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samgreen01

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 10:03 am
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I've recently begun trying to "de-windows" myself, and one of the key
things I need in order to break my MSFT habit is a good set of tools
for my web development work.

What I'm looking for is a "braindead" configuration tool for Apache
that will allow me to very easily set up virtual hosts. I could do
this in about 20 seconds with IIS, but I can't seem to find (if it is
there) or figure out how to do it with Apache.

I'm going a little nutty trying to figure out how to just get it to do
what I want, and hopefully some kind soul can point me in the right
direction. I should say, I've been searching for an answer for a few
days now, and am just not having any luck. I think it's a nomenclature
problem - I am just not sure what's what with Linux and Apache and ...
well, everything Smile

Here are the issues I'm running into, and a brief description of my
set-up:

I'm running Fedora Core 2, I did the "gimme everything" install, and I
use the Gnome environment. I've got a small network at home and use a
different machine to view websites on the Linux box.

1: I've made the web root directories in the /var/www/html directory.
So I have /var/www/html/mysite, for example. No problem there. Then I
go to /linuxbox/mysite and I am given a forbidden. So then I change
the permissions on the directory to universal read, and it still
doesn't work - the permissions do not filter down to the files in the
directory! So, how can I get children to inherit parent permissions?
I'm sure it's something simple, but I just can't find it.

2: How do I get it to use a virtual name? Like, my root folder can be
"clientsite01" but I could access it at "/linuxbox/SuperSite" or
something like that?

3: Does the HTTP configuration tool - the graphical tool that Gnome
has - actually do anything? I've used it a dozen times, but every time
I launch it it a) comes up blank, as if it hadn't saved any info from
before and b) doesn't seem to do anything. I'm saving, but it does
nothing that I'm aware of. The help with the tool is less than helpful
to me - there doesn't seem to be any meat. There's a "This is what
this tool is for" bit, and I get it - seems like what I'm looking for,
but it doesn't work. I tell it to save when I exit (and it doesn't
close - just stays there)

4: Is there another configuration tool I can use? I don't know what
they're called. When I google for Apache and configuration and tool or
"Apache configuration tool" or almost any other variation, I get lots
and lots of hits, but I frankly can't make heads or tails of them.

Basically, all I want is something that lets me set everything up from
1 place. I want something that will let me make a new directory in the
/var/www/html directory, set the permissions on it (and have the
documents/sub folders inherit those permissions!) and then set up an
alias for it. Is there anything like this?

Thanks in advance!

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 5:10 pm
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On 2004-08-06, sands <samgreen01.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote:
 > I've recently begun trying to "de-windows" myself
 > What I'm looking for is a "braindead" configuration tool for Apache

If you want really de-windows yourself, switch on your own brain and
forget any 'tool'. Start reading TFM and try to understand what he
says.

 > direction. I should say, I've been searching for an answer for a few
 > days now, and am just not having any luck.

If you did RTFM and something is not clear, ask specifici questions
related to a specific part.

 > the permissions on the directory to universal read, and it still
 > doesn't work - the permissions do not filter down to the files in the
 > directory!

Of course they don't. You need to specify to change the permissions
on the files. The system does what you tell it to do, not what you
want. But this has nothing to do with Apache.

 > 2: How do I get it to use a virtual name?

Change your /etc/hosts file to respond to different hostnames.

 > 3: Does the HTTP configuration tool - the graphical tool that Gnome
 > has - actually do anything?

Ask in a Gnome related group.

 > 4: Is there another configuration tool I can use?

I repeat: use your brain, when you can use that any stupid editor like
vi will do the trick.

Davide

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Fri Aug 06, 2004 5:10 pm
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Davide, most people would have just not bothered responding, rather
than being a total dick about it and providing no useful information
what-so-ever.
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 3:01 am
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Davide, better to be silent and only thought a fool than to reply as you did
and have it proven for the world to see.


