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andy1

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Since: Aug 25, 2003
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 1:29 am Post subject: DNS Archived from groups: alt>www>webmaster (more info?)

Hi Can anyone confirm if its normal for a domain not to resolve all around the world within 6 days?? the DNS info was changed in the Uk on teh 24th of Sept, and I am trying to get access to FTP to my servers which are in Australia but I cant even get mail via POP3 and sam spade says I do not have a DNS even though a whois at nominet confirms they are changed.......any advice appreciated. Thanks in advance Regards Andy T -- For users by users - BY-users group <http://www.by-users.co.uk> >> Stay informed about: DNS

mcwebber

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 1:29 am Post subject: Re: DNS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Andy T" <andy RemoveThis @westmidland-internet.co.uk> wrote in message news:iv0knv4p05top10rn0i2kccmddmbd9cb6b@4ax.com... > Hi > > Can anyone confirm if its normal for a domain not to resolve all > around the world within 6 days?? Not really. > > the DNS info was changed in the Uk on teh 24th of Sept, and I am > trying to get access to FTP to my servers which are in Australia but I > cant even get mail via POP3 and sam spade says I do not have a DNS > even though a whois at nominet confirms they are changed.......any > advice appreciated. Whois != DNS -- McWebber No email replies read If someone tells you to forward an email to all your friends please forget that I'm your friend.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: DNS

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 1:29 am Post subject: Re: DNS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

Andy wrote: > Hi > Can anyone confirm if its normal for a domain not to resolve all > around the world within 6 days?? Very possible. Depends on who your registrar is. > the DNS info was changed in the Uk on teh 24th of Sept, and I am > trying to get access to FTP to my servers which are in Australia but I > cant even get mail via POP3 and sam spade says I do not have a DNS > even though a whois at nominet confirms they are changed.......any > advice appreciated. The whois only shows that the domain name is registered. Nothing more. Question really is, are the name servers your domain on properly registered with the master system? A long shot is, your domain is "locked" and your host needs to "unlock" it. > Thanks in advance > Regards Andy T > -- > For users by users - BY-users group > <http://www.by-users.co.uk><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: DNS

andy1

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Since: Aug 25, 2003
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 3:18 am Post subject: Re: DNS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 20:02:31 -0400, "McWebber" <mcwebber.DeleteThis@my-deja.com> wrote: >"Andy T" <andy.DeleteThis@westmidland-internet.co.uk> wrote in message >news:iv0knv4p05top10rn0i2kccmddmbd9cb6b@4ax.com... >> Hi >> >> Can anyone confirm if its normal for a domain not to resolve all >> around the world within 6 days?? > >Not really. Thanks > >> >> the DNS info was changed in the Uk on teh 24th of Sept, and I am >> trying to get access to FTP to my servers which are in Australia but I >> cant even get mail via POP3 and sam spade says I do not have a DNS >> even though a whois at nominet confirms they are changed.......any >> advice appreciated. > >Whois != DNS Can you expand a little. my domain is <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.8thrallycross.co.uk" target="_blank">www.8thrallycross.co.uk</a> and whois shows the right DNS BUT I still cant FTP to the site OR get mail from my server! This is 6 days after the DNS was changed. Any one any more ideas please?? Regards Andy T -- For users by users - BY-users group <http://www.by-users.co.uk><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: DNS

