Domain name registers - why such variation?

On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 21:35:46 -0600, Karl Groves wrote:

> robert blake <4444D RemoveThis @yahoo.com> wrote in news:Xns976E1C3A76B3Dghtyu@
> 140.99.99.130:
>
>> most in here swear by godaddy.com
>
> I refuse to use godaddy.com, mostly because I'm not a huge fan of their
> ordering process.
> I want to go to a registrar, buy my domain, enter my nameservers, and be
> done with it. When you order from GoDaddy, they subject you to a half-
> dozen "offer screens" during the ordering process. I find that practice to
> be morally corrupt, and I won't support it.
>
> I like buydomains.com. Higher prices, but their ordering process is worth
> the couple bucks extra.

I myself have only ever used Tera-byte.com

I wouldn't be familiar with how much control other registrars afford you
but Tera-byte gives me all the control I need in managing my domains.

But would anyone care to educate me on private registrations? I don't see
my information showing up in WhoIs.net but somehow out there people have
gotten the information afterall in the past.
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and said:

> Joe <joedinmore.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com.au> wrote in news:MPG.1e610fae3d848d29989693
> @news.aardvark.net.au:
>> ...
>> registering domain names.
>
> most in here swear by godaddy.com

most?

hrmm - I think you'll find a significant number swear /at/ them.

> I have not used them myself ...

I see.

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On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 01:38:56 GMT, Joe <joedinmore DeleteThis @yahoo.com.au> posted
something that included:

>I decided to register a domain name for myself (first time ever), and
>I'm surprised at the fact that there seems to be (in OZ, anyway) a wide
>variation in prices for registering domain names.
>Why is this, and is there any reason why a person would choose to pay
>for any but the cheapest?

Mostly, for the same reason some people pay more for water than
others. If you want fresh clean oats, you have to pay the price. If
you want oats recycled through a horse, they are considerably cheaper.

Some people pay more because they get something that looks like a bill
from an outfit called Domain Registry of America, and they pay it.

I've paid as much as $100 for a .NET domain name from Network
Solutions, and gotten a couple of .US domain names for free. The .US
domain names were a real pain, because the registrar has no motivation
to make changes when they need to be made.

That motivation thing is important. Most domain names are sold below
cost, in order to sell you hosting at the same time. GoDaddy is the
largest hosting company in the world.

Some people buy domain names from me because they can pay with check
or money order, because they use older browsers that don't work with
any of the big registrar's websites and they can call my toll-free
number to buy or manage their domains, or because I offer proxy
registration at no extra charge. Most get their domains from me
because they get hosting from me as well, and if everything comes from
one place, you don't everybody pointing fingers elsewhere, saying "not
MY fault".

A registrar or reseller can screw you over with ease. Few of them
actually try to steal domains from you, but they can (and some do)
prevent you from transferring domains to other registrars through
ineptitude and/or malice. An honest and ethical registrar/reseller
will fix problems caused by their software screwing up, or their
software leading you to screw up.

Enom is probably the best of all major registries, both in software
and in honesty and ethics. GoDaddy is fairly good in honesty and
ethics, and they are a little cheaper, but there are plenty of gotchas
in their promotions, and their software is unintuitive and often
buggy. Resellers, of course, can do no better than their registrar,
and can be worse.

I resell for PublicDomainRegistry, which matches Enom in honesty and
ethics, but their software is only so-so in usability. It's improving
rapidly, though; it was wretched only a year ago.
















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On Sat, 18 Feb 2006 19:08:48 GMT, robert blake <4444D.TakeThisOut@yahoo.com>
posted something that included:
>I see sites offering 'private registrations' that hide your details eg
>name/address.....i also see some registrars who offer the alternate
>'whoisguard' (which hides your details too)

>I wonder about ownership of the url tho.

>Am I correct in thinking that that someone else can be registered as the
>owner of your domain name, but yet somehow you retain the true genuine
>ownership?

No. ICANN requires valid information on the registration. If the
domain is registered to Domains By Proxy, then Domains By Proxy is the
actual owner.

Valuable domain names should never be registered by proxy. The service
is of value primarily for personal websites owned by women who are
afraid of stalking, or by businesses interested in scamming customers.
That's not an indictment of Domains By Proxy (or of me, since I offer
proxy registration, too.) They could go bankrupt. I could walk in
front of a semi. You may find yourself dealing with some scoundrel
that figures you would pay $50 or $100 to regain control of your
domain name. I figure I can trust the executor of my estate, but a
bankruptcy lawyer? Sheesh!





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robert blake <4444D.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> stumbled into news:alt.www.webmaster
and said:

> chuckie72406.DeleteThis@yahoo.com wrote in news:1140231608.812422.144720
> @g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
>
>> Ok im a newbie too. Please explain what bandwith is, and how much I
>> should have.
>
> bandwidth is the amount of bytes of transfer that your host allows per
> month/year.

no, sorry Robert, you just described 'transfer'

bandwidth is how much you can have now, sorry then IYSWIM - it's how much
you can pump out at any given moment. a frequently used analagy is 'pipe
diameter'.

A 64k pipe equates to roughly 20GB / month at a steady rate, however
demand is rarely steady so you'd get lots of complaints trying to run a
hosting service on that.

> bandwidth is not really an issue for most private sites

my experience would agree with you - although this should not be cast in
stone.

>> ...
>> Who Hosts these big websites? Such as Google or Yahoo.
>
> no idea

They are their own hosts

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Does Google Host?
Do the Hosting sites buy the domain names or do they just make a
profit?
Who or what controls the selling of domain names? Is some international
laws about the selling of domains?
Thanks
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On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 08:05:39 GMT, Paul Ding wrote:

> On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 02:57:17 GMT, Who Turned Off The Lights?
> <Lights.RemoveThis@light0987654321.com> posted something that included:
>
>>Paul, I'm curious if it's possible that somewhere a domain registration
>>information CAN be seen and other places it is not?
>
> As you have observed, yes.
>

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Thank you Paul.
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