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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 3:46 pm
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sands wrote:
 > I've recently begun trying to "de-windows" myself, and one of the key
 > things I need in order to break my MSFT habit is a good set of tools
 > for my web development work.
 >
 > What I'm looking for is a "braindead" configuration tool for Apache
 > that will allow me to very easily set up virtual hosts. I could do
 > this in about 20 seconds with IIS, but I can't seem to find (if it is
 > there) or figure out how to do it with Apache.

While I feel shouting and ranting is not called for, there is something of a
paradox in what you ask. Maybe the most pregnant difference between the
"windows apprach" and the "linux way" of doing things is that the first
indeed aims to be simple to steer, but with often lacking the proper
controls to really get the most bang for your buck of any software, while
linux/unix offers better control of anything you want to do at the price
(most of the times) of having to do a little more brain- and legwork.

I agree with you (if that's what you think) it also is one of the key
reasons why Linux isn't as big as it would have if it chose the hype &
marketing route windows/ms obviously did. And once spoilt with Windows
ease-of-use it takes some adjusting to this different approach. The
developers of Linux software well in many cases feel very at ease with that
do-it-yourself attitude so the urge to create mega-easy superduper graphical
stuff to pull of the tiniest of tasks could be less than astronomical.

So I won't be surprised if there really aren't much braindead tools for what
you want. Maybe you could have a peek at webmin, which comes closest to a
braindead configuration and control center for your entire linux box. If you
use it smartly, you could turn the braindead thing into a true learning
tool. I played a lot with it, had it change stuff and then manually checked
the altered confog files and such and took notes of what happened there.
Thus I learned a bit more of Linux's intricacies. A bit I admit.

Setting up vhosts should not be a big hassle if you ask me by the way. I bet
someone used to it does it in secs. I admit VI is still a nightmare for me
(o holy n00b) and I often resort to pico for quick and dirty work. And even
modify confog files using kwrite now and then...I know I know, need some
adjusting still...

Good luck with that, hopefully webmin helps you... If that's what you really
want.
Regards
Pjotr

PS. There are more secure ways to operate apache on a linux machine than
using the default gimme-everything approach. That too is how I used to do
things on windows, now I am starting to learn configuring and makeing your
specific setup has its merits. Google for securing apache and see there is a
lot to think about.
Lastly, be aware Apache 2 and PHP, should you want that (and many do, to
play & test or for production) isn't advised in a live production
environment. Says who ? Say the folks at PHP. A lot of debate still going on
about that issue btw. See PHP docs.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Sat Aug 07, 2004 3:46 pm
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"Pjotr Wedersteers" <x33159 DeleteThis @westerterp.com> wrote in message news:<4114b2ec$0$566$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>...
 > sands wrote:
  > > I've recently begun trying to "de-windows" myself, and one of the key
  > > things I need in order to break my MSFT habit is a good set of tools
  > > for my web development work.
  > >
  > > What I'm looking for is a "braindead" configuration tool for Apache
  > > that will allow me to very easily set up virtual hosts. I could do
  > > this in about 20 seconds with IIS, but I can't seem to find (if it is
  > > there) or figure out how to do it with Apache.
 >
 > While I feel shouting and ranting is not called for, there is something of a
 > paradox in what you ask. Maybe the most pregnant difference between the
 > "windows apprach" and the "linux way" of doing things is that the first
 > indeed aims to be simple to steer, but with often lacking the proper
 > controls to really get the most bang for your buck of any software, while
 > linux/unix offers better control of anything you want to do at the price
 > (most of the times) of having to do a little more brain- and legwork.
 >
 > I agree with you (if that's what you think) it also is one of the key
 > reasons why Linux isn't as big as it would have if it chose the hype &
 > marketing route windows/ms obviously did. And once spoilt with Windows
 > ease-of-use it takes some adjusting to this different approach. The
 > developers of Linux software well in many cases feel very at ease with that
 > do-it-yourself attitude so the urge to create mega-easy superduper graphical
 > stuff to pull of the tiniest of tasks could be less than astronomical.