mcwebber

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 3:18 am Post subject: Re: DNS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Andy T" <andy.RemoveThis@westmidland-internet.co.uk> wrote in message news:2f7knvoo1i06235auj99n6p9srhjb877gb@4ax.com... > > > >> > >> the DNS info was changed in the Uk on teh 24th of Sept, and I am > >> trying to get access to FTP to my servers which are in Australia but I > >> cant even get mail via POP3 and sam spade says I do not have a DNS > >> even though a whois at nominet confirms they are changed.......any > >> advice appreciated. > > > >Whois != DNS > > Can you expand a little. > > my domain is <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.8thrallycross.co.uk" target="_blank">www.8thrallycross.co.uk</a> and whois shows the right DNS BUT > I still cant FTP to the site OR get mail from my server! This is 6 > days after the DNS was changed. Something is royally screwed up in your DNS. You have two different nameservers each saying the other is authoritative for your domain. 8thrallycross.co.uk It's like an endless loop. --- DNS lookup for "8thrallycross.co.uk", please wait... --- contacting nameserver: a.gtld-servers.net [192.5.6.30] --- Found authoritative nameserver: c.root-servers.net --- contacting nameserver: c.root-servers.net [192.33.4.12] --- Found authoritative nameserver: NS1.NIC.uk --- contacting nameserver: ns1.nic.uk [195.66.240.130] --- Found authoritative nameserver: ns3.mywebworx.com --- contacting nameserver: ns3.mywebworx.com [69.61.24.8] --- Found authoritative nameserver: ns3.mywebworx.com --- Found authoritative nameserver: ns4.mywebworx.com --- contacting nameserver: ns4.mywebworx.com [69.61.24.9] --- Found authoritative nameserver: ns4.mywebworx.com --- Found authoritative nameserver: ns4.mywebworx.com --- Found authoritative nameserver: ns3.mywebworx.com --- contacting nameserver: ns3.mywebworx.com [69.61.24.8] --- Found authoritative nameserver: ns3.mywebworx.com --- Found authoritative nameserver: ns4.mywebworx.com --- contacting nameserver: ns4.mywebworx.com [69.61.24.9] --- Found authoritative nameserver: ns3.mywebworx.com --- contacting nameserver: ns3.mywebworx.com [69.61.24.8] --- Found authoritative nameserver: ns4.mywebworx.com --- contacting nameserver: ns4.mywebworx.com [69.61.24.9] --- Found authoritative nameserver: ns4.mywebworx.com It must look like a DDOS in the logs. Better talk to whoever is controlling your DNS. -- McWebber No email replies read If someone tells you to forward an email to all your friends please forget that I'm your friend.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: DNS

andy1

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Since: Aug 25, 2003
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 10:52 am Post subject: Re: DNS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:03:29 -0400, "McWebber" <mcwebber DeleteThis @my-deja.com> wrote: >"Andy T" <andy DeleteThis @westmidland-internet.co.uk> wrote in message >news:2f7knvoo1i06235auj99n6p9srhjb877gb@4ax.com... >> > >> >> >> >> the DNS info was changed in the Uk on teh 24th of Sept, and I am >> >> trying to get access to FTP to my servers which are in Australia but I >> >> cant even get mail via POP3 and sam spade says I do not have a DNS >> >> even though a whois at nominet confirms they are changed.......any >> >> advice appreciated. >> > >> >Whois != DNS >> >> Can you expand a little. >> >> my domain is <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.8thrallycross.co.uk" target="_blank">www.8thrallycross.co.uk</a> and whois shows the right DNS BUT >> I still cant FTP to the site OR get mail from my server! This is 6 >> days after the DNS was changed. > >Something is royally screwed up in your DNS. You have two different >nameservers each saying the other is authoritative for your domain. >8thrallycross.co.uk > >It's like an endless loop. what tools or site did you use to perform the look up I cant even get that much out of sam spade?? > >--- DNS lookup for "8thrallycross.co.uk", please wait... >--- contacting nameserver: a.gtld-servers.net [192.5.6.30] >--- Found authoritative nameserver: c.root-servers.net >--- contacting nameserver: c.root-servers.net [192.33.4.12] >--- Found authoritative nameserver: NS1.NIC.uk >--- contacting nameserver: ns1.nic.uk [195.66.240.130] >--- Found authoritative nameserver: ns3.mywebworx.com >--- contacting nameserver: ns3.mywebworx.com [69.61.24.8] >--- Found authoritative nameserver: ns3.mywebworx.com >--- Found authoritative nameserver: ns4.mywebworx.com >--- contacting nameserver: ns4.mywebworx.com [69.61.24.9] >--- Found authoritative nameserver: ns4.mywebworx.com >--- Found authoritative nameserver: ns4.mywebworx.com >--- Found authoritative nameserver: ns3.mywebworx.com >--- contacting nameserver: ns3.mywebworx.com [69.61.24.8] >--- Found authoritative nameserver: ns3.mywebworx.com >--- Found authoritative nameserver: ns4.mywebworx.com >--- contacting nameserver: ns4.mywebworx.com [69.61.24.9] >--- Found authoritative nameserver: ns3.mywebworx.com >--- contacting nameserver: ns3.mywebworx.com [69.61.24.8] >--- Found authoritative nameserver: ns4.mywebworx.com >--- contacting nameserver: ns4.mywebworx.com [69.61.24.9] >--- Found authoritative nameserver: ns4.mywebworx.com > >It must look like a DDOS in the logs. Mmm whats a ddos please. Be careful with me I am trying to learn this stuff so I can stop asking silly questions > >Better talk to whoever is controlling your DNS. That would be who holds the IPS its tagged with I assume? 123-reg.co.uk would be the culprits then>>>? Thanks in advance Regards Andy T -- For users by users - BY-users group <http://www.by-users.co.uk><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: DNS

