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user283

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 3:19 pm
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Hello Webmasters,

I've developed a very basic site for my parents-in-law to provide some
brochure-ware for their travel agency. About three months ago I submitted
the site to Google. The URL for site still isn't listed at all (not even at
the bottom of 476 returns for their company name).

I know that no other sites link to their page (I did the link: function in
Google) so does this mean that I have no hope of ever getting indexed by
Google? Or could it be that my HTML is not right / working.

So the short version of the question - do you need to have at least one
"link:" returned on Google to get indexed?

Thanks for you help and enjoy your lunch.

Cheers,
Mark B.

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 3:30 pm
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Mark Bilbrough wrote:
 > Hello Webmasters,

How do you do?

 > I've developed a very basic site for my parents-in-law to provide some
 > brochure-ware for their travel agency. About three months ago I
 > submitted the site to Google. The URL for site

is what?

 > still isn't listed at
 > all (not even at the bottom of 476 returns for their company name).

which is?

 > I know that no other sites link to their page (I did the link:
 > function in Google)

doesn't prove there are no sites linking, just that google doesn't have them
or doesn't think they are worth mentioning (PR<4)

 > so does this mean that I have no hope of ever
 > getting indexed by Google?

no - but links do help and many would argue that a few good links work
better than any amount of SE site submission pages

 > Or could it be that my HTML is not right
 > / working.

hmmm - need that URL I'm afraid - crystal ball out to play with its friends
atm

 > So the short version of the question - do you need to have at least
 > one "link:" returned on Google to get indexed?

no - but it helps

 > Thanks for you help and enjoy your lunch.
 >

thank you, and you yours.


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(Msg. 3) Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 3:38 pm
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  > > I've developed a very basic site for my parents-in-law to provide some
  > > brochure-ware for their travel agency. About three months ago I
  > > submitted the site to Google. The URL for site
 >
 > is what?
 >
  > > still isn't listed at
  > > all (not even at the bottom of 476 returns for their company name).
 >
 > which is?
 >

Hi William (and other webmasters),

The URL is <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.manukaplazatravel.com.au" target="_blank">http://www.manukaplazatravel.com.au</a>

The company name is "Manuka Plaza Travel" which I've been typing into
Google.

The reason I didn't put it before is I felt a bit self conscious that people
might think I was trying to spam them with "advertising".

Anyhow I'd appreciate it if you could have a look.

Cheers,

Mark B.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 3:38 pm
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 > no - but links do help and many would argue that a few good links work
 > better than any amount of SE site submission pages

I'm a firm beleiver in the 'many links' theory.....Of course, these links
are useless without well thought out keywords and body text.....
Interestingly, I've started to notice that the <title></title> portion has
more and more relevance in how the search engines find a site.....<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 3:45 pm
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Sam (primetlc® webmaster) wrote:
  >> no - but links do help and many would argue that a few good links
  >> work better than any amount of SE site submission pages
 >
 > I'm a firm beleiver in the 'many links' theory.....

good - they work well.

 > Of course, these
 > links are useless without well thought out keywords and body text.....

That's SEO - the query AIUI was how to get in to the SE index in the first
place.

 > Interestingly, I've started to notice that the <title></title>
 > portion has more and more relevance

it's a strong clue to the content - or should be ;o)

 > in how the search engines find a
 > site.....

A small but important distinction: Search Engines don't find sites, they
find documents/pages.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 3:56 pm
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 > A small but important distinction: Search Engines don't find sites, they
 > find documents/pages.

True.....Sometimes my choice of words isn't always the best Smile<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 4:02 pm
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Sam (primetlc® webmaster) wrote:
  >> A small but important distinction: Search Engines don't find sites,
  >> they find documents/pages.
 >
 > True.....Sometimes my choice of words isn't always the best Smile

Hey - I don't mind ;o)

just remember to be careful in front of your wife - if you find a way of
explaining "damn good shag" actually meant you popped out for a few pints
with your mates, then please do publish the details. I suspect you could
charge - real money ;o)

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2003 4:10 pm
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Mark Bilbrough wrote:
   >>> I've developed a very basic site for my parents-in-law to provide
   >>> some brochure-ware for their travel agency. About three months ago
   >>> I submitted the site to Google. The URL for site
  >>
  >> is what?
  >>
   >>> still isn't listed at
   >>> all (not even at the bottom of 476 returns for their company name).
  >>
  >> which is?
  >>
 >
<font color=purple> > The URL is <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.manukaplazatravel.com.au</font" target="_blank">http://www.manukaplazatravel.com.au</font</a>>
 >
 > The company name is "Manuka Plaza Travel" which I've been typing into
 > Google.
 >

You do have a link but it's from a useless (for links) page at haxwax.

The company obviously use press releases as part of the marketing mix. get
the url included from now on.

Beg, steal or blag as many links as you can from friends, colleagues and
associates.

As for your markup - it has issues (read the archive[1], hang out here for a
while or both) but there are many pages like yours in the google index.

if you want a site critique you just have to ask - here is good although
you may like to crosspost[2] to news:alt.html.critique

[1] <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://groups.google.com" target="_blank">http://groups.google.com</a>
[2] crosspost is send the same news post to two (or more) groups at the same
time. It is NOT multi posting which is sending separate identical posts to
two (or more) groups - Multi-posting is a bad thing.
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 6:31 am
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Go find some travel agency online directories, and submit their URL to them
all. Once they get listed it'll help with Google.

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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 7:33 am
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"Mark Bilbrough" <mark.bilbrough RemoveThis @geowise.co.uk> wrote in message
news:bnr0s8$v2$1$8300dec7@news.demon.co.uk...
   > > > I've developed a very basic site for my parents-in-law to provide some
   > > > brochure-ware for their travel agency. About three months ago I
   > > > submitted the site to Google. The URL for site
  > >
  > > is what?
  > >
   > > > still isn't listed at
   > > > all (not even at the bottom of 476 returns for their company name).
  > >
  > > which is?
  > >
 >
 > Hi William (and other webmasters),
 >
<font color=purple> > The URL is <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.manukaplazatravel.com.au</font" target="_blank">http://www.manukaplazatravel.com.au</font</a>>
 >
 > The company name is "Manuka Plaza Travel" which I've been typing into
 > Google.
 >
 > The reason I didn't put it before is I felt a bit self conscious that
people
 > might think I was trying to spam them with "advertising".
 >
 > Anyhow I'd appreciate it if you could have a look.
 >
 > Cheers,
 >
 > Mark B.
 >
 >

I would consider swapping links with you from my PR 5 (PR 4 on links page)
site if your site provided
more information about places and tours in Canberra for which you can do
bookings.

Canberra has a lot to offer (I lived in the Belconnen area for 10 years) but
you provide very little
information to encourage people to visit and make bookings with you.

Without good content you won't get the links you need for a good position in
Google.

B. Evans (Trusylver)
Discover Rainbow Beach and Fraser Island
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2003 11:03 am
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 >
 > I would consider swapping links with you from my PR 5 (PR 4 on links page)
 > site if your site provided
 > more information about places and tours in Canberra for which you can do
 > bookings.
 >
 > Canberra has a lot to offer (I lived in the Belconnen area for 10 years)
but
 > you provide very little
 > information to encourage people to visit and make bookings with you.
 >
 > Without good content you won't get the links you need for a good position
in
 > Google.


Hi Truslyver,

Thanks for the offer (and advice) - I'll let my parents-in-law know and get
back to you.

Cheers,
Mark B.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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