For me, and my way of learning, I tend to take things from simplest to
most complex. You're exactly right that the main thing that's been
off-putting to me about making the switch is that I'd basically be in
a new environment where I don't have even the beginning of a clue as
to what's what, and there are no "training wheels" to be used.

With Windows, I started off using the very simple tools, and then, as
I became familiar with the system through necessity, I learned to do
more things - eventually getting to the point where I would just fire
up an editor and write a script to do a bunch of tasks -exactly- how I
wanted to, rather than how Windows thought I should. I expect it will
be the same with Linux, the only difference being that I won't have
that very important (for me) first step of a simple way to get my
bearings.

 > So I won't be surprised if there really aren't much braindead tools for what
 > you want. Maybe you could have a peek at webmin, which comes closest to a
 > braindead configuration and control center for your entire linux box. If you
 > use it smartly, you could turn the braindead thing into a true learning
 > tool. I played a lot with it, had it change stuff and then manually checked
 > the altered confog files and such and took notes of what happened there.
 > Thus I learned a bit more of Linux's intricacies. A bit I admit.

I will look into it - it sounds like exactly what I'm looking for. I
must admit, I feel very much that I'm drowning in choices. I've got 10
different tools on my RHAT menu for configuring my firewall, a dozen
different ways to launch a terminal window it seems - so a 1-stop
place to at least begin to get the hang of configuring this beast
would be a Very Good Thing!

 > Setting up vhosts should not be a big hassle if you ask me by the way. I bet
 > someone used to it does it in secs. I admit VI is still a nightmare for me
 > (o holy n00b) and I often resort to pico for quick and dirty work. And even
 > modify confog files using kwrite now and then...I know I know, need some
 > adjusting still...
 >
 > Good luck with that, hopefully webmin helps you... If that's what you really
 > want.
 > Regards
 > Pjotr

Thank you very much for your comments and information.

 > PS. There are more secure ways to operate apache on a linux machine than
 > using the default gimme-everything approach. That too is how I used to do
 > things on windows, now I am starting to learn configuring and makeing your
 > specific setup has its merits. Google for securing apache and see there is a
 > lot to think about.

I'm sure I'll find that, too, once I get enough of a clue about this
stuff. Right now, I don't want to find myself "in the zone" of
learning and then discover that I don't have the tool I need for
something, and then have to derail my learning about one thing to pick
up another, and so on - so, I asked for all of it.

And yeah, eventually customizing the setup to have exactly what I need
and only what I need will happen, but for right now I'm not even
entirely sure what I need, nor am I even particularly sure how I need
it or even... well, you get the idea Smile

Thanks again for your insight and suggestion, Pjotr!

