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blackcat22

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:51 am
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Okay this is only a screenshot because I have not decided yet on using
CSS or Tables for layout etc. :p

The screenshot is in jpg and png format. It also shows the favicon
that will be used.

Pick your preference *grin* :

http://www.blackcat2.com/ddd/designsample.jpg
or
http://www.blackcat2.com/ddd/designsample.png

All comments on the design/logo etc. welcome as well
as thoughts on whether I should use CSS or tables :p


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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:56 am
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Heidi wrote:

 > Okay this is only a screenshot because I have not decided yet on using
 > CSS or Tables for layout etc. :p
 >
 > The screenshot is in jpg and png format. It also shows the favicon
 > that will be used.
 >
 > Pick your preference *grin* :
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.blackcat2.com/ddd/designsample.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.blackcat2.com/ddd/designsample.jpg</font</a>>
 > or
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.blackcat2.com/ddd/designsample.png</font" target="_blank">http://www.blackcat2.com/ddd/designsample.png</font</a>>
 >
 > All comments on the design/logo etc. welcome as well
 > as thoughts on whether I should use CSS or tables :p

Both look the same to me. Look nice.

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:41 am
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Charging up on a white horse Charles Sweeney said:
: Both look the same to me. Look nice.

Smile Thanks Charles and yes both pictures are the same.
I just put them in two formats because someone I sent it to
earlier could not view the .PNG so I changed it to the jpg.


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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 6:42 am
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On Mon, 09 Aug 2004 03:41:59 GMT, Heidi wrote:

 > Charging up on a white horse Charles Sweeney said:
 >: Both look the same to me. Look nice.
 >
 > Smile Thanks Charles and yes both pictures are the same.
 > I just put them in two formats because someone I sent it to
 > earlier could not view the .PNG so I changed it to the jpg.

Don't use png. This new format didn't go anywhere and isn't supported
eberywhere. I think it came out when Unisys claimed jpg infringes on the
lzw copyright that it owns and threatened to sue anyone who uses without an
agreement. It doesn't look they did anything. Reminds me of SCO threats.


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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 10:50 am
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Karim wrote:

 > Don't use png. This new format didn't go anywhere and isn't supported
 > eberywhere.

PNG is by no means "new". It because a W3C recommendation in October 1996
was recognised by the IETF in March 1997 (RFC 2083).

It is supported in IE/win 4+, IE/mac 5+, Opera 3.51+, Safari (all
versions), Mozilla (all versions), Netscape 4.04+, Konqueror (all
versions?), Mosaic 2.7+, NetPositive 2.1+, iCab (all versions?) and many
many more.

PNG support can generally be relied on far more than CSS support and
Javascript.

 > I think it came out when Unisys claimed jpg infringes on the lzw copyright
 > that it owns and threatened to sue anyone who uses without an agreement.

GIF actually, but the advantages of PNG go over and above legal matters.
GIF is limited to 256 colours. PNG isn't -- it can handle 281474976710656
colours. GIF is limited to binary transparency. PNG can theoretically deal
with 65536 levels of transparency. PNG files are usually somewhat smaller
than their GIF counterparts.

 > It doesn't look they did anything. Reminds me of SCO threats.

Actually Unisys were quite successful at the time and managed to get quite
a lot in royalties. However, the patent expired a year or so ago, so it's
not so much of an issue now.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:08 pm
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Heidi <blackcat2 RemoveThis @gmail.com> said:

<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.blackcat2.com/ddd/designsample.jpg</font" target="_blank">http://www.blackcat2.com/ddd/designsample.jpg</font</a>>
 > All comments on the design/logo etc. welcome

'distribution' isn't very clear. looks a bit empty below the top right
links.

