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fukme

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(Msg. 1) Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:42 pm
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Hello people,

Here is a question that I'm sure some of you can help enlighten me on.

I am planning on creating an e commerce website with lots of functionality,
automation, calculations etc, and I am planning on paying a web designer to
create the site and then I would like to update it myself using dreamweaver.
I have minimal HTML experience and I have very basic dreamweaver skills
that I am still in the process of learning. I'm not wanting to become a web
designer but just to learn enough to make updates and changes to my site
when needed from time to time.

I am trying to decide between cold fusion and PHP for the scripting.

I am leaning towards PHP becasue from what I've been told so far the hosting
generally is much cheaper that cold fusion.

Now my questions is: Is there any benifit to using cold fusion over PHP if
I am using dreamweaver? Will it be easier for me to learn, easier to do
more complex functions or just work better in any way?

Thanks in advance?

Brian

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karim34112

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(Msg. 2) Posted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:42 pm
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On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 18:42:49 GMT, fukme.RemoveThis@aol.com wrote:

 > Hello people,
 >
 > Here is a question that I'm sure some of you can help enlighten me on.
 >
 > I am planning on creating an e commerce website with lots of functionality,
 > automation, calculations etc, and I am planning on paying a web designer to
 > create the site and then I would like to update it myself using dreamweaver.
 > I have minimal HTML experience and I have very basic dreamweaver skills
 > that I am still in the process of learning. I'm not wanting to become a web
 > designer but just to learn enough to make updates and changes to my site
 > when needed from time to time.
 >
 > I am trying to decide between cold fusion and PHP for the scripting.
 >
 > I am leaning towards PHP becasue from what I've been told so far the hosting
 > generally is much cheaper that cold fusion.
 >
 > Now my questions is: Is there any benifit to using cold fusion over PHP if
 > I am using dreamweaver? Will it be easier for me to learn, easier to do
 > more complex functions or just work better in any way?
 >

PHP is cheaper to develop with and host and it has a ton of freebies on the
web. Dreamweaver supports both languages but CF is better (CF and DW are
from the same company).


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davidvb3

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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2004 2:00 pm
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Karim wrote:

 > On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 18:42:49 GMT, fukme.DeleteThis@aol.com wrote:
 >
 >
  >>Hello people,
  >>
  >>Here is a question that I'm sure some of you can help enlighten me on.
  >>
  >>I am planning on creating an e commerce website with lots of functionality,
  >>automation, calculations etc, and I am planning on paying a web designer to
  >>create the site and then I would like to update it myself using dreamweaver.
  >> I have minimal HTML experience and I have very basic dreamweaver skills
  >>that I am still in the process of learning. I'm not wanting to become a web
  >>designer but just to learn enough to make updates and changes to my site
  >>when needed from time to time.
  >>
  >>I am trying to decide between cold fusion and PHP for the scripting.
  >>
  >>I am leaning towards PHP becasue from what I've been told so far the hosting
  >>generally is much cheaper that cold fusion.
  >>
  >>Now my questions is: Is there any benifit to using cold fusion over PHP if
  >>I am using dreamweaver? Will it be easier for me to learn, easier to do
  >>more complex functions or just work better in any way?
  >>
 >
 >
 > PHP is cheaper to develop with and host and it has a ton of freebies on the
 > web. Dreamweaver supports both languages but CF is better (CF and DW are
 > from the same company).

You obviously mean CF support is better in dw.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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davidvb3

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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2004 2:10 pm
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fukme RemoveThis @aol.com wrote:

 > Hello people,
 >
 > Here is a question that I'm sure some of you can help enlighten me on.
 >
 > I am planning on creating an e commerce website with lots of functionality,
 > automation, calculations etc, and I am planning on paying a web designer to
 > create the site and then I would like to update it myself using dreamweaver.
 > I have minimal HTML experience and I have very basic dreamweaver skills
 > that I am still in the process of learning. I'm not wanting to become a web
 > designer but just to learn enough to make updates and changes to my site
 > when needed from time to time.
 >
 > I am trying to decide between cold fusion and PHP for the scripting.
 >
 > I am leaning towards PHP becasue from what I've been told so far the hosting
 > generally is much cheaper that cold fusion.
 >
 > Now my questions is: Is there any benifit to using cold fusion over PHP if
 > I am using dreamweaver? Will it be easier for me to learn, easier to do
 > more complex functions or just work better in any way?
 >
 > Thanks in advance?