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(Msg. 7) Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 10:52 am Post subject: Re: DNS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

"Andy T" <andy RemoveThis @westmidland-internet.co.uk> wrote in message news:r02lnvk6mehlbkpauumpldgq1nv0r5ocv7@4ax.com... > > > what tools or site did you use to perform the look up I cant even get > that much out of sam spade?? NetDemon <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.netdemon.net/" target="_blank">http://www.netdemon.net/</a> > >It must look like a DDOS in the logs. > > > Mmm whats a ddos please. Be careful with me I am trying to learn this > stuff so I can stop asking silly questions Distributed Denial Of Service. -- McWebber No email replies read If someone tells you to forward an email to all your friends please forget that I'm your friend.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: DNS

andy1

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(Msg. 8) Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 11:14 am Post subject: Re: DNS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Tue, 30 Sep 2003 21:03:29 -0400, "McWebber" <mcwebber.DeleteThis@my-deja.com> wrote: >"Andy T" <andy.DeleteThis@westmidland-internet.co.uk> wrote in message >news:2f7knvoo1i06235auj99n6p9srhjb877gb@4ax.com... >> > >> >> >> >> the DNS info was changed in the Uk on teh 24th of Sept, and I am >> >> trying to get access to FTP to my servers which are in Australia but I >> >> cant even get mail via POP3 and sam spade says I do not have a DNS >> >> even though a whois at nominet confirms they are changed.......any >> >> advice appreciated. >> > >> >Whois != DNS >> >> Can you expand a little. >> >> my domain is <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.8thrallycross.co.uk" target="_blank">www.8thrallycross.co.uk</a> and whois shows the right DNS BUT >> I still cant FTP to the site OR get mail from my server! This is 6 >> days after the DNS was changed. > >Something is royally screwed up in your DNS. You have two different >nameservers each saying the other is authoritative for your domain. >8thrallycross.co.uk Ok so NOW the secondary IP for ns4.mywebworx.com at <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://195.66.240.211/cgi-bin/whois.cgi?query=8thrallycross.co.uk" target="_blank">http://195.66.240.211/cgi-bin/whois.cgi?query=8thrallycross.co.uk</a> shows this ************************************ Domain Name: 8thrallycross.co.uk Registrant: Andy Taylor Registrant's Address: THE REGISTRANT IS AN INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS ELECTED TO HAVE THEIR ADDRESS OMITTED FROM THE WHOIS DATABASE Registrant's Agent: Host Europe Internet Limited [Tag = HOSTEUROPE] URL: <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.webfusion.co.uk" target="_blank">http://www.webfusion.co.uk</a> Relevant Dates: Registered on: 09-Sep-2003 Renewal Date: 09-Sep-2005 Last updated: 30-Sep-2003 Registration Status: Registration request being processed Name servers listed in order: ns3.mywebworx.com 69.61.24.8 ns4.mywebworx.com 139.81.139.131 WHOIS database last updated at 09:05:02 01-Oct-2003 **************************************** and that is the WRONG IP that should be 69.61.24.9 and NOT 139.81.139.131 who the * is holding the wrong information. I had exactly the same problem with another domain I have hosted at the