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kareem114

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:54 pm
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Hi,

after some time of hard work it was impossible to bring my IIS back to life.
My complete OS (XP-Pro) is heavily damaged due a hardware crash. i had
to recover my harddsik from a heavily damaged one over to a new h-disk.
after that "transition" my xp was no more able to run the iis and some other
services like COM Server & Co, like DTC. thats hard for me, because i am
a programmer and i need to run asp & asp.net code on my machine.
i tried everthing, from xp repair to even machine sid exchange.

What i now need is a web server other than iis that can run asp & asp.net
code
and is also able to run isapi apps.

is there such a server available, in best case 4 free...?


Best Regards


Kerem Gümrükcü

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:54 pm
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:54:13 +0200, "Kerem Gümrükcü"
<kareem114.DeleteThis@hotmail.com> wrote:

 >Hi,
 >
 >after some time of hard work it was impossible to bring my IIS back to life.
 >My complete OS (XP-Pro) is heavily damaged due a hardware crash. i had
 >to recover my harddsik from a heavily damaged one over to a new h-disk.
 >after that "transition" my xp was no more able to run the iis and some other
 >services like COM Server & Co, like DTC. thats hard for me, because i am
 >a programmer and i need to run asp & asp.net code on my machine.
 >i tried everthing, from xp repair to even machine sid exchange.
 >
 >What i now need is a web server other than iis that can run asp & asp.net
 >code
 >and is also able to run isapi apps.
 >
 >is there such a server available, in best case 4 free...?

From the sounds of your problems and your need to run specific apps I
would have to recommend IIS6. Not free but stable.

John Cesta

The CPU Checker - Monitors your CPU % while you sleep
LogFileManager - IIS LogFile Management Tool
WebPageChecker - Helps Maintain Server UpTime
DomainReportIt PRO - Helps Rebuild IIS
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 >
 >
 >Best Regards
 >
 >
 >Kerem Gümrükcü
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:54 pm
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"Kerem Gümrükcü" <kareem114 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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 > Hi,
 >
 > after some time of hard work it was impossible to bring my IIS back to
 > life.
 > My complete OS (XP-Pro) is heavily damaged due a hardware crash. i had
 > to recover my harddsik from a heavily damaged one over to a new h-disk.
 > after that "transition" my xp was no more able to run the iis and some
 > other
 > services like COM Server & Co, like DTC. thats hard for me, because i am
 > a programmer and i need to run asp & asp.net code on my machine.
 > i tried everthing, from xp repair to even machine sid exchange.
 >
 > What i now need is a web server other than iis that can run asp & asp.net
 > code
 > and is also able to run isapi apps.
 >
 > is there such a server available, in best case 4 free...?

No. Why not re-install XP?

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 1:54 pm
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Hello,

You will not have any luck finding a server that runs both ASP, ASP.NET
and ISAPI applications. The only one that is able to do all three is IIS.
Cassini can run ASP.NET. XSP can also do that. But they cannot run ASP nor
ISAPI applications. ISAPI is the API of IIS, so you will probably not find
any other server that can do that.

Sun Java System Web Server can host ASP sites.

But I agree with the others, why don't you fix your computer? Your machine
does not seem to "be feeling well", and it would be a good thing to
re-install XP.

Cassini:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.asp.net/Default.aspx?tabindex=6&tabid=41" target="_blank">http://www.asp.net/Default.aspx?tabindex=6&tabid=41</a>

XSP:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.mono-project.com/ASP.NET" target="_blank">http://www.mono-project.com/ASP.NET</a>

Sun Java System Web Server:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.sun.com/software/products/web_srvr/home_web_srvr.xml" target="_blank">http://www.sun.com/software/products/web_srvr/home_web_srvr.xml</a>

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Kerem Gümrükcü wrote:

 > Hi,
 >
 > after some time of hard work it was impossible to bring my IIS back to
life.
 > My complete OS (XP-Pro) is heavily damaged due a hardware crash. i had
 > to recover my harddsik from a heavily damaged one over to a new h-disk.
 > after that "transition" my xp was no more able to run the iis and some
other
 > services like COM Server & Co, like DTC. thats hard for me, because i am
 > a programmer and i need to run asp & asp.net code on my machine.
 > i tried everthing, from xp repair to even machine sid exchange.
 >
 > What i now need is a web server other than iis that can run asp & asp.net
 > code
 > and is also able to run isapi apps.
 >
 > is there such a server available, in best case 4 free...?
 >
 >
 > Best Regards
 >
 >
 > Kerem Gümrükcü<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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kareem114

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:31 pm
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Hi John,

i cant run any microsoft IIS Servers on my machine. my system is higly
corrupted.
i have to run some third party servers available, thats why i ask for some
other
servers...