 > Lastly, be aware Apache 2 and PHP, should you want that (and many do, to
 > play & test or for production) isn't advised in a live production
 > environment. Says who ? Say the folks at PHP. A lot of debate still going on
 > about that issue btw. See PHP docs.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Sun Aug 08, 2004 5:05 am
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sands wrote:
 > "Pjotr Wedersteers" <x33159.DeleteThis@westerterp.com> wrote in message
 > news:<4114b2ec$0$566$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>...
  >> sands wrote:
 > For me, and my way of learning, I tend to take things from simplest to
 > most complex. You're exactly right that the main thing that's been
 > off-putting to me about making the switch is that I'd basically be in
 > a new environment where I don't have even the beginning of a clue as
 > to what's what, and there are no "training wheels" to be used.
 >
 > With Windows, I started off using the very simple tools, and then, as
 > I became familiar with the system through necessity, I learned to do
 > more things - eventually getting to the point where I would just fire
 > up an editor and write a script to do a bunch of tasks -exactly- how I
 > wanted to, rather than how Windows thought I should. I expect it will
 > be the same with Linux, the only difference being that I won't have
 > that very important (for me) first step of a simple way to get my
 > bearings.
 >
  >> So I won't be surprised if there really aren't much braindead tools
  >> for what you want. Maybe you could have a peek at webmin, which
  >> comes closest to a braindead configuration and control center for
  >> your entire linux box. If you use it smartly, you could turn the
  >> braindead thing into a true learning tool. I played a lot with it,
  >> had it change stuff and then manually checked the altered confog
  >> files and such and took notes of what happened there. Thus I learned
  >> a bit more of Linux's intricacies. A bit I admit.
 >
 > I will look into it - it sounds like exactly what I'm looking for. I
 > must admit, I feel very much that I'm drowning in choices. I've got 10
 > different tools on my RHAT menu for configuring my firewall, a dozen
 > different ways to launch a terminal window it seems - so a 1-stop
 > place to at least begin to get the hang of configuring this beast
 > would be a Very Good Thing!
 >
You're not alone! I often feel the same still. And yes I am also familiar wi
th (sometimes) the "typical" techie guru : geez, what are you - a moron and
RTFM replies. Plus the obligatory VI praises I still don't get. But all that
aside, I found a lot of help on several newsgroups for my Linux Endeavours.
And I promised myself I'd never become a "typical" one myself. And sometimes
I fail too. But I try to give people positive feedback at least.

It's true (imho) the more in-depth technical groups of any subject are
somewhat less forgiving when people ask "silly" questions. But that ought
never put you off, it's part of usenet in general and with nerdy topics come
some extra nerdy people too;-) . Try to let it pass. And of course there is
some rationale to their ranting and raving, there are questions that show a
lack of effort on the poster's part.

Webmin indeed can bridge a gap for newbies like u and me. I accept the
laughter that comes with it.

 > Thank you very much for your comments and information.
You're welcome.

 > I'm sure I'll find that, too, once I get enough of a clue about this
 > stuff. Right now, I don't want to find myself "in the zone" of
 > learning and then discover that I don't have the tool I need for
 > something, and then have to derail my learning about one thing to pick
 > up another, and so on - so, I asked for all of it.
 >
 > And yeah, eventually customizing the setup to have exactly what I need
 > and only what I need will happen, but for right now I'm not even
 > entirely sure what I need, nor am I even particularly sure how I need
 > it or even... well, you get the idea Smile
 >
True, a familiar experience again. Luckily if the net has anything in
abundance but racy pr0n it's linux related information. There is so
incredibly much information out there! After losing my tracks many a time I
started finally to bookmark any Linux page I once use and maintain and
reorganize them regularly. I also scout these groups a lot for useful links.
well, nothing new I think. Good working practice that's all.

If you are on RH, is that Fedora or one of the older versions ? I switched
back to SuSe when RH stopped support and security updates for RH9. I am
quite pleased with this distro.

Keep up the good work, good luck!
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:00 pm
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On 6 Aug 2004 11:09:14 -0700, samgreen01.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com (sands) pecked
out:

 >Davide, most people would have just not bothered responding, rather
 >than being a total dick about it and providing no useful information
 >what-so-ever.

Ah well, most people don't know how to use their brain. This "Davide"
person does, couldn't you tell?


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(Msg. 9) Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:09 pm
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On 6 Aug 2004 07:03:31 -0700, samgreen01.DeleteThis@hotmail.com (sands) pecked
out:

 >I've recently begun trying to "de-windows" myself, and one of the key
 >things I need in order to break my MSFT habit is a good set of tools
 >for my web development work.

Yeah!


 >
 >What I'm looking for is a "braindead" configuration tool for Apache
 >that will allow me to very easily set up virtual hosts. I could do
 >this in about 20 seconds with IIS, but I can't seem to find (if it is
 >there) or figure out how to do it with Apache.

I'm honestly suprised there isn't an IIS knockoff. I figured that
someone on the Lindows (Linspire?) team would've done this if not even
one of the KDE folks.

