Domain Trouble

"Tina - AffordableHOST.com" <tpeters.RemoveThis@affordablehost.com> wrote in message
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 > "Notorious Sharif" <sharif.RemoveThis@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
 > news:sEa2b.34647$ev.7922406@twister.nyc.rr.com...
  > > Ok here is the deal,
  > >
  > > I bought my domain onlyonxbox.net from a deadbeat host and now I can't
get
  > > access to it anymore because their site is down. I think they were a
 > godaddy
  > > reseller but now I don't even know which company is controlling the
 > domain.
  > > I can't even transfer it because it is locked. HELP!
 >
 >
 > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://wildwestdomains.com/" target="_blank">http://wildwestdomains.com/</a> is your registrar. They have several ways to
 > contact them, one of which is a toll free number:
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.wildwestdomains.com/support.aspx#</font" target="_blank">http://www.wildwestdomains.com/support.aspx#</font</a>>
 >
 > --Tina


Actually...not a toll free number, but a phone number anyway.

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"Notorious Sharif" <sharif.TakeThisOut@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
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 > Ok here is the deal,
 >
 > I bought my domain onlyonxbox.net from a deadbeat host and now I can't get
 > access to it anymore because their site is down. I think they were a
godaddy
 > reseller but now I don't even know which company is controlling the
domain.
 > I can't even transfer it because it is locked. HELP!

Hi Sharif.

As Bill said, he answered you before on this, and Tina has supplied a phone
number. A good start?

Make a note of this URL:

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.internic.net/whois.html" target="_blank">http://www.internic.net/whois.html</a>

This is from Internic who are the ruling body for top level domains such as
..net

From this whois, you can see who the actual registrar is for a domain. In
many cases domains are registered through resellers, who may look like
registrars but they are not.

For example, Tina, Bill and myself are resellers for registrars, but we are
not registrars ourself.

Make a note of this one:

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.internic.net/alpha.html" target="_blank">http://www.internic.net/alpha.html</a>

This is a list of registrars, actual ones, not resellers. If the company
aint on this list, then they are a reseller. The ultimate control for your
name is the registrar, which as we now know is wildwestdomains.com

Anyway, why did you ever register a name with a company called "wildwest..."
are they a bunch of cowboys!
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"Notorious Sharif" <sharif DeleteThis @nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
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 > Ok here is the deal,
 >
 > I bought my domain onlyonxbox.net from a deadbeat host and now I can't get
 > access to it anymore because their site is down. I think they were a
godaddy
 > reseller but now I don't even know which company is controlling the
domain.
 > I can't even transfer it because it is locked. HELP!
 > --
Told you before Shariif, your domain is registered with wild west domains -
nothing to do with godaddy.

Contact support at wild west if the reseller who sold you has gone down and
explain to them the situation

Are you sure your domain is locked? It is not showing as being registrar
locked! As you are the registrant and the admin etc, etc you should have no
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"Bill Logan" <blogan.TakeThisOut@clear.net.nz> skrev i melding
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 >
 > "Notorious Sharif" <sharif.TakeThisOut@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
 > news:sEa2b.34647$ev.7922406@twister.nyc.rr.com...
  > > Ok here is the deal,
  > >
  > > I bought my domain onlyonxbox.net from a deadbeat host and now I can't
get
  > > access to it anymore because their site is down. I think they were a
 > godaddy
  > > reseller but now I don't even know which company is controlling the
 > domain.
  > > I can't even transfer it because it is locked. HELP!
  > > --
 > Told you before Shariif, your domain is registered with wild west
domains -
 > nothing to do with godaddy.

This is where you've misinterpreted a bit, mr. Logan.
Wild West Domains IS GoDaddy's reseller program.

See it for yourself:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.godaddy.com/" target="_blank">http://www.godaddy.com/</a>
Click on "Reseller Program" at the bottom of the page. Where do you end up?

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On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 02:26:12 GMT, Kim André Akerø <kimandre.TakeThisOut@kaa.no> wrote:

 > "Bill Logan" <blogan.TakeThisOut@clear.net.nz> skrev i melding
 > news:3f494168@clear.net.nz...

