Google AdSense reults

"Kkiely" <kkiely.DeleteThis@aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
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 > Can some people please post their financial results along with how many
visitrs
 > & page views they get. I tried doing research on the results of Adsense
but all
 > I get is people talkign about the theoretical value to the site. Does
anyone
 > want to share hard core numbers?

One cannot discuss such things without Google's prior written permission.
This is what the publisher agrees to when signing up.

Anyway, what right do you have to ask for people's financial results?
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<< One cannot discuss such things without Google's prior written permission.
This is what the publisher agrees to when signing up. >>

Are you tel;ling me that if i sign up for it, that Google doesn't allow me to
post on a Bulletin Board, "I made $20 today?"

<< Anyway, what right do you have to ask for people's financial results? >>

Please drop the attitude. I'm not acting like I have the "right" to know - i'm
simply asking people if they want to share. Christ. It was a simple question
not directed at anyone in particular. If people want to keep it quiet then let
them. If they want to share then it will help out a lot of people.
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"Kkiely" <kkiely DeleteThis @aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
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 > << One cannot discuss such things without Google's prior written
permission.
 > This is what the publisher agrees to when signing up. >>
 >
 > Are you tel;ling me that if i sign up for it, that Google doesn't allow me
to
 > post on a Bulletin Board, "I made $20 today?"

Without their prior written permission, as agreed.

 > << Anyway, what right do you have to ask for people's financial results?
  >>
 >
 > Please drop the attitude. I'm not acting like I have the "right" to know -
i'm
 > simply asking people if they want to share. Christ. It was a simple
question
 > not directed at anyone in particular. If people want to keep it quiet then
let
 > them. If they want to share then it will help out a lot of people.

Most people don't like "sharing" their financial information.

Instead of a million questions, why don't you just sign up for it, and see
how it goes? Even if people gave you their experiences, it still doesn't
mean much 'til you try it yourself.

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<< Most people don't like "sharing" their financial information.>>

Yeah, that is why it is a question because they have the choice of answering it

<< Instead of a million questions, why don't you just sign up for it, and see
how it goes? >>

Great straw man you are builing there. I ask 1 question - not a million.

<< Even if people gave you their experiences, it still doesn't mean much 'til
you try it yourself. >>

Yeah it does. If 30 people say it sucks then there is a greater chance I'm nto
going to use it than of 30 people say it is great. Word of mouth means
something.
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Kkiely wrote:
 > << Most people don't like "sharing" their financial information.>>
 >
 > Yeah, that is why it is a question because they have the choice of
 > answering it
 >
 > << Instead of a million questions, why don't you just sign up for it,
 > and see how it goes? >>
 >
 > Great straw man you are builing there. I ask 1 question - not a
 > million.
 >
 > << Even if people gave you their experiences, it still doesn't mean
 > much 'til you try it yourself. >>
 >
 > Yeah it does. If 30 people say it sucks then there is a greater
 > chance I'm nto going to use it than of 30 people say it is great.
 > Word of mouth means something.

They dont allow you to talk about it at all. I know when I signed up I got
the impression that I was not to even meantion the ads on the site.

For it to do good you really need a site that has content that they have
advertisers for. I have a few sites that all I ever see is the charity ads
on. I have a few I see new ads all the time. Give it a try, if you dont like
it remove the ads and at the end of the year you will be paid unless during
the time you try it you make $100.

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"Kkiely" <kkiely DeleteThis @aol.comnojunk> wrote in message
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 > Yeah it does. If 30 people say it sucks then there is a greater chance I'm
nto
 > going to use it than of 30 people say it is great. Word of mouth means
 > something.

Do you ever do anything for yourself, or do you just follow the flock?
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I do things myself, WITH the input/help of other people who have already been
there.

Whats your I-cant-let-this-issue-go answer now?
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In article <20040529202652.13967.00000088.TakeThisOut@mb-m24.aol.com>, Kkiely
says...

 > << Even if people gave you their experiences, it still doesn't mean much 'til
 > you try it yourself. >>
 >
 > Yeah it does. If 30 people say it sucks then there is a greater chance I'm nto
 > going to use it than of 30 people say it is great. Word of mouth means
 > something.

I started using AdSense a few days ago so I can't say much about it, but
I can tell you how impressed I was with the relevancy of the ads.

You might as well give it a try. It's easy to customise to fit your site
and isn't nearly as ugly as a banner.

You'll have to be accepted by Google first though. I was rejected, only
to receive an email a week later to tell me they wanted me in their club
after all.

I felt all warm and fuzzy inside.

Then I realised I'd just undercooked the microwave lasagna I had earlier
and I was sick all night.

