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Since: Oct 22, 2003 Posts: 35
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(Msg. 1) Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 5:33 pm
Post subject: ASP ecommerce help Archived from groups: alt>www>webmaster (more info?)
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Hi All
I seem to be getting to grips with the whole ASP DB ecommerce thing, but
there are certain aspects that my knowledge is really thin. If poss, could
you please advise or point me in the right direction re the below:
1) I use the getrows feature all the time now for recordsets rather than
doing a DO ... LOOP recurse of the records.
At present this works great with the data I'm working with, but is there a
possibility that a getrows call can hog resources to the point of the
collapse where a DO .. LOOP recurse will never cause this?
I'm not dealing with thousands of recs/rows, but I'd like to know if it is
the norm for devs to use the getrows over the old recurse.
2) Because I'm checking a cookie on every page of my site, I believe I have
to use the Response.Buffer = true on each page (right??). This seems to be
fine if my server isn't being hogged, but middle of the day and evening
traffic means that as there is a lot of ASP work to be done on my pages then
the Response.Buffer command can sometimes cause timeouts on my pages. Do I
have to use this command when using cookies and if so, whats the best way to
eliminate the timeout issue? I know this is pretty generic question, but I
want to get a feel for how you tackle this.
3) My final question may be more addressed to UK users as it deals with the
aspect of processing orders once they have been received on the secure
server. At the moment, the details are entered via a https page and stored
in a MySQL db, a notification email is sent to the merchant (no ccard
details sent), the merchant retrieves the order from the MySQL db via a
hidden https page, prints the order, processes it on their pdq and then
confirms that the order has been placed. This confirmation obliterates most
of the credit card details in the MySQL DB so that they cannot be retrieved
again.
I know WorldPay and SecureTrading offer a straight to the bank service, but
sometimes the goods might not be able to shipped so the merchant can be
constantly losing out if they have to credit a transaction whereby these
companies still take a % of the original inv and then the credit.
Can somebody advise me or point me in the direction of a forum/newsboard
where like-minded devs are doing this day-in day-out.
Thanks
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Since: Aug 13, 2003 Posts: 257
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(Msg. 2) Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 5:33 pm
Post subject: Re: ASP ecommerce help [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 14:33:51 +0100, Laphan wrote:
> Hi All
>
> I seem to be getting to grips with the whole ASP DB ecommerce thing, but
> there are certain aspects that my knowledge is really thin. If poss, could
> you please advise or point me in the right direction re the below:
>
> 1) I use the getrows feature all the time now for recordsets rather than
> doing a DO ... LOOP recurse of the records.
>
> At present this works great with the data I'm working with, but is there a
> possibility that a getrows call can hog resources to the point of the
> collapse where a DO .. LOOP recurse will never cause this?
>
> I'm not dealing with thousands of recs/rows, but I'd like to know if it is
> the norm for devs to use the getrows over the old recurse.
>
> 2) Because I'm checking a cookie on every page of my site, I believe I have
> to use the Response.Buffer = true on each page (right??). This seems to be
> fine if my server isn't being hogged, but middle of the day and evening
> traffic means that as there is a lot of ASP work to be done on my pages then
> the Response.Buffer command can sometimes cause timeouts on my pages. Do I
> have to use this command when using cookies and if so, whats the best way to
> eliminate the timeout issue? I know this is pretty generic question, but I
> want to get a feel for how you tackle this.
>
> 3) My final question may be more addressed to UK users as it deals with the
> aspect of processing orders once they have been received on the secure
> server. At the moment, the details are entered via a https page and stored
> in a MySQL db, a notification email is sent to the merchant (no ccard
> details sent), the merchant retrieves the order from the MySQL db via a
> hidden https page, prints the order, processes it on their pdq and then
> confirms that the order has been placed. This confirmation obliterates most
> of the credit card details in the MySQL DB so that they cannot be retrieved
> again.
>
> I know WorldPay and SecureTrading offer a straight to the bank service, but
> sometimes the goods might not be able to shipped so the merchant can be
> constantly losing out if they have to credit a transaction whereby these
> companies still take a % of the original inv and then the credit.
>
> Can somebody advise me or point me in the direction of a forum/newsboard
> where like-minded devs are doing this day-in day-out.
You're better off posting this at one of Microsoft's newsgroups where many
helpful ASP experts gather, such as
microsoft.public.inetserver.iis.activeserver. Your news source should
provide it.
Go to <a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.aspin.com" target="_blank">www.aspin.com</a> and check out links to communites.