  >> Told you before Shariif, your domain is registered with wild west
 > domains -
  >> nothing to do with godaddy.
 >
 > This is where you've misinterpreted a bit, mr. Logan.
 > Wild West Domains IS GoDaddy's reseller program.
 >
 > See it for yourself:
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.godaddy.com/</font" target="_blank">http://www.godaddy.com/</font</a>>
 > Click on "Reseller Program" at the bottom of the page. Where do you end
 > up?

Would you like some Worcestershire sauce with that slice of foot, Mr.
Logan?

Grey

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"GreyWyvern" <sp_bhuisman.TakeThisOut@greywyvern.com_am> wrote in message
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 > On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 02:26:12 GMT, Kim André Akerø <kimandre.TakeThisOut@kaa.no> wrote:
 >
  > > "Bill Logan" <blogan.TakeThisOut@clear.net.nz> skrev i melding
  > > news:3f494168@clear.net.nz...
 >
   > >> Told you before Shariif, your domain is registered with wild west
  > > domains -
   > >> nothing to do with godaddy.
  > >
  > > This is where you've misinterpreted a bit, mr. Logan.
  > > Wild West Domains IS GoDaddy's reseller program.

And you worked that out how? - just because they link to the site?

Have another look and then think about it a bit.

Wild west is a seperate legal entity. Wild west is an accredited registrar
in its own right, just as godaddy is. One is not the reseller of the other.



For the purposes of Sharif, which this thread is about, godaddy has nothing
to do with his domain name. The official sponsoring registrar IS wildwest
which is an independant legal entity with its own staff, offices, phone
numbers etc, etc. Wild west is the people he needs to deal with - not
godaddy!




  > >
  > > See it for yourself:
<font color=green>  > > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.godaddy.com/</font" target="_blank">http://www.godaddy.com/</font</a>>
  > > Click on "Reseller Program" at the bottom of the page. Where do you end
  > > up?
Click on a link on almost any site and you will go somewhere else - no
guarantee where you will end up belongs to the site owner where you cliked
the link.
Does godaddy actually say anywhere - this is OUR reseller programme? Nooo
they dont.
Does wild west say anywhere, we are godaddys reseller programme? Nooooo they
dont!

Why would godaddy spend an awful lot of money to set up a second registrar
when they could just as easily have done it all under one name?

 >
 > Would you like some Worcestershire sauce with that slice of foot, Mr.
 > Logan?
 >
Both of you could probably do with sauce on a slice of that foot - read my
post again.

Then check the facts!
godaddy and wildwest are sister companies - but they are legally two
separate entities.

They are sister companies in that they share certain things - but not
others.

For the purposes of addressing Sharifs enquiry they are very definitely two
separate registrars which means the to get a result Sharif needs to talk to
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On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 19:29:25 +1200, Bill Logan <blogan.TakeThisOut@clear.net.nz> wrote:

 > "GreyWyvern" <sp_bhuisman.TakeThisOut@greywyvern.com_am> wrote in message
 > news:oprufvzle7gk3m3d@news.ican.net...
  >> On Mon, 25 Aug 2003 02:26:12 GMT, Kim André Akerø <kimandre.TakeThisOut@kaa.no>
  >> wrote:
  >>
   >> > "Bill Logan" <blogan.TakeThisOut@clear.net.nz> skrev i melding
   >> > news:3f494168@clear.net.nz...
  >>
   >> >> Told you before Shariif, your domain is registered with wild west
   >> > domains -
   >> >> nothing to do with godaddy.
   >> >
   >> > This is where you've misinterpreted a bit, mr. Logan.
   >> > Wild West Domains IS GoDaddy's reseller program.
 >
 > And you worked that out how? - just because they link to the site?
 >
 > Have another look and then think about it a bit.
 >
 > Wild west is a seperate legal entity. Wild west is an accredited
 > registrar
 > in its own right, just as godaddy is. One is not the reseller of the
 > other.
 >
 > For the purposes of Sharif, which this thread is about, godaddy has
 > nothing
 > to do with his domain name. The official sponsoring registrar IS wildwest
 > which is an independant legal entity with its own staff, offices, phone
 > numbers etc, etc. Wild west is the people he needs to deal with - not
 > godaddy!
 >
   >> > See it for yourself:
<font color=brown>   >> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.godaddy.com/</font" target="_blank">http://www.godaddy.com/</font</a>>
   >> > Click on "Reseller Program" at the bottom of the page. Where do you
  >> end
   >> > up?
 > Click on a link on almost any site and you will go somewhere else - no
 > guarantee where you will end up belongs to the site owner where you
 > cliked
 > the link.
 > Does godaddy actually say anywhere - this is OUR reseller programme? Nooo
 > they dont.
 > Does wild west say anywhere, we are godaddys reseller programme? Nooooo
 > they
 > dont!
 >
 > Why would godaddy spend an awful lot of money to set up a second
 > registrar
 > when they could just as easily have done it all under one name?
 >
  >>
  >> Would you like some Worcestershire sauce with that slice of foot, Mr.
  >> Logan?
  >>
 > Both of you could probably do with sauce on a slice of that foot - read
 > my
 > post again.
 >
 > Then check the facts!
 > godaddy and wildwest are sister companies - but they are legally two
 > separate entities.
 >
 > They are sister companies in that they share certain things - but not
 > others.
 >
 > For the purposes of addressing Sharifs enquiry they are very definitely
 > two
 > separate registrars which means the to get a result Sharif needs to talk
 > to
 > the people at wild west, definitely different people to the ones at
 > godaddy!