 > as well as thoughts on whether I should use CSS or tables :p

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://moreshit.usenetshit.info/heidi/" target="_blank">http://moreshit.usenetshit.info/heidi/</a>

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:08 pm
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On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 09:08:11 +1000, brucie <shit.RemoveThis@usenetshit.info> wrote:

  >> as well as thoughts on whether I should use CSS or tables :p
 >
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://moreshit.usenetshit.info/heidi/</font" target="_blank">http://moreshit.usenetshit.info/heidi/</font</a>>

I couldn't've said it better myself. Smile *Applause*

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:08 pm
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Charging up on a white horse brucie said:
: 'distribution' isn't very clear. looks a bit empty below the top right
: links.

Yeah I know it isn't very clear but the site owner likes it that way...
and it is empty because they need to fill it with their content...


: : as well as thoughts on whether I should use CSS or tables :p
:
: http://moreshit.usenetshit.info/heidi/

Thank you brucie, that looks very nice. Does it work in all browsers?
I have to ask... Smile

I also put the directions there like 'footer stuff goes here' for the owner
of the website in question to give them some direction when they are looking
in the source code.


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(Msg. 9) Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 12:08 pm
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Charging up on a white horse GreyWyvern said:
: I couldn't've said it better myself. Smile *Applause*
:
: Grey

Hmm Grey likes it so it must be good... Smile


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(Msg. 10) Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 5:00 pm
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Heidi <blackcat2 RemoveThis @gmail.com> said:

<font color=purple> >: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://moreshit.usenetshit.info/heidi/</font" target="_blank">http://moreshit.usenetshit.info/heidi/</font</a>>

 > Thank you brucie, that looks very nice. Does it work in all browsers?

as long as they support HTML, not all browser do.

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(Msg. 11) Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 5:24 pm
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Heidi <blackcat2.DeleteThis@gmail.com> said:

 >: I couldn't've said it better myself. Smile *Applause*

 > Hmm Grey likes it so it must be good... Smile

grey will say anything for $20. you wouldn't believe what he'll do for
$100!

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(Msg. 12) Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2004 5:24 pm
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On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 14:24:17 +1000, brucie <shit.RemoveThis@usenetshit.info> wrote:

 > in post: <news:EqCRc.9097$KZ2.6178@fe2.texas.rr.com>
 > Heidi <blackcat2.RemoveThis@gmail.com> said:
 >
  >> : I couldn't've said it better myself. Smile *Applause*
 >
  >> Hmm Grey likes it so it must be good... Smile
 >
 > grey will say anything for $20. you wouldn't believe what he'll do for
 > $100!

Now that you've told everyone, my price is $150 now >Sad

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(Msg. 13) Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 2:59 am
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Heidi wrote in message <5qCRc.9096$KZ2.5973@fe2.texas.rr.com>...
 >
 >Does it work in all browsers?
 >I have to ask... Smile

Hello Heidi,
This is what it looks like in IE4.
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.youcanweb.net/heidi1.gif" target="_blank">http://www.youcanweb.net/heidi1.gif</a>
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(Msg. 14) Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:36 am
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*Tante Lina* wrote:
 > Heidi wrote in message <5qCRc.9096$KZ2.5973@fe2.texas.rr.com>...
  >>
  >> Does it work in all browsers?
  >> I have to ask... Smile
 >
 > Hello Heidi,
 > This is what it looks like in IE4.
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.youcanweb.net/heidi1.gif</font" target="_blank">http://www.youcanweb.net/heidi1.gif</font</a>>
 > Cheers,
 > Tante Lina

Then of course there's IE3...
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.andrewu.co.uk/pix/miscellaneous/heidi_dragonfly.png" target="_blank">http://www.andrewu.co.uk/pix/miscellaneous/heidi_dragonfly.png</a>
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(Msg. 15) Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2004 4:36 am
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Andrew Urquhart wrote:

 > Then of course there's IE3...
<font color=purple> > <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.andrewu.co.uk/pix/miscellaneous/heidi_dragonfly.png</font" target="_blank">http://www.andrewu.co.uk/pix/miscellaneous/heidi_dragonfly.png</font</a>>

Not forgetting IE2:

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.charlessweeney.com/images/dragonfly_design.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.charlessweeney.com/images/dragonfly_design.jpg</a>

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