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Since: Sep 15, 2004 Posts: 193
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(Msg. 3) Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 11:57 pm
Post subject: Re: ASP ecommerce help [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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"Laphan" <news DeleteThis @DoNotEmailMe.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Hi All
>
> I seem to be getting to grips with the whole ASP DB ecommerce thing, but
> there are certain aspects that my knowledge is really thin. If poss,
could
> you please advise or point me in the right direction re the below:
>
> 1) I use the getrows feature all the time now for recordsets rather than
> doing a DO ... LOOP recurse of the records.
> At present this works great with the data I'm working with, but is there a
> possibility that a getrows call can hog resources to the point of the
> collapse where a DO .. LOOP recurse will never cause this?
>
> I'm not dealing with thousands of recs/rows, but I'd like to know if it is
> the norm for devs to use the getrows over the old recurse.
Dunno - I have always used Dreamweaver to write that aspect of the code....
good luck with that question ...
> 2) Because I'm checking a cookie on every page of my site, I believe I
have
> to use the Response.Buffer = true on each page (right??). This seems to
be
> fine if my server isn't being hogged, but middle of the day and evening
> traffic means that as there is a lot of ASP work to be done on my pages
then
> the Response.Buffer command can sometimes cause timeouts on my pages. Do
I
> have to use this command when using cookies and if so, whats the best way
to
> eliminate the timeout issue? I know this is pretty generic question, but
I
> want to get a feel for how you tackle this.
No...
response.buffer is not necessary, this is for a different function, drop
it... it shouldn't however cause timeouts unless there is a problem with the
page!
>
> 3) My final question may be more addressed to UK users as it deals with
the
> aspect of processing orders once they have been received on the secure
> server. At the moment, the details are entered via a https page and
stored
> in a MySQL db, a notification email is sent to the merchant (no ccard
> details sent), the merchant retrieves the order from the MySQL db via a
> hidden https page, prints the order, processes it on their pdq and then
> confirms that the order has been placed. This confirmation obliterates
most
> of the credit card details in the MySQL DB so that they cannot be
retrieved
> again.
>
Somehow that sounds wrong, and well ... insecure... I am sure it is better
than you have phrased it...
As for WorldPay, you can do something called a Pre Auth, where the payment
is NOT processed unless you have OK'd it ...
I haven't configured WorldPay in a while so I can't recall exactly how to do
it ... I think other PSPs allow you to do this...
HTH's
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Since: Sep 14, 2004 Posts: 588
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(Msg. 4) Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2004 12:58 am
Post subject: Re: ASP ecommerce help [Login to view extended thread Info.] Archived from groups: per prev. post (more info?)
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Laphan wrote:
> ...
> 1) I use the getrows feature all the time now for recordsets rather
> than doing a DO ... LOOP recurse of the records.
received wisdom still indicates this to be the best method of conserving
server resources
> At present this works great with the data I'm working with, but is
> there a possibility that a getrows call can hog resources to the point
> of the collapse where a DO .. LOOP recurse will never cause this?
Don't think so - unless you are talking about very large result sets when
you should really be looking at a redesign of your app. Even so you would
have to introduce artificial delays into your processing which defeats the
object of the excercise.
> I'm not dealing with thousands of recs/rows, but I'd like to know if
> it is the norm for devs to use the getrows over the old recurse.
Unfortunately the norm is to use MoveNext - getrows is better.
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Since: Oct 22, 2003 Posts: 35
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(Msg. 5) Posted: Tue Sep 07, 2004 10:47 pm
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Thanks Guys
William Tasso <SpamBlocked.DeleteThis@tbdata.com> wrote in message
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Laphan wrote:
> ...
> 1) I use the getrows feature all the time now for recordsets rather
> than doing a DO ... LOOP recurse of the records.
received wisdom still indicates this to be the best method of conserving
server resources
> At present this works great with the data I'm working with, but is
> there a possibility that a getrows call can hog resources to the point
> of the collapse where a DO .. LOOP recurse will never cause this?
Don't think so - unless you are talking about very large result sets when
you should really be looking at a redesign of your app. Even so you would
have to introduce artificial delays into your processing which defeats the
object of the excercise.
> I'm not dealing with thousands of recs/rows, but I'd like to know if
> it is the norm for devs to use the getrows over the old recurse.
Unfortunately the norm is to use MoveNext - getrows is better.
--
William Tasso - read 'em, else the puppy gets it:
<a style='text-decoration: underline;' href="http://www.aww-faq.org/" target="_blank">http://www.aww-faq.org/</a>
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