I have been reading the f*&#(@#& manual for weeks now and can't seem
to get my apache server running a named virtual host. (Actually, I've
been at it for very little time, but have been reading the manual,
since I'm messing with MOD_REWRITE while I'm at it.)

I've already googled around a bit and can't find exactly what I need.
I am using SuSE 9.1 Pro and there is a something in YAST that seems to
setup one instance of the HTTPD server, but I can't even get that
working right.

Okay, I wanted to learn C++ and Qt, so I guess I'll begin a
development effort.

What'd y'all think?



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(Msg. 10) Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 5:47 pm
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On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 13:09:20 -0700, filesiteguy <abuse RemoveThis @127.0.0.1>
pecked out:


 >
 >I have been reading the f*&#(@#& manual for weeks now and can't seem
 >to get my apache server running a named virtual host. (Actually, I've
 >been at it for very little time, but have been reading the manual,
 >since I'm messing with MOD_REWRITE while I'm at it.)
 >
 >I've already googled around a bit and can't find exactly what I need.
 >I am using SuSE 9.1 Pro and there is a something in YAST that seems to
 >setup one instance of the HTTPD server, but I can't even get that
 >working right.

Following up on my own post...

....Since I last looked (back in June) Novell released a nice document
on Apache, PHP, and MySQL on SuSE 9.1 Pro.

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/netware/features/a_amp_linux_nw.html" target="_blank">http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/netware/features/a_amp_linux_nw.html</a>

Happy Reading!


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(Msg. 11) Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 6:37 pm
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On Fri, 06 Aug 2004 07:03:31 -0700, sands wrote:

 > I've recently begun trying to "de-windows" myself, and one of the key
 > things I need in order to break my MSFT habit is a good set of tools for
 > my web development work.
 >
 > What I'm looking for is a "braindead" configuration tool for Apache that
 > will allow me to very easily set up virtual hosts. I could do this in
 > about 20 seconds with IIS, but I can't seem to find (if it is there) or
 > figure out how to do it with Apache.
 >
 > I'm going a little nutty trying to figure out how to just get it to do
 > what I want, and hopefully some kind soul can point me in the right
 > direction. I should say, I've been searching for an answer for a few days
 > now, and am just not having any luck. I think it's a nomenclature problem
 > - I am just not sure what's what with Linux and Apache and ... well,
 > everything Smile
 >
 > Here are the issues I'm running into, and a brief description of my
 > set-up:
 >
 > I'm running Fedora Core 2, I did the "gimme everything" install, and I use
 > the Gnome environment. I've got a small network at home and use a
 > different machine to view websites on the Linux box.

Running FC2??

There is a GUI config tool called "system-config-httpd" that works but is
limited/limiting. You will not be able to do detailed configuration of
your httpd server (apache) unless you get in there and start configuring
the actual httpd.conf text file.

But try system-config-httpd first.

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 6:49 pm
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On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 15:37:43 -0400, Jeffrey Silverman wrote:

 > There is a GUI config tool called "system-config-httpd" that works but is
 > limited/limiting. You will not be able to do detailed configuration of
 > your httpd server (apache) unless you get in there and start configuring
 > the actual httpd.conf text file.
 >
 > But try system-config-httpd first.

Ooops! Typical of Linux, or maybe of Fedora Core X, this utility almost
but not quite works out-of-the-box.

There is a bug and a very easy workaround/fix. See the following:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119849" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119849</a>

The fix is as follows:
Additional Comment #14 From Jim Tittsler on 2004-06-05 01:40 -------

One way to eliminate the problem is to remove the '<>' surrounding the
URL on line 10 of /usr/share/system-config-httpd/httpd.conf.xsl




later....

