Data Mining

Brian S. Shickle wrote:
 > What's this company Intelliseek all about?

more info needed - URL perhaps?

 > Exactly what data are they mining from me anyway?

what do they ask for?

 > Is it just an annoyance or is it something I should be concerned
 > about?

?

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian S. Shickle" <>
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Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 2:44 PM
Subject: Data Mining


 >
 > What's this company Intelliseek all about?
 > Exactly what data are they mining from me anyway?
 > Is it just an annoyance or is it something I should be concerned about?
 >
 >

They are checking your website(s) for copyright infingement.
Charging their 3rd party customers a fee and using your bandwidth.
Failing in the process to share the profits with you for either your
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Brian S. Shickle wrote:
 > What's this company Intelliseek all about?
 > Exactly what data are they mining from me anyway?
 > Is it just an annoyance or is it something I should be concerned
 > about?

What prompted you to ask this? is it a bot? Can you send me the line in
your log files that show their presence?
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"Disco" <discooctopus.RemoveThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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 > Brian S. Shickle wrote:
  > > What's this company Intelliseek all about?
  > > Exactly what data are they mining from me anyway?
  > > Is it just an annoyance or is it something I should be concerned
  > > about?
 >
 > What prompted you to ask this? is it a bot? Can you send me the line in
 > your log files that show their presence?
 > Thnks
 >

Intelliseek - Shows up as a user agent
Associated with this ip - 64.158.138.48
22 hits today.

These stats are from webalizer I couldn't
find them in the raw stats. Actually
it looks like I can't even access my raw stats
I wonder how long that't been going on.
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In article <YNKeb.12958$q71.92@twister.nyc.rr.com>, Brian S. Shickle wrote:
 >
 > "Disco" <discooctopus.DeleteThis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
 > news:jnKeb.81$_84.5139@news.optus.net.au...
  >> Brian S. Shickle wrote:
   >> > What's this company Intelliseek all about?
   >> > Exactly what data are they mining from me anyway?
   >> > Is it just an annoyance or is it something I should be concerned
   >> > about?
  >>
  >> What prompted you to ask this? is it a bot? Can you send me the line in
  >> your log files that show their presence?
  >> Thnks
  >>
 >
 > Intelliseek - Shows up as a user agent
 > Associated with this ip - 64.158.138.48
 > 22 hits today.

That can just represent one page.

 > These stats are from webalizer I couldn't
 > find them in the raw stats. Actually
 > it looks like I can't even access my raw stats
 > I wonder how long that't been going on.
 > I'll have to check into that.

Just a curiosity question: Why is this important?

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"see above" <no_user RemoveThis @no_particular_domain.com> wrote in message
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 >
  > > These stats are from webalizer I couldn't
  > > find them in the raw stats. Actually
  > > it looks like I can't even access my raw stats
  > > I wonder how long that't been going on.
  > > I'll have to check into that.
 >
 > Just a curiosity question: Why is this important?
 >

Why would you want to expend bandwidth and server resources to deliver pages
to a service that does zero for you? That's why.

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In article <mjmdnax8hrrWBOaiXTWJig.RemoveThis@comcast.com>, McWebber wrote:
 > "see above" <no_user.RemoveThis@no_particular_domain.com> wrote in message
 > news:slrnbnn5lm.onn.no_user@localhost.localdomain...
  >>
   >> > These stats are from webalizer I couldn't
   >> > find them in the raw stats. Actually
   >> > it looks like I can't even access my raw stats
   >> > I wonder how long that't been going on.
   >> > I'll have to check into that.
  >>
  >> Just a curiosity question: Why is this important?
  >>
 >
 > Why would you want to expend bandwidth and server resources to deliver pages
 > to a service that does zero for you? That's why.

He has 22 more hits than he did yesterday...maybe he can charge more for
advertising. Otherwise, password protect your site or exclude through the
..htaccess

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"see above" <no_user DeleteThis @no_particular_domain.com> wrote in message
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 > In article <mjmdnax8hrrWBOaiXTWJig DeleteThis @comcast.com>, McWebber wrote:
  > > "see above" <no_user DeleteThis @no_particular_domain.com> wrote in message
  > > news:slrnbnn5lm.onn.no_user@localhost.localdomain...
   > >>
   > >> > These stats are from webalizer I couldn't
   > >> > find them in the raw stats. Actually
   > >> > it looks like I can't even access my raw stats
   > >> > I wonder how long that't been going on.
   > >> > I'll have to check into that.
   > >>
   > >> Just a curiosity question: Why is this important?
   > >>
  > >
  > > Why would you want to expend bandwidth and server resources to deliver
pages
  > > to a service that does zero for you? That's why.
 >
 > He has 22 more hits than he did yesterday...maybe he can charge more for
 > advertising. Otherwise, password protect your site or exclude through the
 > .htaccess

ROFL now there's a clueless answer. Hits. Wow.

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"see above" <no_user.DeleteThis@no_particular_domain.com> wrote in message
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 >
 > Just a curiosity question: Why is this important?
 >
 > kb

I'm not sure if it is important. That's why I asked.
I want(ed) to know what they are mining for.
I think it's a little more than trademark infringement
that was suggested earlier, but who knows.
I sent them an email but guess what? No reply.
Surprise, Surprise.

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"Brian S. Shickle" <bshickle DeleteThis @hvc.rr.com> wrote in message
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 >
 > What's this company Intelliseek all about?
 > Exactly what data are they mining from me anyway?
 > Is it just an annoyance or is it something I should be concerned about?

Here's an excerpt from the email I got from them...
==============================
Brian,

 > Why do I see your brand name in my refferer logs?...

Intelliseek has a crawler that explores the web. Our crawler not only
crawls at a leisurely rate so as not to impact site performance, but it
adheres to the robots exclusion protocol, avoiding any public sites which
prohibit crawlers.

 > And how come you don't include a URL for your bot like google does?

We do. It will show up as follows in your site logs:

"GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 876 "-" "Mozilla/4.7 (compatible; Intelliseek;
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.intelliseek.com" target="_blank">http://www.intelliseek.com</a>)"

We also specify an email address (crawler@intelliseek.com) in the From
header so webmasters know how to contact us with questions.

Please don't hesitate to contact us if you have any further concerns.

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"Brian S. Shickle" <bshickle.RemoveThis@hvc.rr.com> wrote in message
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 >
 >
 > We also specify an email address (crawler@intelliseek.com) in the From
 > header so webmasters know how to contact us with questions.
 >


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