of bandwidth that you can safely deny. Do some research -- Judy <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.technohippie.com/html" target="_blank">http://www.technohippie.com/html</a> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://kaos.evergreen.edu/KAOS16.ram" target="_blank">http://kaos.evergreen.edu/KAOS16.ram</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Can Googlebot,etc artifically boost your traffic?

technohippie1

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 11:33 pm Post subject: Re: Can Googlebot,etc artifically boost your traffic? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Viper wrote: > Kkiely wrote: > >>If you have a 500 page web site, could your traffic be artifically >>boosted if Googlebot and MSNbot visit your site and index all the >>pages? 4 bots and that would be 2,000 views. That is assuming a bot >>visit registers as a page view, is that true or not? > > > Not sure... But one thing I know is watch how you link your sites pages > together. GBot and the MSN Bot got caught in my PPC Search engine... I > finally had to ban the IPs from my site and then the next day use robots.txt > to block the from indexing anything but the main page. > > They get stuck in my ODP ... I've denied that directory and my traffic is looking more normal. -- Judy <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.technohippie.com/html" target="_blank">http://www.technohippie.com/html</a> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://kaos.evergreen.edu/KAOS16.ram" target="_blank">http://kaos.evergreen.edu/KAOS16.ram</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Can Googlebot,etc artifically boost your traffic?

technohippie1

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Jun 08, 2004 11:36 pm Post subject: Re: Can Googlebot,etc artifically boost your traffic? [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

TechnoHippie wrote: > Kkiely wrote: > >> If you have a 500 page web site, could your traffic be artifically >> boosted if >> Googlebot and MSNbot visit your site and index all the pages? 4 bots >> and that >> would be 2,000 views. That is assuming a bot visit registers as a page >> view, is >> that true or not? > > > Definately. The stats app I use excludes any IPs I add to the list. > MSNbot is the worst at skewing your pageviews. Somewhere, in the FAQs I > think, is a list of bots and their associated IPs. Don't stop them in > you .htaccess file or you'll fall out of the search engines. But there > are a few that are a waste of bandwidth that you can safely deny. > > Do some research > robots.txt I meant robots.txt ouch Maybe I just need to get a better computer chair. -- Judy <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.technohippie.com/html" target="_blank">http://www.technohippie.com/html</a> <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://kaos.evergreen.edu/KAOS16.ram" target="_blank">http://kaos.evergreen.edu/KAOS16.ram</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: Can Googlebot,etc artifically boost your traffic?

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