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:13 pm
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Jeffrey Silverman <jeffrey DeleteThis @pantsjhu.edu> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.08.10.19.49.47.923316 DeleteThis @pantsjhu.edu>...
 > On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 15:37:43 -0400, Jeffrey Silverman wrote:
 >
  > > There is a GUI config tool called "system-config-httpd" that works but is
  > > limited/limiting. You will not be able to do detailed configuration of
  > > your httpd server (apache) unless you get in there and start configuring
  > > the actual httpd.conf text file.
  > >
  > > But try system-config-httpd first.
 >
 > Ooops! Typical of Linux, or maybe of Fedora Core X, this utility almost
 > but not quite works out-of-the-box.
 >
 > There is a bug and a very easy workaround/fix. See the following:
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119849</font" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119849</font</a>>
 >
 > The fix is as follows:
 > Additional Comment #14 From Jim Tittsler on 2004-06-05 01:40 -------
 >
 > One way to eliminate the problem is to remove the '<>' surrounding the
 > URL on line 10 of /usr/share/system-config-httpd/httpd.conf.xsl
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > later....


Thanks for the link - that bug was pretty much what I was describing
in the original post, and I think I found the solution in the same
place you did, once I figured out what words to use in my search.

And, along with the newbie references you pointed out, I am well on my
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:15 pm
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Jeffrey Silverman <jeffrey RemoveThis @pantsjhu.edu> wrote in message news:<pan.2004.08.10.19.49.47.923316 RemoveThis @pantsjhu.edu>...
 > On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 15:37:43 -0400, Jeffrey Silverman wrote:
 >
  > > There is a GUI config tool called "system-config-httpd" that works but is
  > > limited/limiting. You will not be able to do detailed configuration of
  > > your httpd server (apache) unless you get in there and start configuring
  > > the actual httpd.conf text file.
  > >
  > > But try system-config-httpd first.
 >
 > Ooops! Typical of Linux, or maybe of Fedora Core X, this utility almost
 > but not quite works out-of-the-box.
 >
 > There is a bug and a very easy workaround/fix. See the following:
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119849</font" target="_blank">https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=119849</font</a>>
 >
 > The fix is as follows:
 > Additional Comment #14 From Jim Tittsler on 2004-06-05 01:40 -------
 >
 > One way to eliminate the problem is to remove the '<>' surrounding the
 > URL on line 10 of /usr/share/system-config-httpd/httpd.conf.xsl
 >
 >
 >
 >
 > later....

When I mentioned the newbie reference, I was referring to the post
below - I've become addled. So no cheers, but still a huzzah, for you!<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2004 4:16 pm
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filesiteguy <abuse DeleteThis @127.0.0.1> wrote in message news:<aggih0hbv1nmcd2eh20cegkmsojp58hosj DeleteThis @4ax.com>...
 > On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 13:09:20 -0700, filesiteguy <abuse DeleteThis @127.0.0.1>
 > pecked out:
 >
 >
  > >
  > >I have been reading the f*&#(@#& manual for weeks now and can't seem
  > >to get my apache server running a named virtual host. (Actually, I've
  > >been at it for very little time, but have been reading the manual,
  > >since I'm messing with MOD_REWRITE while I'm at it.)
  > >
  > >I've already googled around a bit and can't find exactly what I need.
  > >I am using SuSE 9.1 Pro and there is a something in YAST that seems to
  > >setup one instance of the HTTPD server, but I can't even get that
  > >working right.
 >
 > Following up on my own post...
 >
 > ...Since I last looked (back in June) Novell released a nice document
 > on Apache, PHP, and MySQL on SuSE 9.1 Pro.
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/netware/features/a_amp_linux_nw.html</font" target="_blank">http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/netware/features/a_amp_linux_nw.ht...lt;/fon</a>>
 >
 > Happy Reading!
 >
 >
 > kai
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.perfectreign.com" target="_blank">www.perfectreign.com</a> || <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.filesite.org</font" target="_blank">www.filesite.org</font</a>>
 > g2004 at g3prod.cotse.net


Well, making a tool to do it still sounds like an excellent idea - but
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