same place 3 weeks ago AND its also got a HOSTEUROPE tag as well just like 8th rallycross has............just who is at fault.......anyone know please?? why are you getting differing information to be by the way?? > >It's like an endless loop. > >--- DNS lookup for "8thrallycross.co.uk", please wait... >--- contacting nameserver: a.gtld-servers.net [192.5.6.30] >--- Found authoritative nameserver: c.root-servers.net >--- contacting nameserver: c.root-servers.net [192.33.4.12] >--- Found authoritative nameserver: NS1.NIC.uk >--- contacting nameserver: ns1.nic.uk [195.66.240.130] >--- Found authoritative nameserver: ns3.mywebworx.com >--- contacting nameserver: ns3.mywebworx.com [69.61.24.8] >--- Found authoritative nameserver: ns3.mywebworx.com >--- Found authoritative nameserver: ns4.mywebworx.com >--- contacting nameserver: ns4.mywebworx.com [69.61.24.9] >--- Found authoritative nameserver: ns4.mywebworx.com >--- Found authoritative nameserver: ns4.mywebworx.com >--- Found authoritative nameserver: ns3.mywebworx.com >--- contacting nameserver: ns3.mywebworx.com [69.61.24.8] >--- Found authoritative nameserver: ns3.mywebworx.com >--- Found authoritative nameserver: ns4.mywebworx.com >--- contacting nameserver: ns4.mywebworx.com [69.61.24.9] >--- Found authoritative nameserver: ns3.mywebworx.com >--- contacting nameserver: ns3.mywebworx.com [69.61.24.8] >--- Found authoritative nameserver: ns4.mywebworx.com >--- contacting nameserver: ns4.mywebworx.com [69.61.24.9] >--- Found authoritative nameserver: ns4.mywebworx.com > >It must look like a DDOS in the logs. > >Better talk to whoever is controlling your DNS. Regards Andy T -- For users by users - BY-users group <http://www.by-users.co.uk><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: DNS

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(Msg. 9) Posted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 8:17 pm Post subject: Re: DNS [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)

On Wed, 1 Oct 2003 07:43:12 -0400 "McWebber" <mcwebber.RemoveThis@my-deja.com> broke off from drinking a cup of tea at to write: >"Andy T" <andy.RemoveThis@westmidland-internet.co.uk> wrote in message >news:r02lnvk6mehlbkpauumpldgq1nv0r5ocv7@4ax.com... >> >> >> what tools or site did you use to perform the look up I cant even get >> that much out of sam spade?? > <font color=purple> >NetDemon <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.netdemon.net/</font" target="_blank">http://www.netdemon.net/</font</a>> > >> >It must look like a DDOS in the logs. >> >> >> Mmm whats a ddos please. Be careful with me I am trying to learn this >> stuff so I can stop asking silly questions > >Distributed Denial Of Service. > That's where, for example, a server receives such a vast quantity of simultaneous or sequential requests that it cannot function. In the case of a web site this may be a loop of thousands of simultaneous requests for a web page, or running a CGI script. The http server overloads and slows down to a crawl. Or if it's a Geocities server, just a mass of requests using up all the bandwidth. Matt -- The Probert Encyclopaedia - Beyond Britannica <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com" target="_blank">http://www.probertencyclopaedia.com</a><!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ --> >> Stay informed about: DNS

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