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On 29 May 2004 23:49:36 GMT kkiely.TakeThisOut@aol.comnojunk (Kkiely) broke off
from drinking a cup of tea at AOL <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.aol.com" target="_blank">http://www.aol.com</a> to write:

 >Can some people please post their financial results along with how many visitrs
 >& page views they get. I tried doing research on the results of Adsense but all
 >I get is people talkign about the theoretical value to the site. Does anyone
 >want to share hard core numbers?

Strangely enough, Google prohibits the exchange of this information.
Suffice to say, we trialled Adsense, and then dropped it....

Matt

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On 30 May 2004 00:26:52 GMT, kkiely.DeleteThis@aol.comnojunk (Kkiely) wrote:

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 ><< Even if people gave you their experiences, it still doesn't mean much 'til
 >you try it yourself. >>
 >
 >Yeah it does. If 30 people say it sucks then there is a greater chance I'm nto
 >going to use it than of 30 people say it is great. Word of mouth means
 >something.

Or part of the 30 people could be basing their comment of "it sucks"
based on the amount of revenue generated from their sites. A person
booted out of the program may also have that play a factor in their
"it sucks" thought.

One of my sites has generated 3x more in revenue through Adsense than
the original site I put Adsense's script on - no check sent my way yet
though. So, in my opinion and based on my experience, it would depend
on the content, which subsequently helps on which ads are displayed -
therefore how much a click on an ad may generate, on what a person's
experience, and revenue, thoughts would be in the end.

I agree with Charles and some others: It is just something that
someone has to try for themself to see if works out for them, and
their sites, or not. Your experience may be similar to Matt's where
you decide it just isn't something you feel benefits you or your site
to offer Adsense for the readers.

The only notations that I can add that may of be worth any
consideration is that I opted to use one of their 2-ad displays on my
sites - and both of my sites, using Adsense, would fall under
"informational sites" heading [so didn't have a risk of "competitor's
ads" showing up].

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So basically what I am hearing is that the success seems to be dependent on
the industry, which I assume is a result of which industries represented on the
web make the most money. It seems to be there seems to be an opportunity in
the marketplace for someone to monitor AdSense returns by industry, for
example:
Online Drugs (Xanax, etc) = .15 per click
Gambling = 1.12 per click
Porn = .10 per click
etc
But that's out of my league.
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On 30 May 2004 14:37:06 GMT kkiely DeleteThis @aol.comnojunk (Kkiely) broke off
from drinking a cup of tea at AOL <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.aol.com" target="_blank">http://www.aol.com</a> to write:

 > So basically what I am hearing is that the success seems to be dependent on
 >the industry, which I assume is a result of which industries represented on the
 >web make the most money. It seems to be there seems to be an opportunity in
 >the marketplace for someone to monitor AdSense returns by industry, for
 >example:
 > Online Drugs (Xanax, etc) = .15 per click
 > Gambling = 1.12 per click
 > Porn = .10 per click
 > etc
 >But that's out of my league.

As far as I have been able to ascertian, and bear in mind that Google
is very secretive about the revenue one may generate from Adsense
adverts, is that Adsense may suit a small site that doesn't qualify
for "real" internet advertising. Which is possibly okay for a hobby
site to earn back the cost of hosting.

Naturally there will be exceptions, and there will be liars who claim
to make "millions".

Matt

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On 30 May 2004 14:37:06 GMT, kkiely.TakeThisOut@aol.comnojunk (Kkiely) wrote:

 > So basically what I am hearing is that the success seems to be dependent on
 >the industry, which I assume is a result of which industries represented on the
 >web make the most money. It seems to be there seems to be an opportunity in
 >the marketplace for someone to monitor AdSense returns by industry, for
 >example:
 > Online Drugs (Xanax, etc) = .15 per click
 > Gambling = 1.12 per click
 > Porn = .10 per click
 > etc
 >But that's out of my league.

I don't think it's that simplistic - nor what I was trying to infer at
all.

The stats for Adsense only share how many clicks were generated and
the total amount for all those clicks. No indicator of what
product-theme/type of ad that had been clicked on is shared with you.
Most one can do, if sharing different ad blocks or using adsense on
different sites, is channel data - to help you determine which ad
display works best with your readers or which site had how many
click-throughs in comparison to another.

Tightly theming a site's contents may help on limiting the variety of
ads shared. But it _does_ appear to boil down to the actual text
content shared on the page and then what words, in that content,
Google hones in on for targetting of ads shared on that page. Words in
<title></title>, headers, or bold markup apparently of equal weight to
the 800 word article also shared on the page - and sometimes what is
targetted out of the 800 some words by Adsense is not what I thought
would be.

On the other hand, some people - say with a parenting themed site -
may generate enough click throughs to warrant receiving a check from
Google every other month. Another yet similar parenting theme site of
equal traffic flow may not get a check for 6 months or a year.

What works for one site owner may not have the other site owner doing
backflips - which is why I said that I agreed with Charles and others
in that one will have to try it and see for themself _if_ it works for
them or their site.

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