Best Regards

Kerem Gümrükcü
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:41 pm
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2005 13:54:13 +0200, "Kerem Gümrükcü"
<kareem114 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote:

 >after some time of hard work it was impossible to bring my IIS back to life.
 >My complete OS (XP-Pro) is heavily damaged due a hardware crash. i had
 >to recover my harddsik from a heavily damaged one over to a new h-disk.
 >after that "transition" my xp was no more able to run the iis and some other
 >services like COM Server & Co, like DTC. thats hard for me, because i am
 >a programmer and i need to run asp & asp.net code on my machine.
 >i tried everthing, from xp repair to even machine sid exchange.
 >
 >What i now need is a web server other than iis that can run asp & asp.net
 >code
 >and is also able to run isapi apps.
 >
 >is there such a server available, in best case 4 free...?

Umm... Wouldn't it be smarter to fix the problems you have than
bypass them and hope they don't affect you? Wipe the system and
reinstall XP and IIS. Unless of course you don't happen to have a
legal copy...

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 12:40 am
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Thanx for all the comprehensive answers.

One way or another, i cant just reinstall my os, because there are too many
development tools on my system and a lot of another software where
reinstalling
would cost me approximately four or fife days. it is much better to fix the
problem,
but it seems to be something very deep inside my os, where i asume that it
is something
with my security subsystem.

Again, thanky you very much for all the comprehensive answers...

Best Regards
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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2005 10:14 pm
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I know that a hardware crash hurts productivity.

However, what you are currently doing is even worse. You know things are
corrupted and unstable and you try to overlook it because it will take you
4-5 days to recover. Well, assume you find an alternative -- what happens if
your corrupted computer eventually breaks that system and other data files,
so now it takes you 8-10 days to recover.

You can either bite the bullet now to prevent the future problem, or you can
pray that you never have a future problem. It should be pretty easy to move
your data and source code around -- being a developer, you should have good
control over these files. And reinstalling software packages should not be
hard.

Your choice.

Personally, I would bite the bullet now because Murphy's Law says that the
future problem will happen when you least want it to happen, and then you
will really curse at yourself for delaying this problem.

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"Kerem Gümrükcü" <kareem114.RemoveThis@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Thanx for all the comprehensive answers.

One way or another, i cant just reinstall my os, because there are too many
development tools on my system and a lot of another software where
reinstalling
would cost me approximately four or fife days. it is much better to fix the
problem,
but it seems to be something very deep inside my os, where i asume that it
is something
with my security subsystem.

Again, thanky you very much for all the comprehensive answers...

Best Regards
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(Msg. 9) Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 8:52 am
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Soooo many lies!
Naughty Microsoft zealot!
Naughty boy!

Support
for Apache is NOT a problem. Apache users are never "on their own".

Compatability
Apache runs on more things than you can shake a stick at.

David's points were such typical microsoft marketing lines, I'm amazed
there were no vague threats of legal action against open-source users.
Don't believe the Fear Uncertainty and Doubt, it's a load of hogwash
put out by a company with a product to sell.
Use what works.
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(Msg. 10) Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 8:55 am
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Hi David,

yes, i had a lot of experience in the past with murphy's law(s). My os is
stabilized for now, but the worse thing
is, that i cant run my iis and this makes development very unproductive and
a very long task (compile,
copy to another machine, register etc.). Sooner or later i have to bite the
bullet and build my system from
scratch, i know this...

Our customers run IIS, but this "iis-thing" is too heavily build into the os
and in case of (partial)OS or
component corruption....windows reaches the stage of uselessness as
web-server. Apache or Roxen for instance
are very secure and very stable servers and can be easily reconstructed in
case of system corruption.

I hate to worry...

Best Regards


Kerem Gümrükcü
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(Msg. 11) Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 8:55 am
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Sounds to me like your easiest option is to flatten that machine and start
again, if it's really that badly corrupted, rather than trying to put more
and more apps on an already ropey system.


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"Kerem Gümrükcü" <kareem114 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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 > Hi John,
 >
 > i cant run any microsoft IIS Servers on my machine. my system is higly
 > corrupted.
 > i have to run some third party servers available, thats why i ask for some
 > other
 > servers...
 >
 >
 > Best Regards
 >
 > Kerem Gümrükcü
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(Msg. 12) Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 8:55 am
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Believe me, your comparison of IIS with Apache or Roxen is not comparable.
I'm not trying to be mean/harsh here; I'm just pointing out the facts
bluntly, so pardon me in advance.

1.
IIS is not any more "heavily built into the OS" than Apache. I work on the
IIS team; I know. If you corrupt the right file, Apache or Windows can
become equally as useless. Murphy's Law simply corrupted some set of files
to make you think this is an IIS issue. In general, corruption renders some
part of the system useless. Trying to blame that part of the system for
being corrupted does not seem rational.

2.
Microsoft only supports certain versions of IIS on any given OS because we
test and certify those combinations. The random combinations aren't allowed
nor supported. It is very costly and impractical to support a big OS/IIS
version matrix. And believe it or not, Apache is not much better.