If you are going to be getting a webdesigner to do all this coding for
you, you may as well scrap dw and do it properly. I don't know much
about CF to be honest, but I think both of them should be able to create
a content management system, which means that you would only have to
edit the site from a management panel (password protected) on your site.

Most designers won't like you coming along and tearing up their
beautiful site with a WYSIWYG editor anyway.

If you do just go for using dw and the php only covers the shopping
cart, you should talk to him about designing the site so that you don't
have to deal with dw's PHP or CF - in either case dw doesn't do that
crash hot a job, and certainly not as good as a self-respecting programmer.

So... I would get someone to make you a PHP e-commerce site w/ a content
management system to make it easy for you to update content (this also
reduces the inflexibility of requiring dw available to update the site;
all you would need would be an internet connection). Hosting is cheaper
for PHP and you could probably get the job done cheaper. That is the
only real thing that I think you can split the two on. Both work very
differently and I personally like the way PHP works better (I think it
is more robust), but that is irrelevant to your decision.

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(Msg. 5) Posted: Sat Jan 17, 2004 8:08 pm
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"Karim" <karim3411 RemoveThis @yahoo.moc> wrote in message
news:cnlpeat3xqqw.z948hb2hehi7$.dlg@40tude.net...
 > On Fri, 16 Jan 2004 18:42:49 GMT, fukme RemoveThis @aol.com wrote:
 >
  > > Hello people,
  > >
  > > Here is a question that I'm sure some of you can help enlighten me on.
  > >
  > > I am planning on creating an e commerce website with lots of
functionality,
  > > automation, calculations etc, and I am planning on paying a web designer
to
  > > create the site and then I would like to update it myself using
dreamweaver.
  > > I have minimal HTML experience and I have very basic dreamweaver skills
  > > that I am still in the process of learning. I'm not wanting to become a
web
  > > designer but just to learn enough to make updates and changes to my site
  > > when needed from time to time.
  > >
  > > I am trying to decide between cold fusion and PHP for the scripting.
  > >
  > > I am leaning towards PHP becasue from what I've been told so far the
hosting
  > > generally is much cheaper that cold fusion.
  > >
  > > Now my questions is: Is there any benifit to using cold fusion over PHP
if
  > > I am using dreamweaver? Will it be easier for me to learn, easier to do
  > > more complex functions or just work better in any way?
  > >
 >
 > PHP is cheaper to develop with and host and it has a ton of freebies on
the
 > web. Dreamweaver supports both languages but CF is better (CF and DW are
 > from the same company).
 >
Cold Fushion is a language???<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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(Msg. 6) Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 1:17 am
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Bill Logan wrote:
  >>PHP is cheaper to develop with and host and it has a ton of freebies on
  >> the
  >>web. Dreamweaver supports both languages but CF is better (CF and DW are
  >>from the same company).
 > Cold Fushion is a language???

Yes. All the pages you see with ".cfm" extensions are usually ColdFusion
applications. Hmmm, I always tought Allaire came up with ColdFusion, and
not Macromedia...

Regards,

Leon Mergen
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(Msg. 7) Posted: Mon Jan 19, 2004 11:42 am
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Leon Mergen wrote:
 > Bill Logan wrote:
 >
   >>> PHP is cheaper to develop with and host and it has a ton of freebies on
   >>> the
   >>> web. Dreamweaver supports both languages but CF is better (CF and DW are
   >>> from the same company).
  >>
  >> Cold Fushion is a language???
 >
 >
 > Yes. All the pages you see with ".cfm" extensions are usually ColdFusion
 > applications.

Yes, it is a language. However, I can see Bill's point as it is based
around tags, like html, rather than typical progamming

  > Hmmm, I always tought Allaire came up with ColdFusion, and
 > not Macromedia...

They may have, but Macromedia has all of Allaire. You know DW's hand
coding interface - that is Allaire Homesite.<!-- ~MESSAGE_AFTER~ -->
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