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tim

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 4:55 am
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Is there a quick convenient way to translate DNS numbers, 234.123.567.1 and
the like, into www.whatever.com?

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 4:55 am
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Using a pointed stick and some pebbles, tim scraped this into the dirt:

 > Is there a quick convenient way to translate DNS numbers, 234.123.567.1 and
<font color=purple> > the like, into <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.whatever.com?</font" target="_blank">www.whatever.com?</font</a>>

No. They don't translate that way reliably. The problem, in this
context, is that one IP number may have many hundreds of Websites
attached to it, and so would give you the same many hundreds of domain
names as a result. You can reliably do it the other way though.

ie:
IP number -> Domain name
one -> Many

whereas:
Domain name -> IP number
one -> one

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 4:55 am
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"tim" <tim.RemoveThis@3734.net> wrote in message
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 > Is there a quick convenient way to translate DNS numbers, 234.123.567.1
 > and
<font color=purple> > the like, into <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.whatever.com?</font" target="_blank">www.whatever.com?</font</a>>


Try samspade.org

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 5:24 am
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On Mon, 23 May 2005, tim wrote:

 > Is there a quick convenient way to translate DNS numbers, 234.123.567.1 and
<font color=purple> > the like, into <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.whatever.com?</font" target="_blank">www.whatever.com?</font</a>>

Well, ignoring the fact that 234.123.567.1 is invalid (255 is the maximum
for any octet), there are a number of ways you can get *a* domain name if
a reverse DNS (abbr: rDNS) record has been created for that IP address.
However, if fifty domains are hosted on the same machine, you can usually
only get *one* of them.

1. Go to "SamSpade.org Tools" at:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://samspade.org/t/" target="_blank">http://samspade.org/t/</a>
and enter the IP address in the top field. You'll get a hostname
if rDNS has been configured for that IP address. An example lookup
made some time ago:

<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://samspade.org/t/lookat?a=24.71.223.147" target="_blank">http://samspade.org/t/lookat?a=24.71.223.147</a>

: whois
:
: Whois: ______________________________
: @whois. [Magic...............]
: Whois
:
: Server Used: [ whois.arin.net ]
: [1] 24.71.223.147 = [ [2] px6so.cg.shawcable.net ]
^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
IP address hostname
:
: OrgName: Shaw Communications Inc.
[snip whois info]

2. Download Sam Spade for Windows and use that. See:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://samspade.org/ssw/" target="_blank">http://samspade.org/ssw/</a>

3. Try:

nslookup 234.123.567.1

and see if you get lucky. Your version of nslookup may not be able
to look up IP addresses directly.

4. Reverse the byte order of the IP address and tack on ".in-addr.arpa"
("234.123.567.1" becomes "1.567.123.234.in-addr.arpa" for example)
and use that with nslookup:

nslookup 1.567.123.234.in-addr.arpa

5. There are other things you can try. Quoting from
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://samspade.org/d/ipdns.html" target="_blank">http://samspade.org/d/ipdns.html</a> (well worth reading in its entirety):

[snip]
: Reverse lookup
:
: Finding the hostname given the IP address is very useful. If
: you're tracing spam you need the domainname to be able to find
: whois information.
:
: So you just need to do an 'nslookup w.x.y.z', right?
:
: D:\>nslookup 199.170.88.39
: Server: penfold
: Address: 192.168.1.1
:
: Name: www-01.io.com
: Address: 199.170.88.39
:
: Sometimes yes...
:
: D:\>nslookup 151.196.75.10
: Server: penfold
: Address: 192.168.1.1
:
: *** penfold can't find 151.196.75.10: Non-existent domain
:
: Sometimes no...
:
: Just because a host has forward DNS from name to address
: there's no guarantee or requirement for it to have reverse DNS
: from address to name. Many sites do, many sites don't.
:
: [Note: Some nslookups don't accept reverse lookup on the
: command line. If you get caught with a braindead tool and need
: to do a reverse lookup you can do this: nslookup
: z.y.x.w.in-addr.arpa will do a reverse DNS lookup for address
: w.x.y.z. Don't ask...]
:
: If there's no reverse DNS you need to resort to guerrilla
: approaches. If there's a web site that's a good bet. Do a view
: source to look at the HTML source, particularly for forms and
: mailto links.
:
: Sometimes telnetting to the machine will give a banner
: identifying the machine. Or telnetting to other ports on the
: machine (25, 110, 119) can sometimes give a banner. Then you
: can use forward DNS to confirm that the address maps back to
: the right IP.
:
: A port-scan tool can scan a range of ports on a machine, to see
: which are providing services. Then you can telnet to each one
: in turn to see if any leak information.
:
: What if the site is being coy, and trying to hide their
: domainname? Most virtual web-hosting companies require
: customers to have a domain name, but if it's not used anywhere
: and the website is advertised using it's IP address rather than
: domain name it's hard to find.
:
: On some virtual web servers accessing <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://w.x.y.z/stats" target="_blank">http://w.x.y.z/stats</a> or
: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://w.x.y.z/logs" target="_blank">http://w.x.y.z/logs</a> triggers a redirect that can give you the
: name.
[snip]

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 9:55 am
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tim <tim.DeleteThis@3734.net> wrote in
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 > Is there a quick convenient way to translate DNS numbers,
<font color=purple> > 234.123.567.1 and the like, into <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.whatever.com?</font" target="_blank">www.whatever.com?</font</a>>

IP is fairly physical and the plain language is what its called. Think of
it as phone number to persons name, or street address being referred to as
John's House. They arent really built off of each other. And the plain
language one is much more flexible than the IP address. All you can do is
ask the system "who is at this address".

Also keep in mind that just like phone numbers and street addresses, many
plain language names might return that same phone # or address. But looking
up that number tends to give back only one of the responses. Same with IPs.
Many domains might be there but looking up the IP gives back one answer.

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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon May 23, 2005 12:55 pm
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Dylan Parry wrote:

 > whereas:
 > Domain name -> IP number
 > one -> one

The latter can be one -> Many.

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 2:55 am
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Dylan Parry <usenet RemoveThis @dylanparry.com> wrote:
 >Using a pointed stick and some pebbles, tim scraped this into the dirt:
 >
  >> Is there a quick convenient way to translate DNS numbers, 234.123.567.1 and
<font color=green>  >> the like, into <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.whatever.com?</font" target="_blank">www.whatever.com?</font</a>>
 >
 >No. They don't translate that way reliably. The problem, in this
 >context, is that one IP number may have many hundreds of Websites
 >attached to it, and so would give you the same many hundreds of domain
 >names as a result.

An IP number also may not translate into a domain name because there
are neither PTR records for that IP nor A records mapping some domain
name to the IP. Do not expect that all IPs can be identified by *any*
domain name.

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Tue May 24, 2005 4:55 am
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tim wrote:

 > Is there a quick convenient way to translate DNS numbers, 234.123.567.1 and
<font color=purple> > the like, into <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.whatever.com?</font" target="_blank">www.whatever.com?</font</a>>

Yes. It's called the Domain Name System.

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