In theory, you can install any version, but in practice, you will find that
certain versions of Apache require certain Linux kernel versions, only the
latest and a few "blessed" builds have appreciable user base to have
community support. If you are not main-stream, you are on your own -- and
Apache is not going to backport security fixes, etc to the older builds --
your only choice is to upgrade to the latest to get everything.

You know what? Microsoft patches actually apply to the older builds and do
not force you to upgrade to get the latest patches, and these combinations
are all supported. And the few "blessed" Apache builds with appreciable user
base is not much different than the few OS/IIS combinations that Microsoft
supports.

In other words, the appearance of choice in Open Source is really no choice
for the masses. IIS has better QFE support than Apache, Microsoft tells you
up front the valid OS/IIS combinations while Apache leaves it up to you to
figure out, and IIS support can get you answers while the Linux crowd would
flame/ignore you. Free choice is one thing, but supportability is something
totally different. Do not confuse the two.

3.
In terms of reliability and security -- go ahead and compare against IIS6
(only fair to look at the latest generation). You will find that IIS6 is
more reliable and has had far fewer security infractions vs Apache. See
Michael Howard's blog http://blogs.msdn.com/michael_howard/ -- it's not
marketing/media blitz -- he keeps a pretty level eye. And it is not just
him -- Gartner and most analysts say the same thing.


So, I suggest that you stop looking through five year old biased lens. The
current world is a very different place. Linux is now the most hacked OS two
years running, and Apache is the most defaced web server along with the most
security vulnerabilities. The news media is biased toward only reporting
"monopoly and security vulnerability" when it comes to Microsoft; it fails
to disclose the dirty laundry in the other products... so you only have a
false sense of security/superiority.

--
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"Kerem Gümrükcü" <kareem114 DeleteThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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Hi David,

yes, i had a lot of experience in the past with murphy's law(s). My os is
stabilized for now, but the worse thing
is, that i cant run my iis and this makes development very unproductive and
a very long task (compile,
copy to another machine, register etc.). Sooner or later i have to bite the
bullet and build my system from
scratch, i know this...

Our customers run IIS, but this "iis-thing" is too heavily build into the os
and in case of (partial)OS or
component corruption....windows reaches the stage of uselessness as
web-server. Apache or Roxen for instance
are very secure and very stable servers and can be easily reconstructed in
case of system corruption.

I hate to worry...

Best Regards


Kerem Gümrükcü
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(Msg. 13) Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 12:55 pm
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On Fri, 29 Apr 2005 09:10:52 +0200, "Kerem Gümrükcü"
<kareem114.TakeThisOut@hotmail.com> wrote:

 >Hi David,
 >
 >yes, i had a lot of experience in the past with murphy's law(s). My os is
 >stabilized for now, but the worse thing
 >is, that i cant run my iis and this makes development very unproductive and
 >a very long task (compile,
 >copy to another machine, register etc.). Sooner or later i have to bite the
 >bullet and build my system from
 >scratch, i know this...
 >
 >Our customers run IIS, but this "iis-thing" is too heavily build into the os
 >and in case of (partial)OS or
 >component corruption....windows reaches the stage of uselessness as
 >web-server. Apache or Roxen for instance
 >are very secure and very stable servers and can be easily reconstructed in
 >case of system corruption.
 >
 >I hate to worry...
 >
 >Best Regards

Well, you have the suggestions and advice, it's your decision if you
don't choose to follow them. While I know you're facing issues one
way or the other, a rebuild will have fewer problems down the road and
fewer frustrations.

If you prefer, you can run Apache, even on Windows, and use the ASP
mod for some ASP compatibility. Personally, I'd rebuild the system,
but I'm not in your shoes, only you can choose what's right for you.

Good luck.

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(Msg. 14) Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 6:31 pm
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Support != Freedom to choose

"Use what works" != Freedom to choose
Compatibility != Compiles without errors

Always keep your eyes open because neither is inherently superior. Just know
where the tradeoffs are and work to maximize benefits while minimizing the
risks.

--
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<nick.p.doyle.DeleteThis@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Soooo many lies!
Naughty Microsoft zealot!
Naughty boy!

Support
for Apache is NOT a problem. Apache users are never "on their own".

Compatability
Apache runs on more things than you can shake a stick at.

David's points were such typical microsoft marketing lines, I'm amazed
there were no vague threats of legal action against open-source users.
Don't believe the Fear Uncertainty and Doubt, it's a load of hogwash
put out by a company with a product to sell.
Use what works.
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2005 6:55 pm
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On 29 Apr 2005 08:52:27 -0700, nick.p.doyle.RemoveThis@gmail.com wrote:

 >Support
 >for Apache is NOT a problem. Apache users are never "on their own".

Obviously never posted a question to an Apache or Linux newsgroup as a
complete newbie... Smile

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