Submitted for your approval:
"Both of you could probably do with sauce on a slice of that foot - read my
post again."

Okay.

"wild west domains - nothing to do with godaddy."

hmmm...

"They are sister companies in that they share certain things..."

ahhh...

I understand you loud and clear Bill.


Grey

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Name Server: NS1.sharif.NET NS2.sharif.NET
ICANN Registrar: WILD WEST DOMAINS, INC.
Created: 04-dec-2002
Expires: 04-dec-2003
Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK

Reverse IP: Web server hosts 130 websites

IP Location: United States - Washington Dc - Washington - Cogent Communications


"Bill Logan" <blogan.RemoveThis@clear.net.nz> wrote in message news:3f494168@clear.net.nz...
 >
 > "Notorious Sharif" <sharif.RemoveThis@nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
 > news:sEa2b.34647$ev.7922406@twister.nyc.rr.com...
  > > Ok here is the deal,
  > >
  > > I bought my domain onlyonxbox.net from a deadbeat host and now I can't get
  > > access to it anymore because their site is down. I think they were a
 > godaddy
  > > reseller but now I don't even know which company is controlling the
 > domain.
  > > I can't even transfer it because it is locked. HELP!
  > > --
 > Told you before Shariif, your domain is registered with wild west domains -
 > nothing to do with godaddy.
 >
 > Contact support at wild west if the reseller who sold you has gone down and
 > explain to them the situation
 >
 > Are you sure your domain is locked? It is not showing as being registrar
 > locked! As you are the registrant and the admin etc, etc you should have no
 > problem transferring to another registrar.
 >
 >
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"Lexx" <mysterian_1 RemoveThis @hotmail.com> wrote in message
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 > "Bill Logan" <blogan RemoveThis @clear.net.nz> wrote in message
news:3f494168@clear.net.nz...
  > >
  > > "Notorious Sharif" <sharif RemoveThis @nyc.rr.com> wrote in message
  > > news:sEa2b.34647$ev.7922406@twister.nyc.rr.com...
   > > > Ok here is the deal,
   > > >
   > > > I bought my domain onlyonxbox.net from a deadbeat host and now I can't
get
   > > > access to it anymore because their site is down. I think they were a
  > > godaddy
   > > > reseller but now I don't even know which company is controlling the
  > > domain.
   > > > I can't even transfer it because it is locked. HELP!
   > > > --
  > > Told you before Shariif, your domain is registered with wild west
domains -
  > > nothing to do with godaddy.
  > >
  > > Contact support at wild west if the reseller who sold you has gone down
and
  > > explain to them the situation
  > >
  > > Are you sure your domain is locked? It is not showing as being registrar
  > > locked! As you are the registrant and the admin etc, etc you should have
no
  > > problem transferring to another registrar.
  > >
<top posting fixed - again!>
 > Name Server: NS1.sharif.NET NS2.sharif.NET
 > ICANN Registrar: WILD WEST DOMAINS, INC.
 > Created: 04-dec-2002
 > Expires: 04-dec-2003
 > Status: REGISTRAR-LOCK
 >
 > Reverse IP: Web server hosts 130 websites
 >
 > IP Location: United States - Washington Dc - Washington - Cogent
Communications
 >
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